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[Messervy]

Agreed. I wonder if Mendes is lined up to direct the next one as well. Oh just imagine if we got a JAMES BOND WILL BE BACK IN at the end of Skyfall. One can only hope.

What I would love is to see "The end of Skyfall. James Bond will return in xxx" with the name of the 24th film. Just like in the old days ...

[S K Y F A L L]

God, you've never had such an over-rated director than Quentin Tarantino. A few of his films are ok-ish, others are just rubbish on face value.
If here were attatched to a Bond, I wouldn't be a happy chap. And his idea of 'Casino Royale'...mm, not for me. Or anyone else wanting a decent Bond film!
Rant over!

I also agree. Tarantino would ruin a Bond film by turning it into one of his films and not a Bond film. I could see him using the chapter titles from the Casino Royale novel and doing the title sequence as a cartoon.

I think that some of the trajectory of BOND 24 may well be dictated by whatever happens in SKYFALL. That's not to say I think it will end up being a sequel per se, but I imagine there will be some points which need following up on.

I think that some of the trajectory of BOND 24 may well be dictated by whatever happens in SKYFALL. That's not to say I think it will end up being a sequel per se, but I imagine there will be some points which need following up on.

(...) The big question is whether Blofeld, and for that matter, SPECTRE, are back in this film, if so then there will probably be a common thread with all or most of the Craig films. (...) Tiffany Case left Bond for a banker and he was very bitter about it in the novels, for example.

I would think the story for Bond 24 is already being worked on and it may be slightly based on a few minor details from SF.
I always loved the references about pervious films like in the Connery Era, "They got a lot closer to me in Jamaica didn't they?"
It really felt it like was a series of films. After the Connery Era it was only TSWLM, FYEO and LTK, that referenced anything we know about Bond which happened in the previsous films, if I rememer correctly. Would be nice if each film was able to have a reference to the last film, maybe during M's briefing.

Agreed. I wonder if Mendes is lined up to direct the next one as well. Oh just imagine if we got a JAMES BOND WILL BE BACK IN at the end of Skyfall. One can only hope.

What I would love is to see "The end of Skyfall. James Bond will return in xxx" with the name of the 24th film. Just like in the old days ...

Would be a sweet ending to SF after the 4 years since QOS and the Bond 24 relaese date of 2014 was announced. Also its free advertising for the next film, isn't it?

[Harmsway]

Well, there's no terribly good reason why they couldn't give us the title at the end of SKYFALL. It's not as though Bond titles tend to have definite implications for the stories they tell; they tend to be rather abstract and lend themsleves to more or less whatever the producers felt the next film should end up looking like (indeed, it seems that back when they actually did give the title of the next installment during the end credits, the producers had only vague ideas as to what the next installment would look like). That said, I doubt we'll get that, as much as I'd very much like to see it.

[Matt_13]

One of the soundbites released today has Craig and Barbara Broccoli stating that no other film is currently in the works and that the Sony exec got a bit excited. I seriously doubt we'll get anything.

[S K Y F A L L]

Dammit Sony! I hope this Sony executive gets canned if the deadline isn't met.

[L4YRCAKE]

Well, there's no terribly good reason why they couldn't give us the title at the end of SKYFALL. It's not as though Bond titles tend to have definite implications for the stories they tell; they tend to be rather abstract and lend themsleves to more or less whatever the producers felt the next film should end up looking like (indeed, it seems that back when they actually did give the title of the next installment during the end credits, the producers had only vague ideas as to what the next installment would look like). That said, I doubt we'll get that, as much as I'd very much like to see it.

Not that anyone asked for it but here's my 2 cents about the announcement of the next film at the end of Skyfall:

As much as it'd be fun I think it's doubtful they'll announce a title for the 2014 sequel at the end, but entirely likely they may say something like, "James Bond will return in 2014" since that's very much a Bond tradition. The reason it was easier years ago is because they had just begun to use Fleming's titles, which with a few notable exceptions are pretty much all used up. So in other words, it was easy to say, 'James Bond will be back in Thunderball' because it was a premade title with a basic plot everyone who'd read the books was already familiar with, and if they strayed far away from the plot of the book, well, that happened a lot, often times the movie ended up having very little to do with either the title or the book it was very loosely based on.

They also mistakenly announced the wrong film at least once, didn't they say at the end of Thunderball that Bond would be back in On Her Majesty's Secret Service? Nobody cared back then but I think it'd be a major gaffe now. I think everyone involved with Skyfall is pretty sure it'll be a massive hit, but until that's a fact I think they'll wait before they solidify their ideas with his future. I'm sure they're already writing the next script, or at least nailing down ideas, and who know, maybe I'm totally wrong, maybe they've already got the next Bond film down so well that they'll be able to announce a title with confidence. I'd be the first to cheer if that happens, honestly.

