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[JazzyBond]

Can't say I love it or am indifferent to it. It's only 30 second clips so it's hard to tell. For example, I like The Moors but on this clip there is hardly anything to sink your teeth into. Also, is it just me or do I hear Adele's Skyfall at the end of the Deep Water clip? Sounds like the part where she sings "Let it crumble".

[univex]

Can't say I love it or am indifferent to it. It's only 30 second clips so it's hard to tell. For example, I like The Moors but on this clip there is hardly anything to sink your teeth into. Also, is it just me or do I hear Adele's Skyfall at the end of the Deep Water clip? Sounds like the part where she sings "Let it crumble".

Yep, it´s there alright.

[Jeao007]

I have to say, I'm thoroughly disappointed. I was hoping we'd get something like this:

Edited by Jeao007, 12 October 2012 - 03:08 AM.

[MattofSteel]

This is all a giant prank, right? I mean, seriously. What has happened to this thread in the last 24 hours?

[00Twelve]

Definitely nowhere near enough to make a judgement call. Also, context will play a major role.

[archer1949]

It's hard to tell from 30 second samples, but it does have a bit more life to it than Newman's usual amorphous ambient snoozefests. No, I am not a fan. But this seems...serviceable. But yeah, I am one of those who wanted Arnold doing a full on Barry pastiche for the 50th. Sue me.

If they can't bring Arnold back, I'd like to see Michael Giacchino take a crack at a Bond score.

[MattofSteel]

Giacchino's approach has evolved considerably. He's always had a Barry-inspired flair, but I always felt his sound was far too "busy". Just way too many things going on, hard to grasp ahold of the music at all.

That's changed, though. Loved his Mission: Impossible 4 score. I'd be comfortable giving him a Bond.

But if we're strictly speaking about Newman alternatives, then yeah, I really really really wish Arnold could have done Skyfall.

Definitely nowhere near enough to make a judgement call. Also, context will play a major role.

Huge. There's plenty of CR's score that's just ambient noise and doesn't work remotely well as an album track. But I adore that score, and every pulse and note of it works perfectly fine within the context of the film.

[The Shark]

Definitely nowhere near enough to make a judgement call. Also, context will play a major role.

Huge. There's plenty of CR's score that's just ambient noise and doesn't work remotely well as an album track. But I adore that score, and every pulse and note of it works perfectly fine within the context of the film.

Obviously. Otherwise it would have been revised or rejected.

[QOS4EVER]

Definitely nowhere near enough to make a judgement call. Also, context will play a major role.

Huge. There's plenty of CR's score that's just ambient noise and doesn't work remotely well as an album track. But I adore that score, and every pulse and note of it works perfectly fine within the context of the film.

Obviously. Otherwise it would have been revised or rejected.

Shark,
Whats your opinion on the samples we heard thus far ?

Edited by QOS4EVER, 12 October 2012 - 07:53 AM.

[x007AceOfSpades]

It all sounds great, and I can't wait to have the soundtrack. Some of my favorite tracks:

Voluntary Retirement, Shanghai Drive, Modigliani, Day Wasted, Komodo Dragon, Enjoying Death, Granborough Road, Breadcrumbs, Skyfall, Kill Them First, Deep Water, Adrenaline, New Digs, The Moors.

Loving the sound of it. Can't wait to see it all mesh with the film!

[The Shark]

Definitely nowhere near enough to make a judgement call. Also, context will play a major role.

Huge. There's plenty of CR's score that's just ambient noise and doesn't work remotely well as an album track. But I adore that score, and every pulse and note of it works perfectly fine within the context of the film.

Obviously. Otherwise it would have been revised or rejected.

Shark,
Whats your opinion on the samples we heard thus far ?

I dig Mogdilani, Shanghai Drive, Day Wasted, Health & Safety, The Chimera, Komodo Dragon, Brave New World, New Digs, Severine, The Bloody Shot, Close Shave, Adrenaline, The Enquiry, Deep Water. For the life of me I can't stand Welcome To Scotland, The Moors, Granbourough Road, She's Mine, Kill Them First, Quartermaster, and the second half of the Grand Bazaar, Istanbul sample. Breadcrumbs sounds like Thomas Newman wrote it with MattofSteel's gun pointed to his head.

Not sure about the others.

[QOS4EVER]

Definitely nowhere near enough to make a judgement call. Also, context will play a major role.

Huge. There's plenty of CR's score that's just ambient noise and doesn't work remotely well as an album track. But I adore that score, and every pulse and note of it works perfectly fine within the context of the film.

Obviously. Otherwise it would have been revised or rejected.

Shark,
Whats your opinion on the samples we heard thus far ?

Thomas Newman wrote it with MattofSteel's gun pointed to his head.

I am pretty sure if I had a gun pointed at Mr.Newman , I would be a little trigger happy

[Satorious]

Newman's stuff rarely "hits me between the eyes" first time. I've given them all a few listens now - I have to say what there is - is really growing on me. It's difficult to take things in context in a 30 clip, but I can see some of these working very well. I don't think this is as generic as many have said - it's still very Newman in style with a number of Bondesque flurishes. In particular the track Mother is haunting me - I can see this working brilliantly in the film. Track 15 is exactly the kind of cool 60's spy flavour I've wanted to see in Bond for a while now. But let's not fully judge until we've seen how it works in the film!

