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[Harmsway]

Newman is in a hard place as far as appeasing Bond fandom goes, but I think the criticism isn't coming from the "not Bondian enough"/"too Bondian" place. The dominant complaints seem to be that Newman's cues sound somewhat generic.

[sharpshooter]

The dominant complaints seem to be that Newman's cues sound somewhat generic.

The same argument levelled against David Arnold. I'd say these cues are more daring in comparison.

[THX-007]

I, personally, really like the samples for the soundtrack. I don't know if it is generic or not, but whether it is or isn't, I like it. I know what I like and this I like.

[junkanoo]

I, personally, really like the samples for the soundtrack. I don't know if it is generic or not, but whether it is or isn't, I like it. I know what I like and this I like.

I appreciate your candor. Ultimately, if it works for you, that's all that really matters.

[JCRendle]

Back home, now to listen to the samples:- Opinion coming soon...

[Vauxhall]

A kindly soul has now put the Amazon samples together on YouTube:

[JCRendle]

Grand Bazaar, Istanbul - Interesting, can feel the Turkish influence.
Voluntary Retirement/Day Wasted/Close Shave - didn't really get much of an impression, seems to be leading into something.
Severine/Jellyfish/Modigliani/Enjoying Death/Skyfall/Mother beautiful
Brave New World/shanghai Drive/Adrenaline not really a fan, too modern?
Silhouette/Quartermaster very tribele, I like
Someone Usually Dies/Komodo Dragon/Tennyson/the Moors Mysterious
The Bloody Shot/The Chimera/Health and Safety/Granborough Road/Enquiry/Kill Them First/Welcome to Scotland/She's MineYou can feel the tension
Breadcrumbs interesting
Deep Water for some reason my mind went "Batman"

An interesting mix,some I like, some I don't. But I do think that Newman's tracks will work well. There's hints of Adele's themes, Bond theme's subtly worked in. I'm not complaining, looking forward to seeing how it works in the film.

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A kindly soul has now put the Amazon samples together on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStdJlpcXKY

They had to wait until I got back didn't they? Some people are so inconsiderate

[JimmyBond]

One of the reviews confirmed the Bond theme is used when needed, so that's a bit of relief from me. After two films of it being largely absent, I'm glad it's making a comeback.

[gkgyver]

This sounds absolutely mediocre.

At best.

At worst, it souns like elevator music.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

So would it have been better if David Arnold had stayed?

[marktmurphy]

So would it have been better if David Arnold had stayed?

a ) Too early to tell that.

b ) No.

[The Shark]

This sounds absolutely mediocre.

At best.

At worst, it souns like elevator music.

Still better than Arnold on an average day.

[PeteNeon]

So David Arnold has confirmed EON licensed "The Name's Bond . . . James Bond" from Casino Royale to use in the film. The person asking him about it said he heard it "several times."

Anyone who's seen it... is it prominent and obviously reused? Bit of a shame Newman couldn't/didn't do his own version, unless his score was so bad they replaced it.

[DamnCoffee]

Wait, what? The Bond theme in the film is Arnolds version?

[mcdonbb]

This sounds absolutely mediocre.

At best.

At worst, it souns like elevator music.

Still better than Arnold on an average day.

What elevators have you been in??? Just kidding to each his own

[PeteNeon]

Wait, what? The Bond theme in the film is Arnolds version?

Well, his CR version is used more than once. Of course there are probably multiple uses by Newman too, but its a bit disappointing to just copy and paste the old music, they should have at least chosen the QOS version which is less well known.

It will be annoying if they use it liberally.

[univex]

Wait, what? The Bond theme in the film is Arnolds version?

Well, his CR version is used more than once. Of course there are probably multiple uses by Newman too, but its a bit disappointing to just copy and paste the old music, they should have at least chosen the QOS version which is less well known.

It will be annoying if they use it liberally.

You sure they didn´t just seem the same?

[PeteNeon]

Wait, what? The Bond theme in the film is Arnolds version?

Well, his CR version is used more than once. Of course there are probably multiple uses by Newman too, but its a bit disappointing to just copy and paste the old music, they should have at least chosen the QOS version which is less well known.

It will be annoying if they use it liberally.

You sure they didn´t just seem the same?

David Arnold said they licensed it for the film.

https://twitter.com/...230124733317120

[sharpshooter]

David Arnold said they licensed it for the film.

https://twitter.com/...230124733317120

Well, there we go. Interesting.

[DamnCoffee]

I'm really not sure what to think of this. I'm so happy that Skyfall has gotten rave reviews. Seriously, after the reception of Quantum of Solace, I honestly thought that this was make or break. There's just some little things that have annoyed me. The gunbarrel is the first. I'll tell you a story. I went out last night and I got incredibly drunk, and I was standing at the urinals, and my friend came in next to me, and I was apparently muttering to myself. He asked what was wrong, and I replied with... "Nothing... I just can't believe they put it at the end again."

It caused quite a few laughs this morning, but seriously. It's something I don't understand. This is Bond with a capital B. Apparently. It's the 50th Anniversary. I just wished that this opened with the gunbarrel. Me and my best friend were talking a few weeks ago, how brilliant it would be to be sitting in the CInema. Opening Logos play, and then, all of a sudden, the Bond theme roars and the gunbarrel appears. It's a small thing, granted, but we haven't had this for 10 years.