And on that note, I think 'Risico' and 'Property Of A Lady' are remaining Fleming titles that Mr. Craig should grab at some point, especially if they decide to make a trilogy ala the Blofeld trilogy, which I think they should loosely redo and do it up properly, those three books (Thunderball, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and You Only Live Twice) are phenomenal stories, especially the last. I also fully expect that they'll make some sort of Bond in the USA story, but I think the title 'Bond In New York' just doesn't quite work...

[zencat]

One of the soundbites released today has Craig and Barbara Broccoli stating that no other film is currently in the works and that the Sony exec got a bit excited. I seriously doubt we'll get anything.

Exactly. Sony would like another Bond in 2014, but if it doesn't come from Eon, it ain't confirmed. We know this.

[Dustin]

One of the soundbites released today has Craig and Barbara Broccoli stating that no other film is currently in the works and that the Sony exec got a bit excited. I seriously doubt we'll get anything.

Exactly. Sony would like another Bond in 2014, but if it doesn't come from Eon, it ain't confirmed. We know this.

I actually fail to see why it should be such a big thing if BOND 24 takes three (or two and a half) instead of two years. These productions are huge projects calling for an awful lot of planning and organisation, and not a little creative effort on top. What's so terrible if 2014 doesn't see BOND 24? I for one am much more interested in a film that has had a decent production phase instead of a hurried result that's just there to meet a two year cycle. A time limit that's not exactly a realistic deadline any more if you don't have an army of people working 24/7 on it.

[Peckinpah1976]

I agree TheCasinoRoyale and SecretAgentFan, I saw Inglorious Basterds thinking it was going to be a hard edge WWII action/revenge film. What I got was lots of uninteresting characters, dragged on dialogue, and short lived action scenes in a 140 minute time frame. The fact the film changed history a bit was a slap in the face for me. The fact it got an Oscar nomination is big WOW.

Death Proof was his 2nd part of the Rodriguez/Tarantino Grindhouse film and was it like all his other films (need I share as SecretAgentFan nailed it) There's a reason why I own only Planet Terror of Grindhouse and not Death Proof. Yeah I love Kurt Russell and I do think Mary Elizabeth Winstead is very attractive, but it's not enough for me to even care about the film.

Both Kill Bill films were just rip offs of Kung-Fu Samurai films. Jackie Brown was a good movie, His last good film, but as I said, It was an adaption and not an original story, therefore making Pulp Fiction his original film, but once again he didn't do all of it, he had help with Roger Avery. Reservoir Dogs is a great film no doubt, once again he had help with Roger Avery. The central idea in Reservoir Dogs which is the bank robbery gone wrong was an Idea Tarantino used from career criminal/screenwriter/actor Eddie Bunker. Bunker had a small part in the film as Mr. Blue. He's been in other films and was the screenwriter of the film Runaway Train and even gave Danny Trejo his first big break in the industry with a small part in Runaway Train.

Bunker told Tarantino about a bank job he did that went wrong and the backstory to it all and how it landed him back in prison and whatnot. So Tarantino used it and wrote a script based on Bunker's story. What did he do? Gave him a small little role into the film and Story or screenwriting credit.

Is there anything original about this man? Oh, and his new film Django Unchained.

Calling Tarantino unoriginal is like pointing out that the Pope is Catholic. As a fan of obscure B-Movies and genre films I loved Kill Bill, Death Proof and Inglorious Basterds precisely because he riffs on other peoples ideas; anyone who expected the latter film to be a straight-forward WWII actioner, clearly doesn't understand what the man does and has fairly unambitious expectations of cinema.

I'd be interested to see what he could make of Bond but not as a part of the current series and only if and when it's ceased to be.

[Dustin]

I agree TheCasinoRoyale and SecretAgentFan, I saw Inglorious Basterds thinking it was going to be a hard edge WWII action/revenge film. What I got was lots of uninteresting characters, dragged on dialogue, and short lived action scenes in a 140 minute time frame. The fact the film changed history a bit was a slap in the face for me. The fact it got an Oscar nomination is big WOW.

Death Proof was his 2nd part of the Rodriguez/Tarantino Grindhouse film and was it like all his other films (need I share as SecretAgentFan nailed it) There's a reason why I own only Planet Terror of Grindhouse and not Death Proof. Yeah I love Kurt Russell and I do think Mary Elizabeth Winstead is very attractive, but it's not enough for me to even care about the film.

