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#181 Royal Dalton

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 03:16 PM

- Arrival of the main cast: Monday, April 30. This is in partial disagreement with Tonia Sotiropoulou's previous statement, alleging that her scenes are planned to be filmed throughout five days starting from April 22, considering that her scenes are likely to be with Daniel Craig. It's 1st unit work.


I think most of her scenes might be being shot at sea. So, it might still fit in with that.

#182 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:17 PM


- Arrival of the main cast: Monday, April 30. This is in partial disagreement with Tonia Sotiropoulou's previous statement, alleging that her scenes are planned to be filmed throughout five days starting from April 22, considering that her scenes are likely to be with Daniel Craig. It's 1st unit work.


I think most of her scenes might be being shot at sea. So, it might still fit in with that.


Sorry, maybe my previous post wasn't clear enough.
Tonia Sotiropoulou said that shooting of her scenes is scheduled to start in Istanbul on April 22 , shooting in the Mediterranean resort of Fethiye is scheduled for May 21 to 22 instead. Personally, I'd say that the odds to see her in a bikini are unfavorable, although it would undoubtedly be a pretty sight ;-)

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 07 April 2012 - 04:23 PM.


#183 Royal Dalton

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:32 PM

According to what was posted in the other thread, she doesn't specify the location, only that she's shooting in Turkey.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:36 AM

preparations at Calis Beach in Fethiye ongoing:

http://www.calis-bea...?TOPIC_ID=46343

Walking dogs in areas of natural beauty and reporting on Bond film construction.

Is that Lucy again?

#185 Vauxhall

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:21 PM

Hadn't seen this article before. Apologies if it's already been posted. A few more details on Istanbul filming:

http://www.hurriyetd...3&NewsCatID=381

Interesting that filming is reportedly due to take place at Sultanhamam. Possibility of a scene set in a Turkish bath complex, I reckon. Would be a good place for Bond to get rudely interrupted...

#186 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:52 AM

http://translate.goo...931.svd&act=url

With Google translator :

Bond Villain dream role for Ola Rapace

It draws Ola Rapace started his international career - as Bond villain.

In the upcoming "Cloudburst", he plays Patrice, a wily villain who will do their best to kill James Bond.

It is a very enthusiastic Ola Rapace who catch up on the set in Turkey.

- It's a dream come true. I enjoy every single second, he says to TT spectra.

Adana in southeastern Turkey, a couple of hours drive from Syria. They play in action sequences that will later be cut together with scenes taken in Istanbul. Stole and Daniel Craig's stunt double (Craig arrive at a later time to make their scenes) will chase each other on a motorcycle and then off a bridge jump on a train and where to start fighting.

- There is a guy who does not say very much, a control-freak who enjoys violence. He's a real villain, and it's a bit liberating. He does not pretend to be nice, he does his job, he is practical and not sentimental, says Ola Rapace.

- It means I do not have to prepare myself psychologically, which can sometimes be quite difficult.

Ola got the role because director Sam Mendes had seen him in Lukas Moodysson's "Together".

- I am surprised that he even remembered me from it, says Ola Rapace during a recording pause.

- I met him, then they tested me physically. It is a role that requires a lot, but I am physically fit. I've been training boxing for a long time for the film about Bo Högberg and Anita Lindblom.

All around us the buzz of Turkish and British staff. It is noticeable that there is a huge production (the film's budget is over $ 200 million), and Ola think that sometimes it almost feels silly.

- I have a huge trailer that is my during the shooting, and it's almost embarrassing to go into it sometimes.

But the size of the recording do not think he feels he is lost in the crowd. On the contrary.

- Everyone takes so incredibly good care of me. I really feel that one of the gang, and not least as one of the stunt guys. I really want to do as much as I can myself. Especially when it comes to motorcycle chase - I love to drive fast.

To be part of a big action movie has long been a dream for Ola Rapace, but it was not necessary that it would be just a Bond film.

- I've never been there but for Bond, but I think that they like Daniel Craig did is great. I've seen some of the older films, but I do not remember too much of them.

He will be happy more foreign roles, but he will not jump on anything.

- I'm not a child anymore, I'm more relaxed in the job. And I would never take a role in a shady movie just because it might be good for his career. It's not my style.

The hard part about being away on a job abroad is that he has no children.

