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[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

As many people have mentioned Craig isn't ageing gracefully.

Craig looked "old" when he was young and with the facial features he has he will age much more gracefully than Sir Roger.
But yes, 2014 please. If the basic story idea is set (like it has been reported) there is no reason to delay the film to 2015. How long does it take to write a script anyway if the plot is thought out? A month for the first draft? Who knows, Logan could have first draft of Bond 24 in shape by January 2013.

[EyesOnly]

Not entirely sure how you come to that conclusion. Moore was 45 when he started Live and Let Die. He looked MUCH younger than Craig does now. There is no doubt Craig has aged, and since 2006 he looks every bit the 44 year old that he is. I'm not saying he's aging like Clint Eastwood, but he won't age like Connery who I feel aged gracefully.

[L4YRCAKE]

I love how craggy Daniel Craig looks, it's been long coming for Bond. I think the whole pretty boy image of Bond has needed to be jettisoned for years now along with the notion that Bond should never be older than 37. I hope he keeps playing the character until he's 70, he'll still be in better shape than all of us youngsters.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Moore was 45 when he started Live and Let Die. He looked MUCH younger than Craig does now. There is no doubt Craig has aged, and since 2006 he looks every bit the 44 year old that he is..

Craig looks his age NOW, that is for certain, but has he visibly aged considerably from Layer Cake for instance? In my opinion, no. Like Connery he looked older than he really was back in the day. And Connery has looked about the same now for 20+ years. Moore looked younger than he really was when he became Bond, but by 1981 in the age of 54 looked like a lecherous old satyr. Plus Craig is in excellent shape. Bond is supposed to be a man not a boy, and when Sylvester Stallone is able to pull off being an ripped action hero in the age of 66 there's no doubt could Craig pull off being 007 into his early 50's.

Edited by AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän, 18 November 2012 - 03:54 AM.

[EyesOnly]

Moore was 45 when he started Live and Let Die. He looked MUCH younger than Craig does now. There is no doubt Craig has aged, and since 2006 he looks every bit the 44 year old that he is..

Craig looks his age NOW, that is for certain, but has he visibly aged considerably from Layer Cake for instance? In my opinion, no. Like Connery he looked older than he really was back in the day. And Connery has looked about the same now for 20+ years. Moore looked younger than he really was when he became Bond, but by 1981 in the age of 54 looked like a lecherous old satyr. Plus Craig is in excellent shape. Bond is supposed to be a man not a boy, and when Sylvester Stallone is able to pull off being an ripped action hero in the age of 66 there's no doubt could Craig pull off being 007 into his early 50's.

I think Craig has the type of face that depending on the angle he may look older or have a softer glow. I don't think Craig will look like he does now when and if he does Bond 25 or even Bond 24. To me it looks like he's starting to age slightly faster. It also seems like the producers are keen to keep him as Bond well into the age of decrepit, so I can't wait for the conversations then. I'm all for Craig to film as many Bonds as possible, but I don't want another 56 year old playing the part.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Agreed on that 56 year old part. But if the 2 year schedule holds Craig has at least 3 more films in him.

[MkB]

The very fact that we're having this conversation seems to me to prove that it was not very clever of the producers to play this

Spoiler

"tired, aging Bond"

card in Skyfall, when Craig has at least 2 films to go. As interesting as it may be, the way Craig was filmed in character in this film has reminded us all of his age and aging. It might have been smarter to use this card only for his last planned film.
Just my tuppence!

[Napoleon Solo]

Going back to the title of this thread, Gary Barber, the CEO of MGM, said Bond 24 could come out in '14 or '15. He also confirmed that John Logan is working on the script for Bond 24 and Bond 25.

http://hmssweblog.wo...d-24s-schedule/

If you go here:

http://www.mgm.com/#...estor-relations

And click on "conference calls" you can listen to the call. Barber discusses Skyfall in his opening remarks. Later, the timing of Bond 24 comes up in the Qand A. I don't know how long the recording will be available on that page.

[QOS4EVER]

The very fact that we're having this conversation seems to me to prove that it was not very clever of the producers to play this

Spoiler

"tired, aging Bond"

card in Skyfall, when Craig has at least 2 films to go. As interesting as it may be, the way Craig was filmed in character in this film has reminded us all of his age and aging. It might have been smarter to use this card only for his last planned film.
Just my tuppence!

^THIS!!

[Hockey Mask]

They didn't play the "tired" card they played the "recovering, rehabilitating, out of shape" card due to his injury and time off.
As far as the "aging" angle...it came across more as the role of a a secret agent being antiquated for the times then Bond's physical age.

That said, I thought Craig looked considerably more weathered in Skyfall.

[Thevan7F]

I hope so. I would like Bond to kiss the girl in the end. He was must have a new company with gadget since Q return. Miss Moneypenny has already return it Eve.