Another thing I was looking forward to, was a brand new Bond theme variation. Now, there's the fact that David Arnold's 'The Names Bond... James Bond' is used throughout the movie. I mean, it's a fine track, don't get me wrong, but if it's blasting during every action sequence then I won't be very happy. It's just generic and boring. Everything else seems great though.

[PeteNeon]

I'm really not sure what to think of this. I'm so happy that Skyfall has gotten rave reviews. Seriously, after the reception of Quantum of Solace, I honestly thought that this was make or break. There's just some little things that have annoyed me. The gunbarrel is the first. I'll tell you a story. I went out last night and I got incredibly drunk, and I was standing at the urinals, and my friend came in next to me, and I was apparently muttering to myself. He asked what was wrong, and I replied with... "Nothing... I just can't believe they put it at the end again."

It caused quite a few laughs this morning, but seriously. It's something I don't understand. This is Bond with a capital B. Apparently. It's the 50th Anniversary. I just wished that this opened with the gunbarrel. Me and my best friend were talking a few weeks ago, how brilliant it would be to be sitting in the CInema. Opening Logos play, and then, all of a sudden, the Bond theme roars and the gunbarrel appears. It's a small thing, granted, but we haven't had this for 10 years.

Another thing I was looking forward to, was a brand new Bond theme variation. Now, there's the fact that David Arnold's 'The Names Bond... James Bond' is used throughout the movie. I mean, it's a fine track, don't get me wrong, but if it's blasting during every action sequence then I won't be very happy. It's just generic and boring. Everything else seems great though.

Completely agree with all of that. I reckon it will be used towards the end, in some big "Bond is back" moments, which is probably the worst place for them to use it. I strongly associate that music with the end of CR. It's going to be pretty stupid if all the key moments have music from two films ago in them! I know the earlier films did that, but there hasn't been a single reuse of a variation since David Arnold took the reigns.

I was also really looking forward to Arnold reintroducing the Bond theme, and some sort of continuation of Inside Man. He would have had a field day with this, and with Adele on board so early, we would have had so many instances of it in the score.

I have seen a few people mention that the film reuses the original classic version, in the same way where it just plays exactly the same with no interruption. I think those people probably were talking about The Name's Bond, which suggests we might get a few bits where they just roll out the complete track with no changes at all.

Edited by PeteNeon, 14 October 2012 - 01:35 AM.

[univex]

Same here Harkers.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

I knew it wouldn't take long, but I'm now at the point where I'm too embarrassed to be associated with the group lamenting the gun barrel placement so I won't say any more on the matter.

[JimmyBond]

I think it's kind of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. With the last two films people were disappointed that the Bond theme didn't really show up in the body of the film. Now that it's apparently being used to pump up the action scenes (as it should). People are complaining that it's Arnold's version. Not to mention the lack of somethinig that hasn't opened a Bond film in ten years.

Ok, I'll fess up, I am disappointed that the gunbarrel doesn't open the film. However I'm going to let the Bond theme one go, I've been waiting two films for Craig's Bond to get it, now we got it. I'm calling that one a win.

Edited by JimmyBond, 14 October 2012 - 01:50 AM.

[DamnCoffee]

It's not to do with the fact that the Bond theme is back. I LOVE the Bond theme. It's more to do with the fact that the tweeter said that it was used several times in the soundtrack. I love the fact that Craig is getting the Bond theme. I think i'm in the minority here who prefers Bond theme variations rather than the full track. (Personally, I find Monty Normans Bond theme dated and boring), and I much prefer the Bond theme blasting during a track. (Pursuit at Port Au Prince, Antanov, Whiteout). It makes it fresh, but the impression I'm getting is, that 'The Name's Bond, James Bond' is just going to be randomly roaring when Bond is doing something SEVERAL times throughout the movie. Why couldn't Newman do it? His renditions of the Bond theme was something I was looking forward to hearing.

[Mike00spy]

Well, it is a problem if it seems like a cut and paste job, right?

I think it's kind of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

No, not at all. If you hire a composer, then he should, you know, compose a rendition of the bond theme. To take an old track means that they simply didn't like what Newman did, and since we are familiar with it, its use might stick out like a sore thumb.

[Matt_13]

I'm excited to hear it again.

[THX-007]

Well, it is a problem if it seems like a cut and paste job, right?

I think it's kind of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

No, not at all. If you hire a composer, then he should, you know, compose a rendition of the bond theme. To take an old track means that they simply didn't like what Newman did, and since we are familiar with it, its use might stick out like a sore thumb.

Well it appears Newman did do a version of the Bond theme because we hear a snippet of it in "Breadcrumbs"

[JimmyBond]

I know exactly what people are annoyed about regarding this. But frankly, I'm going to ignore the fact that it's a reuse and just be grateful that it's back.

[Berni99]

Wait, what? The Bond theme in the film is Arnolds version?

Maybe the Producers think some stuff of Newman doesn't work in the Film, and they replace some cues like the Drive to. St. Petersburg in Goldeneye?

Edited by Berni99, 14 October 2012 - 06:51 AM.