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[JCRendle]

I wonder if they shot any scenes for Bond 24 whilst filming the final scenes for Skyfall...

[Hockey Mask]

The other site remarks that Anderson Cooper confirmed on 60 Minutes that BOND 24 is in pre-production. However, I see nothing to that effect in the show's transcript. Can anyone who saw the programme confirm or deny this?

I don't remember hearing that but I have it recorded and will check it out again.

[SecretAgentFan]

Cooper just wanted to get some attention.

Just as some fansite claiming today that EON wants to have Bond go to India as soon as possible...

Geez, of course, EON is already thinking about BOND 24. But nothing is set in stone right now. SKYFALL is their main interest at this moment.

Next year they will start planning the next chapter, looking at script ideas, possible directors, locations and so on. If you want to call this pre-production, then EON is constantly in pre-production of the next film.

[QOS4EVER]

I doubt India will work.They tried so hard to get the train PTS sequence in India and see how that ended up all because of the ministers seems they wanted Daniel Craig to advertise Indian railways and also they had a problem with making people sit on top of the train which is common sight in India

[Pussfeller]

They could always film it in Wales and say it's India.

[DamnCoffee]

Well it has worked so many times for Doctor Who.

[Vauxhall]

They could always film it in Wales and say it's India.

Quite. Let's not forget how convincing Wales and Cornwall were as the Korean coast in DIE ANOTHER DAY...

[QOS4EVER]

Well I haven't been to the UK , but you are actually sugesting that wales can be made to look like India.Is it that dirty ?
Wow!

Anyone remember the deleted extended bathroom scene from CR that was supposed to depict Pakistan but did not look like that from any angle.

[Major Tallon]

The other site remarks that Anderson Cooper confirmed on 60 Minutes that BOND 24 is in pre-production. However, I see nothing to that effect in the show's transcript. Can anyone who saw the programme confirm or deny this?

I don't remember hearing that but I have it recorded and will check it out again.

Barbara Broccoli said something to the effect of, "As long as audiences want to keep seeing them, we'll keep making them." It's over-reading that remark considerably to view it as confirmation that pre-production for the next film is currently under way.

[L4YRCAKE]

They've been on record for at least a few months now if not longer saying they'd already begun work on the Bond 24 script. I would not be surprised in the least if they announce the title of the next Bond film at the end of Skyfall. Just sayin'...

[univex]

They've been on record for at least a few months now if not longer saying they'd already begun work on the Bond 24 script. I would not be surprised in the least if they announce the title of the next Bond film at the end of Skyfall. Just sayin'...

Shatterhand!

One can wish...

[Satorious]

I just hope that if the script/film is as good as people say it is, that John Logan returns for Bond 24 scripting duties...

[L4YRCAKE]

They've been on record for at least a few months now if not longer saying they'd already begun work on the Bond 24 script. I would not be surprised in the least if they announce the title of the next Bond film at the end of Skyfall. Just sayin'...

Shatterhand!

One can wish...

Risico!

I'd love to see them use Shatterhand as the title of the third film of a Blofeld trilogy...

[AgentBentley]

I don't want to wait 4 years until the next Bond movie, but I don't want to go over the top in hurrying up either. Give a new Bond time to 'breathe,' work on a decent script and don't make it a cut-and-paste job from leftovers from previous films.

[SecretAgentFan]

If I may say so: to have more time to write a script is not a bad thing.

But you certainly don´t need years.

If they have a first draft within the next months and a director on board (who knows what he wants), then it is absolutely no problem to deliver the next film in 2014.

I like QOS. Yet, I do see its weaknesses. But taking them as an example for too little time for development of the script is absurd.

As Haggis stated: they had a script ready but when Forster came on board they threw it all out. I guess that was in August 2007. Bad call, especially with the upcoming writers´ strike.

I do like Forster´s work on QOS, don´t get me wrong.

But judging from his other movies I do get the feeling that script development is not his strong suit. He is a director who has wonderful visual ideas. But he´s probably one of those who frustrate writers by saying: that´s not what I want - but I don´t know what I want, surprise me.

So, 2014 - possible? Yes. Absolutely.

[Pussfeller]

I quite agree. The more I learn about the production of QOS, the more its troubles seem completely self-inflicted, and the more Forster seems to have done the inflicting. I hope Eon remembers how well he worked out the next time they're tempted to hire a precious artiste.

[SecretAgentFan]

I guess the impulse was right, just to further establish that the new Bond era is open to experiments, listening to directors who never would have touched a Bond film in previous years.

But the timing made it extremely difficult for everybody involved. And without the writers´ strike, who knows? Everything could have turned out much better.

[Pussfeller]

It just makes me worry that the producers give too much leeway to their directors, not even intervening to prevent something totally mercurial and boneheaded, like tearing up the script at the eleventh hour. When they luck out on the director, the results are great. But it's a big gamble, and seems a rather carefree way to pilot such a huge ship as the Bond franchise.

[Dustin]

As far as QOS's shortcomings are concerned here I think the outcome is nowhere near as 'artsy' as the involvement of Forster would suggest. For my money the opening and the Bregenz scenes are the only ones truly sticking out, the rest is a fairly common action fest without much to distinguish it from lesser, cheaper, more ordinary productions. And what's the use having an 'art house' director when the result doesn't show the effort?