Both Kill Bill films were just rip offs of Kung-Fu Samurai films. Jackie Brown was a good movie, His last good film, but as I said, It was an adaption and not an original story, therefore making Pulp Fiction his original film, but once again he didn't do all of it, he had help with Roger Avery. Reservoir Dogs is a great film no doubt, once again he had help with Roger Avery. The central idea in Reservoir Dogs which is the bank robbery gone wrong was an Idea Tarantino used from career criminal/screenwriter/actor Eddie Bunker. Bunker had a small part in the film as Mr. Blue. He's been in other films and was the screenwriter of the film Runaway Train and even gave Danny Trejo his first big break in the industry with a small part in Runaway Train.

Bunker told Tarantino about a bank job he did that went wrong and the backstory to it all and how it landed him back in prison and whatnot. So Tarantino used it and wrote a script based on Bunker's story. What did he do? Gave him a small little role into the film and Story or screenwriting credit.

Is there anything original about this man? Oh, and his new film Django Unchained.

Calling Tarantino unoriginal is like pointing out that the Pope is Catholic. As a fan of obscure B-Movies and genre films I loved Kill Bill, Death Proof and Inglorious Basterds precisely because he riffs on other peoples ideas; anyone who expected the latter film to be a straight-forward WWII actioner, clearly doesn't understand what the man does and has fairly unambitious expectations of cinema.

I'd be interested to see what he could make of Bond but not as a part of the current series and only if and when it's ceased to be.

You mean as a one-off outside the series' continuity, like DC/MARVEL do every once in a while with their established stuff? I'm not sure it would turn out to be that interesting in the end. Given the choice Tarantino usually tends to spin his material into farce. That can be entertaining, up to a point, but it can just as easily turn sour and I don't think it would work particularly well with Bond. I think stuff like Mickey Spillane, THE EXECUTIONER or SOLO FOR UNCLE would be better fitted to Tarantino's talents. I used to think he could have a go at MATT HELM, but today I'd rather see somebody else give Helm a go (if it ever happens, which is not a sure bet).

[x007AceOfSpades]

I agree TheCasinoRoyale and SecretAgentFan, I saw Inglorious Basterds thinking it was going to be a hard edge WWII action/revenge film. What I got was lots of uninteresting characters, dragged on dialogue, and short lived action scenes in a 140 minute time frame. The fact the film changed history a bit was a slap in the face for me. The fact it got an Oscar nomination is big WOW.

Death Proof was his 2nd part of the Rodriguez/Tarantino Grindhouse film and was it like all his other films (need I share as SecretAgentFan nailed it) There's a reason why I own only Planet Terror of Grindhouse and not Death Proof. Yeah I love Kurt Russell and I do think Mary Elizabeth Winstead is very attractive, but it's not enough for me to even care about the film.

Both Kill Bill films were just rip offs of Kung-Fu Samurai films. Jackie Brown was a good movie, His last good film, but as I said, It was an adaption and not an original story, therefore making Pulp Fiction his original film, but once again he didn't do all of it, he had help with Roger Avery. Reservoir Dogs is a great film no doubt, once again he had help with Roger Avery. The central idea in Reservoir Dogs which is the bank robbery gone wrong was an Idea Tarantino used from career criminal/screenwriter/actor Eddie Bunker. Bunker had a small part in the film as Mr. Blue. He's been in other films and was the screenwriter of the film Runaway Train and even gave Danny Trejo his first big break in the industry with a small part in Runaway Train.

Bunker told Tarantino about a bank job he did that went wrong and the backstory to it all and how it landed him back in prison and whatnot. So Tarantino used it and wrote a script based on Bunker's story. What did he do? Gave him a small little role into the film and Story or screenwriting credit.

Is there anything original about this man? Oh, and his new film Django Unchained.

Calling Tarantino unoriginal is like pointing out that the Pope is Catholic. As a fan of obscure B-Movies and genre films I loved Kill Bill, Death Proof and Inglorious Basterds precisely because he riffs on other peoples ideas; anyone who expected the latter film to be a straight-forward WWII actioner, clearly doesn't understand what the man does and has fairly unambitious expectations of cinema.

I'd be interested to see what he could make of Bond but not as a part of the current series and only if and when it's ceased to be.

Exactly, He has to take on others Ideas to make his film. He isn't original and yes I am saying this. He is not one of the greatest directors around. Inglorious Basterds name isn't even original, He seemingly "borrowed" it from an old exploration film called inglorious Bastards. If you've seen the original trailer for Inglorious Basterds, the film clearly looks as if it's mainly an action piece. Several of my film class buddies said the same thing too.

Oh and by the way, I clearly do understand what the man does and I have a fairly ambitious expectation of cinema Because If I didn't, then Why haven't I dropped film class and research on older film and whatnot?