[junkanoo]

Track 15 is exactly the kind of cool 60's spy flavour I've wanted to see in Bond for a while now. But let's not fully judge until we've seen how it works in the film!

Enjoying Death (Track 15) has a "cool 60's spy flavour" to it? Although I like the track, to me, it sounds more like "Aladdin finds a Carpet that Ties the Room Together."

When Sam Mendes said he was going for a 'back to the 60's' idea - I didn't know whether he meant '60's taunt' or '60's vibe.' If he meant 60's vibe, I don't sense anything of note that supports that in the tracks so far. However, a bit of fun or hommage could be all over the "James Bond Theme" for all we know. Time will tell.

On the most positive spin of things ... I found Shanghai Drive, Jellyfish, Day Wasted, Enjoying Death, Enquiry and Deep Water the most promising of the bunch.

[MattofSteel]

So we're in agreement some of the tracks are great, and some are not so much, then?

[Satorious]

Enjoying Death (Track 15) has a "cool 60's spy flavour" to it? Although I like the track, to me, it sounds more like "Aladdin finds a Carpet that Ties the Room Together."

Well the fluttery flutes screamed "mysterious 60's spy" to me, rather than Aladdin - but then I guess everyone is different!

Perhaps the biggest disappointment I have (which may well turn out to be unjustified) is that the Bond theme (on the breadcrumbs track) is generic and nothing new on Arnold's take. I was hoping for something a bit more radical personally...

[junkanoo]

So we're in agreement some of the tracks are great, and some are not so much, then?

No. To describe music, I would never use the word 'great' lightly. To do so cheapens the music that is truly great.

[Elmason]

I don't think we can definitively say whether it's good or not from thirty seconds of each song, I've listened to the three full tracks released and there's a lot of nuance there that you simply wouldn't be able to judge from a short preview.

Would be good of anyone on here who will be attending the press screening tonight to give us a heads up on the score.

[MattofSteel]

I'm really hoping for that, too. A few "and there are moments where the Bond theme explodes!" bits in the reviews would be excellent. Or at least, I'm hoping for an absence of any "What the hell were they thinking with that score and why does this movie sound so weird?" sentiments.

[SecretAgentFan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStdJlpcXKY

I´m beginning to absolutely love this...

Was it just my (wrong) expectations again that made me disapprove of these samples on my first listening?

What would I have said listening to samples from Marvin Hamlisch´s "THE SPY WHO LOVED ME" after a long diet of John Barry (with George Martin thrown in)? If the internet had been there at that time, I guess Hamlisch would have gotten the same reaction (if not a worse one) that Newman had to endure here.

But listening to these samples without any notions of how one wanted the score to be its ideas and strengths reveal themselves.

[delfloria]

Listening to the samples again, what I personally miss from the 60's scores is that they have a crisp in your face sharp sound as if it was a mid sized swing band being recorded from 6 feet away. The SKYFALL score has that big orchestra sound recorded in a big music hall which makes it feel distant and not as intimate. If Mendes was going for a 60's vibe he missed it on this account. This score isn't bad, just different. It is quite haunting.

[The Shark]

Listening to the samples again, what I personally miss from the 60's scores is that they have a crisp in your face sharp sound as if it was a mid sized swing band being recorded from 6 feet away. The SKYFALL score has that big orchestra sound recorded in a big music hall which makes it feel distant and not as intimate. If Mendes was going for a 60's vibe he missed it on this account. This score isn't bad, just different. It is quite haunting.

The wet, drenched in reverb, ambient miked sound is pretty much the standard for nearly all scores today, with Thomas Newman being no exception. I too miss the crispness of the Kentonesque brass in the 63-71 scores, but it's largely an aesthetic choice.

[Satorious]

Is anyone else getting a "Stargate" vibe from the chords in Severine?

I'm also finding The Bloody shot an odd hybrid between NSNA's score and towards the end some Kamen-esque trumpets similar to the underwater scene in LTK. Perhaps just me, but bizarre!

[extremedalek]

If "Breadcrumbs" is the gunbarrel music, its a little disappointing, no? It cuts off just before it gets going...

[DamnCoffee]

I think there's a bit more too it. It's not the first 30 seconds of the track. It sounds as if there's a few seconds before it starts.

[extremedalek]

Lets hope so. Looking for a really satisfying gunbarrel sequence this time around.

[Satorious]

I really hope Breadcrumbs isn't the gun-barrel, I want something more traditional but edgier. I don't know why so many people believe this is the gun-barrel sequence - is it just because it has some Bond theme in it?

[Vauxhall]

I really hope Breadcrumbs isn't the gun-barrel, I want something more traditional but edgier. I don't know why so many people believe this is the gun-barrel sequence - is it just because it has some Bond theme in it?

That, and the fact that some of us think "Breadcrumbs" works as a title for the events of the first scene of the movie.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I have a strong feeling that it will be. It sounds great to me.

[THX-007]

I feel sorry for Thomas Newman because no matter he does he'll never win. If he strays from the Barry sound then its not "Bondian". If he sticks closely to it then he's not doing anything new.

If "Breadcrumbs" is the gunbarrel music, its a little disappointing, no? It cuts off just before it gets going...

Its pretty obvious that the sample doesn't start at the beginning.