Both Ola Rapace and ex-wife Who Stole now have international careers, and we have to reconcile their respective schedules.

But this summer, they work together again. For now the film about Bo Högberg and Anita Lindblom finally get rid of.

- We're shooting this summer. We both have found a suitable gap so we have time for it.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:24 PM

500 extras and 100 stuntmen required for filming in Istanbul:

http://translate.goo...6/Haber&act=url

Detailed road closure schedule here:

http://www.nationalt...ekimleri-104450

#188 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:15 PM

Video showing preparations for Skyfall at Eminonu.



#189 Shrublands

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:38 PM

very extensive coverage of a set visit in Adana by a Danish film magazine:

http://translate.goo...26prmd%3Dimvnso



That settles it for me, Bond is in Turkey just the once, during the first 15 minutes or so. He does not go back later.

#190 Royal Dalton

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:07 PM

Maybe Bond goes over the bridge with the carriages, then, and that's why they think he's dead?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:30 PM

Extremely detailed report, so I guess it's pretty accurate. Interested to see how Bond's Greek girlfriend fits in with the Patrice/Eve action sequence. Guess it's possible that Patrice is sent to kill Bond, for whatever reason, and although he fails, it's taken as an opportunity to fake his death. We already know that Patrice is featured later in the movie, so with him also surviving, I guess it's also somewhat of a failure for Bond/Eve, presumably due to a mistake made by Eve. (And then inevitably she'll get a chance to redeem herself by killing Patrice and saving Bond later in the piece!)

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:47 PM

Do people think that the big action of the train stuff is in the PTS or shortly after the main titles, sort of like CR?
Could the PTS be more of a dramatic thing - Bond being Bond with his Greek beauty on an assignment that he enjoys? Then, the main threat of Skyfall enters the picture and turns his world upside-down, as it were.
This involves Silva and his organisation, and presents a shattering truth about M’s past that Bond has trouble with.
This leads into the main titles.
After the titles, Bond has been joined by another MI6 agent (Eve) sent out by M. The big action kicks in shortly afterwards.

#193 Royal Dalton

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:11 PM

It's difficult to know, isn't it.

I think Silva's escape from prison most likely takes place during the PTS.

Tonia Sotiropoulou (presumably "Beautiful Woman" in the cast list) must be in it after the train sequence, because Bond's obviously not 'dead' at that point. Perhaps she pulls him out of the river and nurses him back to health, or something like that? Whether that's before, or after, the titles, I don't know.

Berenice Marlohe was also reported to be there during the time they were prepping the train sequence. So, she might also be involved in some way.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

The overriding thing I have in my head is that we know there is a maximum of approximately 18 scripted scenes (15 minutes according to our friends in the Turkish media) at the start of the film before the action switches to London. I'm sure that lots can be fit into that timeframe, but I imagine it won't be too nuanced if there's also a big action set piece. However I guess it's feasible that the pre-titles are the girlfriend scenes, and the train sequence kicks in after that. We need a clapperboard!

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:22 PM

So it's feasible that the train sequence IS the PTS, and the scenes in the Grand Bazaar occur afterward?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:54 PM

very extensive coverage of a set visit in Adana by a Danish film magazine:

http://translate.goo...26prmd%3Dimvnso


Great find Kamran_Shah, thanks for posting!

So it's feasible that the train sequence IS the PTS, and the scenes in the Grand Bazaar occur afterward?


According to the reports from the Turkish press, the sequence should begin on the roof of the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul, then goes on with the scenes filmed in Adana (which will appear in the finished film as Istanbul's suburb). According to Gary Powell's statements, this will be the longest intro scene in the series. In my opinion I think it would be very evocative if the PTS is intended to end with a shot of Bond falling from the 99 metres high Varda Bridge, creating a parallel with the film title "Skyfall" that will appear on the big screen a few seconds later ...

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 13 April 2012 - 05:55 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:10 PM

In my opinion I think it would be very evocative if the PTS is intended to end with a shot of Bond falling from the 99 metres high Varda Bridge, creating a parallel with the film title "Skyfall" that will appear on the big screen a few seconds later ...


Yeah, it would be a good way to lead into the main titles.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

Now this is more like it! As pieces become more clear, it's much more exciting (to me at least).

