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[MattofSteel]

Definitely an ambient track and not an action one. But that's fine. If the quality of the score's ambient pieces is this, we're going to have an OST that rivals Thunderball for 60's lounge-y awesomeness.

Now I'm actually afraid this will end up just being particularly good agency music, and not Newman's work.

[TheSilhouette]

Well if it isn't Newman, then sign these guys up for Bond 24

[MattofSteel]

Has to be Newman. There's real skill at work there. That's not agency production value or fluff writing.

If it's true, this has to be the earliest a score sample from a Bond film's ever appeared publicly. I seem to recall Quantum's score appearing online particularly early, and even that was mid-October.

[The Dove]

Another coincidence perhaps??... A Coke Zero ad is the first place we got our first listen to what was to become Another Way To Die...now this is another Coke Zero promo so in all likelyhood, why not promote some of Newman's score with it?

[Pussfeller]

Now I'm actually afraid this will end up just being particularly good agency music, and not Newman's work.

This piece of music lasts about 1:30 before repeating. That's about the length of one of the shorter tracks on Arnold's QOS sountrack, but it seems a bit long for agency music, especially considering that this incorporates notes of the Bond theme. It's not just a vaguely spy-flavored tune that might have been pulled out of a music library. I think this really could be a track from Newman's OST.

[MattofSteel]

See, that's where I'm not sure. It could be a vaguely spy-flavoured tune from a music library, just a particularly good one. It just reeks of Newman technique so much.

And all the different ideas....holy crap. I'd be far more inclined to believe it's not an actual OST track, but rather a compacted suite of several that have been fitted to share a rhythm line. An idea starts, lasts 10 seconds, and then we're onto something definitively different.

[TheSilhouette]

Now I'm actually afraid this will end up just being particularly good agency music, and not Newman's work.

This piece of music lasts about 1:30 before repeating. That's about the length of one of the shorter tracks on Arnold's QOS sountrack, but it seems a bit long for agency music, especially considering that this incorporates notes of the Bond theme. It's not just a vaguely spy-flavored tune that might have been pulled out of a music library. I think this really could be a track from Newman's OST.

I could see it being used in a scene like Bond's arrival at the floating casino or stealthily stalking Patrice in the office building in Shanghai.

[MattofSteel]

If they're keeping with spy movie convention and having the score reflect the various locales, I'd tend to agree that it's got far more of a Turkey-ish vibe than anything.

[marktmurphy]

That is very nice, it's true. But it's a synth orchestra, isn't it?

Even so, I am a bit inclined to believe it's the real thing. Someone record it in case it gets taken down!

[TheSilhouette]

That is very nice, it's true. But it's a synth orchestra, isn't it?

Even so, I am a bit inclined to believe it's the real thing.

Is it synth? It didn't really sound like it to me.

[Rich Douglas]

It's real. Or on second thought.. I suppose it could be a custom sample library. But there are some subtle nuances in that piece that lead me to believe it's the real deal and not sample based.

I like it quite a bit... and I think it's genuine. Lots of Newman sounding bits in there and I love the subtle hint of the bond theme throughout. Classy.

BUT... I'm a little baffled, and sad, that he (or someone working on the score) chose to use such a prominent loop from the old commercially available Stormdrum sample library put out by east west almost a decade ago. Why not just hire live players or use something original? Its not like Newman (or any other of the larger composers for that matter) to use canned.. well.. anything. Especially when it comes to percussion!

Could be they havent done the actual drum overlays yet I suppose. We'll see. But sounds GREAT so far!

[Royal Dalton]

Sounds about right.

I'd say this probably from the bit where Bond arrives in Shanghai.

[MattofSteel]

Sorry, Rich. Confused. You're saying the orchestra itself isn't synth, but the percussion sampling is digital, from a well known library? That does seem odd.

[marktmurphy]

The opening sounds like it could be from Serra's GoldenEye, but in a good way

Funny you say that; I think it ends in a definite Serra GoldenEye way, with the strings sort of drifting down.

[K1Bond007]

Gotta say, I really dig it.

[marktmurphy]

Sorry, Rich. Confused. You're saying the orchestra itself isn't synth, but the percussion sampling is digital, from a well known library? That does seem odd.

All sounds synth to me. Especially the brass.

[Rich Douglas]

You're saying the orchestra itself isn't synth, but the percussion sampling is digital, from a well known library? That does seem odd.

Thats right Matt. I do believe the orchestra to be real but that main ethnic percussion bed is an unaltered patch from Stormdrum, which anyone can find for fairly cheap these days. Very odd indeed.

[The Shark]

I don't buy it. Call it a hunch if you will, and I'll be the first to eat my words if turns out to be true. Just doesn't sound tightly structured enough to be Newman, more like Bond videogame music (i.e. Christopher Lennertz or Richard Jacques).

It's good, but not that good.

[marktmurphy]

I don't buy that as a real orchestra at all.

[The Shark]

All sounds synth to me. Especially the brass.

That's just the way film scores are recorded nowadays.

[marktmurphy]

All sounds synth to me. Especially the brass.

That's just the way film scores are recorded nowadays.

Oh sure; I'm not saying it's not real because of that. Even Licence To Kill had some of that going on!

[Rich Douglas]

Hmmmm... it COULD be something from 007 Legends. Just sayin'

But there are a few Newmanisms going on in the string sections... of course it could be the game composer mimicking Newmans style for the Skyfall section of the game. That would definitely explain the stormdrum usage.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Even though it's only a small sample, I've still been listening to this for over half an hour now.

[MattofSteel]

I don't buy it. Call it a hunch if you will, and I'll be the first to eat my words if turns out to be true. Just doesn't sound tightly structured enough to be Newman, more like Bond videogame music (i.e. Christopher Lennertz or Richard Jacques).

It's good, but not that good.

Was just thinking the same thing. Sounds quite like it could have been something from Blood Stone or the new GoldenEye.

[marktmurphy]

It's not from Blood Stone, that's for sure: that was horrible! Like a terrible 70's TV movie score!

[The Shark]

I'm starting think it is sampled. At least the horn rip at the beginning gives that impression. 007 LEGENDS sounds about right.

[DominicGreene]

I don't buy it. Call it a hunch if you will, and I'll be the first to eat my words if turns out to be true. Just doesn't sound tightly structured enough to be Newman, more like Bond videogame music (i.e. Christopher Lennertz or Richard Jacques).

It's good, but not that good.

Was just thinking the same thing. Sounds quite like it could have been something from Blood Stone or the new GoldenEye.

Yes, I agree. It doesn't sound "grand" enough. EON wouldn't just release Newman's score like this, especially if they aren't willing to unveil that Adele's doing the theme.

[MattofSteel]

Is there a precedent for using Bond video game music in an advert? Oh, lord. Can Newman's real score be that horrible?!

[PeteNeon]

No, they wouldn't use game music in promotions for the films.

You're all reading into it too much, it's definitely Newman!

[MattofSteel]

I'd tend to believe Rich if he's identified a specific library sample, though. Which would be strikingly odd, if it were used in the final score.

Is it at all possible Newman produced an entirely digital/synth version of the score before recording it with an orchestra, and they've used one of his demo tracks for the advert? I seem to recall a QOS blog featuring Arnold doing the same thing.