[S K Y F A L L]

I think most people simply look at Tarantino films as part of his franchise, series, career, etc. He and his fans count his films and they are his films, Bond wouldn't belong in them. I also thought Inglorious Basterds was going to be an all out action film when I seen the trailer.
Bond 24 in 2014?
If Criag is set to start filming The Girl Who Played With Fire by the start of 2013 and it happens, why couldn't they start to film Bond 24 in Nov of 2013 for a Nov 2014 release, as they did with Skyfall (So long as they don't film the of sequel to The Girl Who Played With Fire back to back)?
What are the writers doing now? Are they still writing Skyfall? Why couldn't they be writing for Bond 24 right now?

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 06 May 2012 - 08:45 PM.

[Germanlady]

Nobody said, 24 isn't coming out in 14. They are just not ready to confirm anything. I say, its not the least Daniel himself, who wants to see the outcome of Skyfall first before committing to the next. If SF is the success we hope for, he will be on board and most likely they will make an effort for 14.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I think most people simply look at Tarantino films as part of his franchise, series, career, etc. He and his fans count his films and they are his films, Bond wouldn't belong in them. I also thought Inglorious Basterds was going to be an all out action film when I seen the trailer.
Bond 24 in 2014?
If Criag is set to start filming The Girl Who Played With Fire by the start of 2013 and it happens, why couldn't they start to film Bond 24 in Nov of 2013 for a Nov 2014 release, as they did with Skyfall (So long as they don't film the of sequel to The Girl Who Played With Fire back to back)?
What are the writers doing now? Are they still writing Skyfall? Why couldn't they be writing for Bond 24 right now?

Glad to know I'm not alone on the Inglorious Basterds issue as well regarding the film and the trailer haha.

Rooney Mara said that filming for The Girl Who Played With Fire is to begin filming this fall with or without David Fincher. If that is the case then once it's done Daniel will jump back to Bond. Sony did state that they wanted to try and film The Girl Who Played With Fire and The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest back-to-back.

Who knows, we'll find out more throughout the Summer movie Season and towards the end of the year.

[DaveBond21]

Great to hear. I think the Bond movies survive because of the occasional 3 or 4 year break but as a Bond fan, it's always good to have another movie to look forward to.

I hope November 2014 turns out to be official.

[echo]

I think that some of the trajectory of BOND 24 may well be dictated by whatever happens in SKYFALL. That's not to say I think it will end up being a sequel per se, but I imagine there will be some points which need following up on.

I both agree and disagree. It seems that in all non-Craig Bond films the continuity reset button got punched immediately following every film. There were vague references to other films but they were enigmatic usually, as in Roger Moore's mention of Tracy in The Spy Who Loved Me.

The big question is whether Blofeld, and for that matter, SPECTRE, are back in this film, if so then there will probably be a common thread with all or most of the Craig films. Sort of like how X-Files balanced its monster of the week with the ongoing ufo/government conspiracy storyline. With that said, I think Skyfall will be its own film, and 24 won't be a sequel per se. I think a lot's riding on this one to solidify Bond again after the bad rap Quantum Of Solace got. If it's a huge success I could see the films start to tread even closer to the Fleming novels, as many of the novels ended on a cliffhanger that led into the next story, and the women didn't just magically disappear in order to make room for the next one. Tiffany Case left Bond for a banker and he was very bitter about it in the novels, for example.

I love the cliffhangers in the books, and wish that they would incorporate them more. Every indication so far has been that Skyfall is a standalone, but who knows? There is that very odd John Logan "Bond should always fight Blofeld" quote, but that feels like misdirection.

The real question for me is whether Bond 24 will go back to Quantum. It definitely has not been resolved and M seemed really alarmed by the organization at the beginning of QoS, but maybe the producers would figure it's been eight years and let it go...

[S K Y F A L L]

I wonder how much was not used in SF will make it into Bond 24.

[vauxhall213]

Woop! This is good news. I wonder how many more films Daniel Craig will do. I'm currently loving this though - a print you can buy for the 50th anniversary. Not sure who else I would put in this line up! Great collectors item though.

[JimmyBond]

Welcome to the board. There are threads elsewhere that explain this, but Craig is signed on for two more films after Skyfall. Putting his total at five, assuming he doesn't do anymore films after that.

[Iceskater101]

Agreed. I wonder if Mendes is lined up to direct the next one as well. Oh just imagine if we got a JAMES BOND WILL BE BACK IN at the end of Skyfall. One can only hope.

What I would love is to see "The end of Skyfall. James Bond will return in xxx" with the name of the 24th film. Just like in the old days ...