So Silva's breaking out of Jail in (possibly) the PTS?

What if this is the first time since the seventies that we get a PTS not featuring Bond?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:07 PM

I think the bridge thing will be like the old Goldeneye story board, that is, the derailed carriage hanging off and Bond helping Eve off the roof of the derailed part of the train, just before it falls. 15 mins or so is way too long before the main titles - this will all happen afterwards.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:25 PM

There's also a big chunk after the China segment that we know pretty much nothing about. Which, like Shrublands said before, is probably where this Japanese island comes into it.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:28 PM

Still, kind of dissappointed that most of the interesting/ spectacular scenes shot on location seem to be concentrated in the movie's first quarter.



I know what you mean, I think that is why I kept thinking that Bond must go back to Turkey in the second half of Act 2 or that part of what is shot in Turkey must be standing in for elsewhere.


There's also a big chunk after the China segment that we know pretty much nothing about. Which, like Shrublands said before, is probably where this Japanese island comes into it.


Yep, that’s where I thought the second Turkish bit must have been.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:44 PM

Me too. I've even been reduced to musing on whether all the train bits actually all join together, or whether they're from different bits of the movie. I guess most audience members won't notice anything, but in my head the transition from a low-lying city surrounded by water to a bridge in fairly mountainous conditions seems slightly geographically jarring!

Kudos to the production team for keeping this abandoned Japanese island under wraps for so long though. Hopefully Monday will shed further light.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:53 PM

That reminds me – when they were talking about India, I thought something similar – when they were talking about shooting near a market and an urban rail station, then mountainous rail track hundreds of miles away, I thought, that must be different parts of the film. But I suppose it needn’t be, this is a series where people go from Egypt to Sardinia by rail.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:21 PM

The Egypt to Sardinia train line still bothers me... I try to justify it by telling myself that it was just a stage in the ultimate journey, up from southern Italy. Anyway, back to SKYFALL, does anyone remember if Istanbul and India were rumoured as locations at the same time - because if so, I guess rewrites were essential to allow the suspected new pre-title sequence to flow as we now believe it does.

Turkish media have provided a rough outline of some of the Istanbul road closures:

http://gundem.milliy...202/default.htm

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:11 PM

Anyway, back to SKYFALL, does anyone remember if Istanbul and India were rumoured as locations at the same time - because if so, I guess rewrites were essential to allow the suspected new pre-title sequence to flow as we now believe it does.


The first rumour of India as a possible location for bond 23 surfaced on April 16 th, 2011.

http://articles.time...nch-neal-purvis

The original plan was to film a car chase through the streets of Ahmedabad in the province of Gujurat, and a stunt sequence atop a freight train around the Sabarmati railway line.
Negotiations with the Indian authorities led to an agreement on September 13th, 2011, then India was officially removed from the list of possible locations for Bond 23 on September 20th, 2011.

http://articles.time...rmissions-gauge

Istanbul was firstly reported as a location for Bond 23 on September 9th, 2011, when was disclosed that Turkish Culture Minister Ertuğrul Günay had granted EON permission to shoot in the historic Sultanahmet Square.

http://www.bond23.ne...d-23-locations/

Later that month, the Turkish Culture Minister revealed that “the opening scenes are planned to be filmed in Istanbul, but some other places will also be used outside Istanbul for the film”.
“The fact that the opening scene of the film will be made in Turkey will contribute to Turkish tourism” he added.

http://www.bond23.ne...d-23-locations/

In the following months the Turkish media all unanimously reported that the intro sequence was planned to film in Istanbul, Adana, Fethyie.

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 14 April 2012 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:23 PM

Excellent stuff, Luigi. Thanks for the information. Definitely appears that Turkey was an exact replacement for India then - Istanbul/Adana instead of Ahmedabad/Gujarat. This encourages me that it's all part of the same sequence, albeit with somewhat questionable geography.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:45 PM

Thanks for that Luigi.
Yep, Vauxhall - that's what I think too.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:27 AM

Yesterday was the first scheduled day of filming in Istanbul. The shoot was cancelled and it has not been communicated to the merchants, who now complain for loss of earnings.

http://translate.goo.../443633/7/Yasam

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 15 April 2012 - 11:56 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:48 AM

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:05 AM

Thanks again Luigi , you really are doing an excellent job here.