[SecretAgentFan]

Also, I believe that EON have a pretty tight grip on the outcome. They don´t stand aside and let the auteur do his thing. They invite him to share his vision and then craft the result together. Without EON guiding Forster, QOS certainly would have looked differently.

[thecasinoroyale]

Glad to hear pre-production work has started on Bond 24. If the current cast and crew can stick together as best they can, like the golden era of Bond films, I'll be happy.

And if Sam Mendes returns, so much the better as I always like the films that you can just tell have been made by the same team thinking on the same page rather than everyone is a different take on the character with bold new takes. It's like a guest director having a pop. If Mendes works, keep him on PLEASE for Bond 24 and jeex, even Bond 25, for a solid flow of character and setting.

[SecretAgentFan]

I believe it won´t be EON´s fault if Mendes does not return for BOND 24. Mendes has already said that at this point he feels he has given SKYFALL everything he can. Maybe later on he will return, possibly for Craig´s last one or the first film with a new Bond actor.

The thing is: directors like Mendes don´t want to be tied to one franchise for too long. Heck, even Martin Campbell did not want to return for consecutive Bonds.

And let´s face it: SKYFALL seems to be a huge artistic success. To direct the next film will always invite comparisons: Hey, the former film was so much better. So it´s a difficult and dangerous situation for a director. I guess that´s why Campbell turned down TND and QOS. He succeeded with GOLDENEYE and CASINO ROYALE and wanted to ride that wave.

Also, I think it´s good for Bond to mix things up from film to film.

[BluffersBond]

Any ideas on what story they'll base the 24th Bond film on? There's 'Risico', 'The Hildebrand Rarity', and 'The Property of a Lady' left (they're all written by Fleming but they're all also only short stories and bits of them have already been lifted and used in previous films!

Maybe they'll move on to the post-Fleming era books, the Bond legacy has been bolstered by authors like Kingsley Amis and William Boyd etc.

Read a sample of the Bluffer's Guide to Bond at http://bit.ly/RW8h58

[Peckinpah1976]

I guess the impulse was right, just to further establish that the new Bond era is open to experiments, listening to directors who never would have touched a Bond film in previous years.

But the timing made it extremely difficult for everybody involved. And without the writers´ strike, who knows? Everything could have turned out much better.

Throwing the script out in light of the writer's strike may seem like a bad move but who's to say that Foster's concerns weren't well founded? Especially as his previous films are strong on story as well as visuals, I don't think his instincts should necessarily be dismissed. Also, Haggis's contributions to CR were fairly limited and largely superficial and his non-Bond work pretty mediocre IMO so it's difficult to say what an original Bond screenplay by him would actually have looked like. We already know about his Vesper's child ideas...

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, this is ALL speculation, of course. Everything we know we know from second hand or third or fourth. Haggis´ "Vesper´s child"-idea was also never confirmed without a doubt.

And concerning Foster - I´m just saying: there are lots of directors who don´t know what they want but are quick to dismiss a script. Not because of instinct but ego.

And for me, Foster´s previous films did not shine because of their perfect story. He´s great with visuals and atmosphere. Something QOS excelled at.

[QuantumOfRoyale]

Well, this is ALL speculation, of course. Everything we know we know from second hand or third or fourth. Haggis´ "Vesper´s child"-idea was also never confirmed without a doubt.

And concerning Foster - I´m just saying: there are lots of directors who don´t know what they want but are quick to dismiss a script. Not because of instinct but ego.

And for me, Foster´s previous films did not shine because of their perfect story. He´s great with visuals and atmosphere. Something QOS excelled at.

Agreed. The Tosca shootout is the best scene in the film, and arguably one of my favorite sequences of the entire series.

[Peckinpah1976]

And for me, Foster´s previous films did not shine because of their perfect story. He´s great with visuals and atmosphere. Something QOS excelled at.

I agree absolutely re his strengths (I'm major QOS apologist for the very reasons you state) but to me he doesn't seem to approach films strictly as a visual stylist in a Kubrick / Ridley Scott type of way but is drawn to strong human stories which to me would suggest that he does have a feel and appreciation for narrative.

Edited by Peckinpah1976, 24 October 2012 - 12:27 PM.

[FOX MULDER]

Personally, I think 2014 is too soon for Bond 24.

Two years' to make a Bond film seems to me a little rushed, when you consider what goes into one. Back in the day they had the advantage of using the already-written Fleming stories.

2015 sounds good to me.

[SecretAgentFan]

Back in the day they had the advantage of using the already-written Fleming stories.

... and re-writing or ignoring them without any problems in order to release films in a two-year-rhythm.

[Redneck007]

I really want to see Sam Mendes return but if not I would like to see Matthew Vaughn (X-Men: First Class, Layer Cake) get a crack. I loved X-Men: First Class and it's 60s spy feel. Previously working with Craig on Layer Cake is a bonus.

Edited by Redneck007, 24 October 2012 - 12:52 PM.