That would be so cool, not going to lie. They already have the name picked out and it somehow didn't leak to the press and you watch the credits and it says the name of the next Bond film. That would be amazing.

[Pussfeller]

Yes, that would be a wonderful return to tradition. But I'm afraid the producers will probably never again reveal a title so far in advance, even if they had one in mind, because it would deprive them of a surprise to reveal later. The announcement of the title is one of the first big revelations in the life cycle of a Bond film, and the subject of a lot of media speculation and free advertising. If they announced the title way in advance, there would be one less thing for fans to speculate about and media sites to publish rumors about.

[SecretAgentFan]

Also, they might just have no idea...

[Mr. Arlington Beech]

Well, there's no terribly good reason why they couldn't give us the title at the end of SKYFALL. It's not as though Bond titles tend to have definite implications for the stories they tell; they tend to be rather abstract and lend themsleves to more or less whatever the producers felt the next film should end up looking like (indeed, it seems that back when they actually did give the title of the next installment during the end credits, the producers had only vague ideas as to what the next installment would look like). That said, I doubt we'll get that, as much as I'd very much like to see it.

Not that anyone asked for it but here's my 2 cents about the announcement of the next film at the end of Skyfall:

As much as it'd be fun I think it's doubtful they'll announce a title for the 2014 sequel at the end, but entirely likely they may say something like, "James Bond will return in 2014" since that's very much a Bond tradition. The reason it was easier years ago is because they had just begun to use Fleming's titles, which with a few notable exceptions are pretty much all used up. So in other words, it was easy to say, 'James Bond will be back in Thunderball' because it was a premade title with a basic plot everyone who'd read the books was already familiar with, and if they strayed far away from the plot of the book, well, that happened a lot, often times the movie ended up having very little to do with either the title or the book it was very loosely based on.

They also mistakenly announced the wrong film at least once, didn't they say at the end of Thunderball that Bond would be back in On Her Majesty's Secret Service? Nobody cared back then but I think it'd be a major gaffe now. I think everyone involved with Skyfall is pretty sure it'll be a massive hit, but until that's a fact I think they'll wait before they solidify their ideas with his future. I'm sure they're already writing the next script, or at least nailing down ideas, and who know, maybe I'm totally wrong, maybe they've already got the next Bond film down so well that they'll be able to announce a title with confidence. I'd be the first to cheer if that happens, honestly.

And on that note, I think 'Risico' and 'Property Of A Lady' are remaining Fleming titles that Mr. Craig should grab at some point, especially if they decide to make a trilogy ala the Blofeld trilogy, which I think they should loosely redo and do it up properly, those three books (Thunderball, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and You Only Live Twice) are phenomenal stories, especially the last. I also fully expect that they'll make some sort of Bond in the USA story, but I think the title 'Bond In New York' just doesn't quite work...

First of all, it was in TSWLM when they announced at the end, a title for the next film ("For Your Eyes Only"), but they went for another MR, in GF they made a print with "James Bond will return in On Her Majesty's Secret Service" but they change it at the last minute.

The other thing is (besides that the correct Fleming title is "007 in New York" and not "Bond in New York") that I don't think it would be a good idea at all a story where Bond spend most of his time in USA, imo everytime 007 goes to that country the story seems to drag- especially if there's an addition of an american Bond girl-, actually I think only a chapter in New York could be a exception.

[jorgem]

Bond 24 should take place in Russia and Australia. How many times did Bond visited Russia? Bond hasn't been to Australia yet.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Bond hasn't been to Australia yet.

Nor Canada or Nordic Countries (Norway,Sweden,Finland) - it would be great to see Craig on skis. Of course Bond could visit both Australia and someplace arctic during the same adventure.

[Vauxhall]

How many times did Bond visited Russia?

Scenes involving Bond were set in Russia in A VIEW TO A KILL, GOLDENEYE and QUANTUM OF SOLACE in the films. Admittedly the scenes were filmed in Aldershot for the latter...

[DaveBond21]

Aldershot looks more like Cold War Russia than anywhere in Russia.....




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[Vauxhall]

Aldershot looks more like Cold War Russia than anywhere in Russia.....

Haha - a fair point!

[QOS4EVER]

It would be nice to see Bond in Dubai like in mission impossible 4,Ultra Modern Beautifully lit (*cough*Unlike the bright neon lights of shanghai *cough*)city with huge skyscraper's, would love that for a change

[SecretAgentFan]

Please no Dubai (too soon!), please no Russia (again, after "Goldeneye" and next year´s "Die Hard 5").

Australia, yes!

Africa!

Vietnam!

Alaska!

Hawaii!