[007jamesbond]

I just want Q to give 007 a suitcase aka like FRWL with some changes to make it updated to 2012

[Trevelyan 006]

Hopefully, the quality will follow suit. I wouldn't want them putting out 'okay' Bond films due to the set schedule they plan to uphold. It a great Bond film takes a bit more than two years, I'd be willing to wait...

Especially, if Mendes doesn't sign on for the next one.

[BarbarasBallGown]

I hope MGM have a bit more money next time around, so we get more action scenes. Thats why "Skyfall" lacked.

[S K Y F A L L]

I just want Q to give 007 a suitcase aka like FRWL with some changes to make it updated to 2012

That could be cool.

Hopefully, the quality will follow suit. I wouldn't want them putting out 'okay' Bond films due to the set schedule they plan to uphold. It a great Bond film takes a bit more than two years, I'd be willing to wait...

Especially, if Mendes doesn't sign on for the next one.

I'm the opposite way about it, I'd rather have a Bond film every 2 years even if they aren't the most successful and are on par with QOS.

I hope MGM have a bit more money next time around, so we get more action scenes. Thats why "Skyfall" lacked.

SF wasn't all as action packed as I expected it to be either and welcome aboard.

[TheManwiththeWaltherPPK]

I, for one, preferred that Skyfall wasn't as action packed. I can't stand that Bond has evolved into some sort of one-man army commando. The man is supposed to an intelligence operative, a counter-spy/assassin. I'd prefer a return to the thriller format of the early films and the novels. Or at the very least, they need to shy away from big, old-fashioned set pieces. I found there to be such a huge disconnect between those in Casino Royale and the rest of the movie. Give us more stuff like the Stairwell fight in CR or the Macau Casino fight and less stuff like the African foot chase or the Miami Airport sequence in CR. Those sort of big set-pieces need to be earned, That is why I loved the final shootout in Skyfall so much. It was pay-off. It felt big and grand because the movie wasn't overloaded with huge set pieces. That was the key with the Fleming books too. The plotting, suspense and character building sucked you in the so the bigger, more fantastical sequences felt natural and satisfying. That's how we got away with things like fights with giant squids!

[L4YRCAKE]

I, for one, preferred that Skyfall wasn't as action packed. I can't stand that Bond has evolved into some sort of one-man army commando. The man is supposed to an intelligence operative, a counter-spy/assassin. I'd prefer a return to the thriller format of the early films and the novels. Or at the very least, they need to shy away from big, old-fashioned set pieces. I found there to be such a huge disconnect between those in Casino Royale and the rest of the movie. Give us more stuff like the Stairwell fight in CR or the Macau Casino fight and less stuff like the African foot chase or the Miami Airport sequence in CR. Those sort of big set-pieces need to be earned, That is why I loved the final shootout in Skyfall so much. It was pay-off. It felt big and grand because the movie wasn't overloaded with huge set pieces. That was the key with the Fleming books too. The plotting, suspense and character building sucked you in the so the bigger, more fantastical sequences felt natural and satisfying. That's how we got away with things like fights with giant squids!

Did Bond fight a giant squid...??? What's that a reference to? 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea?

Now I wanna see Bond fight a giant squid.

[Cody]

The squid fight is in the Dr. No novel.

[L4YRCAKE]

The squid fight is in the Dr. No novel.

Oh, duhhh... Of course it's in the Dr. No book.

Well, all my credibility as a Bond fan just went out the window. Next you're gonna tell me Frank Sinatra didn't sing From Russia With Love!

[Lionheart]

The very fact that we're having this conversation seems to me to prove that it was not very clever of the producers to play this

Spoiler

"tired, aging Bond"

card in Skyfall, when Craig has at least 2 films to go. As interesting as it may be, the way Craig was filmed in character in this film has reminded us all of his age and aging. It might have been smarter to use this card only for his last planned film.

I agree. I'd be much fonder of Skyfall if it would've been Pierce Brosnan's fifth and final film. I now consider it to be Craig's weakest of the three.

[seawolfnyy]

I just want Q to give 007 a suitcase aka like FRWL with some changes to make it updated to 2012

That was a briefcase, no one uses those anymore. Having said that, they did bring back the signature gun from Licence to Kill. Albeit, it's now a Walther PPK and not a sniper rifle disguised as a camera.

Edited by seawolfnyy, 02 December 2012 - 07:44 AM.

[TheManwiththeWaltherPPK]

I just want Q to give 007 a suitcase aka like FRWL with some changes to make it updated to 2012

That was a briefcase, no one uses those anymore. Having said that, they did bring back the signature gun from Licence to Kill. Albeit, it's now a Walther PPK and not a sniper rifle disguised as a camera.

What are you talking about? Pretty much everyone in business, finance or law still uses some form of briefcase or another. Sure, the hard "attache case" style used in FRWL is rarely seen anymore, but soft bag versions are still a mainstay. How else are people supposed to carry documents, tablets, and laptops around? To be honest though, the use of x-ray scanners in airports makes hidden compartments seem rather useless nowadays sadly. However, if Bond traveled under a diplomatic passport, it might solve that problem, but then what is the point of the hidden compartments as a result?

[Cody]

I'm looking forward to this being the first Bond movie in a long time that isn't delayed or disrupted by things like a casting search, writers strike, or studio bankruptcy. Just a nice, normal, peaceful pre-production.

[Trevelyan 006]

I'm looking forward to this being the first Bond movie in a long time that isn't delayed or disrupted by things like a casting search, writers strike, or studio bankruptcy. Just a nice, normal, peaceful pre-production.

 

Well said. I'll second that.

[MajorB]

I, for one, preferred that Skyfall wasn't as action packed. I can't stand that Bond has evolved into some sort of one-man army commando. The man is supposed to an intelligence operative, a counter-spy/assassin. I'd prefer a return to the thriller format of the early films and the novels. Or at the very least, they need to shy away from big, old-fashioned set pieces. I found there to be such a huge disconnect between those in Casino Royale and the rest of the movie. Give us more stuff like the Stairwell fight in CR or the Macau Casino fight and less stuff like the African foot chase or the Miami Airport sequence in CR. Those sort of big set-pieces need to be earned, That is why I loved the final shootout in Skyfall so much. It was pay-off. It felt big and grand because the movie wasn't overloaded with huge set pieces. That was the key with the Fleming books too. The plotting, suspense and character building sucked you in the so the bigger, more fantastical sequences felt natural and satisfying. That's how we got away with things like fights with giant squids!

Excellently said.

[Hockey Mask]

There is definately a place for Bong to be grand but that airport scene always feels tacked on to me.  The worst part of CR.

[Germanlady]

In this interview he is telling them, that he hopes to start shooting in one years time, which would make it November 13. Also a nice tidbit about the origin of the Bond theme around 13 min.

 

[Vauxhall]

That's great news if that's what Craig's hoping for, and has pencilled into his diary for BOND 24.

[Skylla]

I, for one, preferred that Skyfall wasn't as action packed. I can't stand that Bond has evolved into some sort of one-man army commando. The man is supposed to an intelligence operative, a counter-spy/assassin. I'd prefer a return to the thriller format of the early films and the novels. Or at the very least, they need to shy away from big, old-fashioned set pieces. I found there to be such a huge disconnect between those in Casino Royale and the rest of the movie. Give us more stuff like the Stairwell fight in CR or the Macau Casino fight and less stuff like the African foot chase or the Miami Airport sequence in CR. Those sort of big set-pieces need to be earned, That is why I loved the final shootout in Skyfall so much. It was pay-off. It felt big and grand because the movie wasn't overloaded with huge set pieces. That was the key with the Fleming books too. The plotting, suspense and character building sucked you in the so the bigger, more fantastical sequences felt natural and satisfying. That's how we got away with things like fights with giant squids!

Absolutely bloody right! They had the perfect moment with the reboot after the ott DAD to make the perfect Thriller and killed it with two leftovers from the old days. And I never can forgive that they missed out the opportunity to start with the perfect beginning of the novel (they could have started with the beginning of the book and made the beginning of the film flashbacks while Bond is in the Casino. Even in b/w, and go to colour when he kills Dryden). 

[seawolfnyy]

 

I, for one, preferred that Skyfall wasn't as action packed. I can't stand that Bond has evolved into some sort of one-man army commando. The man is supposed to an intelligence operative, a counter-spy/assassin. I'd prefer a return to the thriller format of the early films and the novels. Or at the very least, they need to shy away from big, old-fashioned set pieces. I found there to be such a huge disconnect between those in Casino Royale and the rest of the movie. Give us more stuff like the Stairwell fight in CR or the Macau Casino fight and less stuff like the African foot chase or the Miami Airport sequence in CR. Those sort of big set-pieces need to be earned, That is why I loved the final shootout in Skyfall so much. It was pay-off. It felt big and grand because the movie wasn't overloaded with huge set pieces. That was the key with the Fleming books too. The plotting, suspense and character building sucked you in the so the bigger, more fantastical sequences felt natural and satisfying. That's how we got away with things like fights with giant squids!

Absolutely bloody right! They had the perfect moment with the reboot after the ott DAD to make the perfect Thriller and killed it with two leftovers from the old days. And I never can forgive that they missed out the opportunity to start with the perfect beginning of the novel (they could have started with the beginning of the book and made the beginning of the film flashbacks while Bond is in the Casino. Even in b/w, and go to colour when he kills Dryden). 

 

They could've, but I love how they started the film. That whole sequence is just classic Bond. Granted, a lot of the first hour is just filler until Bond gets to Montenegro, but the beginning is just great.