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#121 Righty007

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:07 AM


I think it's a pretty solid idea myself. The best I've heard, in fact.

When I'm looking at these meetings on a rooftop, I'm seeing Craig hand the box off to Eve in a way that is ... well, a little shady. The rooftop is a dead end; there is nowhere else to go. I'm guessing that Bond is entrusting the box to Eve so that she can get it out of London safely. I'm thinking events will play out like this:

- Eve thinks she is Bond's equal. She's running around firing a machine gun, but it begins to catch up with her.
- At some point, Eve realises that she cannot continue to live like Bond. She opts out before the villains realise her involvement in the plot.
- During the events of the film, Eve has earned Bond's trust. This won't be the whole "Can I trust you?" subplot, but instead could be something as simple as proving to be competent and capable at her job. For example, she could do something unorthodox but clever, like the way Bond tricked the Quantum members to reveal themselves at the opera.
- After Eve opts out, Bond continues pursuing the villains. He begins to realise that there is a very serious and multi-layered conspiracy going on. As he prepares to confront Javier Bardem for the final time, he comes to the conclusion that Bardem may have allies who will try and stop him. Bond may be able to identify this particular ally, but will be unable to directly act against them.
- The box is Bond's "insurance policy": it contains something that can hurt anyone who might try and stop him; if Bond should die before confronting Bardem, the contents of the box will be made public, and will consequently ruin that person's reputation.
- Knowing that he is being hunted by Bardem's people, Bond turns to the one person who is outside the system that he knows will be able to ensure safe passage of the box: Eve. He hands it to her with instructions that if he does not contact her again by a certain time, she should reveal the contents of the box through the apporpriate channels (possibly Ralph Fiennes or Helen McCrory).
- Once the exchange is complete, we cut to the finale, with Bond arriving in Scotland to find Bardem.

Why are you making stuff up?

#122 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:24 AM

I'm just floating an idea based on what we can see in the picture, and what we know from the actors. We can see that Bond and Eve are exchanging the box on a rooftop. We can see that this is scene 172, which means it will come towards the end of the film. And Naomie Harris has described her character as "thinking she is Bond's equal, but she is really his junior" and that she has spent time practicing with machine guns. So with all of that in mind, I constructed a scenario that I think could reasonably explain the scene whilst staying true to our existing knowledge: Bond hands the box to the one person outside MI6 that he knows will make sure the contents of the box are released if anything should happen to him. The box itself is evidence against the villains, and something that certain elements within MI6 are interested in keeping quiet (after all, we know M's past has a lot of bearing on the story).

I think my "insurance policy" explanation is a lot more credible than the "M's ashes" idea.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 12:50 PM

I'm on board with the insurance policy/files/documents idea for the contents of the box, or it contains MI6's final record of M's doubtless ill-fated Skyfall operation.

Looking at the photos though, it doesn't seem clear to me whether Bond's giving the box to Eve, or vice versa. At some angles, it looks there are two different boxes, so it could perhaps be an exchange.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:27 PM

I'm on board with the insurance policy/files/documents idea for the contents of the box, or it contains MI6's final record of M's doubtless ill-fated Skyfall operation.

Looking at the photos though, it doesn't seem clear to me whether Bond's giving the box to Eve, or vice versa. At some angles, it looks there are two different boxes, so it could perhaps be an exchange.


I’d say it’s Bond handing the box to Eve, my money is on this photo being from the end of the scene, with the two of them looking out to the Houses of Parliament

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:07 PM

News from Skyfall
The following message was posted on Twitter 7 minutes ago:
BillRoy_photo Bill Roy
New Bond film being shot outside my studio/gallery in Charing Cross tomorrow!

This is the address:
Underground Gallery & Studio
Charing Cross Underground Arcade,
Strand, London,WC2N 4HZ

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 07 December 2011 - 09:13 PM.


#126 DamnCoffee

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:08 PM



I think it's a pretty solid idea myself. The best I've heard, in fact.

When I'm looking at these meetings on a rooftop, I'm seeing Craig hand the box off to Eve in a way that is ... well, a little shady. The rooftop is a dead end; there is nowhere else to go. I'm guessing that Bond is entrusting the box to Eve so that she can get it out of London safely. I'm thinking events will play out like this:

- Eve thinks she is Bond's equal. She's running around firing a machine gun, but it begins to catch up with her.
- At some point, Eve realises that she cannot continue to live like Bond. She opts out before the villains realise her involvement in the plot.
- During the events of the film, Eve has earned Bond's trust. This won't be the whole "Can I trust you?" subplot, but instead could be something as simple as proving to be competent and capable at her job. For example, she could do something unorthodox but clever, like the way Bond tricked the Quantum members to reveal themselves at the opera.
- After Eve opts out, Bond continues pursuing the villains. He begins to realise that there is a very serious and multi-layered conspiracy going on. As he prepares to confront Javier Bardem for the final time, he comes to the conclusion that Bardem may have allies who will try and stop him. Bond may be able to identify this particular ally, but will be unable to directly act against them.
- The box is Bond's "insurance policy": it contains something that can hurt anyone who might try and stop him; if Bond should die before confronting Bardem, the contents of the box will be made public, and will consequently ruin that person's reputation.
- Knowing that he is being hunted by Bardem's people, Bond turns to the one person who is outside the system that he knows will be able to ensure safe passage of the box: Eve. He hands it to her with instructions that if he does not contact her again by a certain time, she should reveal the contents of the box through the apporpriate channels (possibly Ralph Fiennes or Helen McCrory).
- Once the exchange is complete, we cut to the finale, with Bond arriving in Scotland to find Bardem.

Why are you making stuff up?



He said it was his idea. He's free to do as he pleases. It's a fan forum after all.


Nice read, Captain!

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:17 PM

News from Skyfall
The following message was posted on Twitter 7 minutes ago:
BillRoy_photo Bill Roy
New Bond film being shot outside my studio/gallery in Charing Cross tomorrow!

This is the address:
Underground Gallery & Studio
Charing Cross Underground Arcade,
Strand, London,WC2N 4HZ


interesting anyone could googe this location on google map street view

#128 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:23 PM


News from Skyfall
The following message was posted on Twitter 7 minutes ago:
BillRoy_photo Bill Roy
New Bond film being shot outside my studio/gallery in Charing Cross tomorrow!

This is the address:
Underground Gallery & Studio
Charing Cross Underground Arcade,
Strand, London,WC2N 4HZ


interesting anyone could googe this location on google map street view

I've found that it is adjacent to the London Charing Cross Rail Station

#129 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:51 PM

From another source I've just found that night shooting is expected to take place on Thursday. PM for details.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 10:09 PM

From another source I've just found that night shooting is expected to take place on Thursday. PM for details.


where any details?

#131 Shrublands

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 11:12 PM

I've found that it is adjacent to the London Charing Cross Rail Station


Knowing the area, I’d say it’s that arcade that’s part of the Tube.

When they say outside, they could mean in the underground arcade, or outside the Tube, on the Strand.

#132 Luigi Ferrari

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:03 AM

News from "Skyfall" shooting:

LaurenLeitch TigerLily
I'm SO jealous of my dad. James Bond is being filmed on the roof of his office and his friend met Daniel Craig!
1 hour ago

abbeyfarmer Abbey Farmer-Hartley
aw they're filming the new James Bond outside my dad's work
4 hours ago

bobcm872 Robert Barron
New James Bond film then "Skyfall" Filming all over the place
7 hours ago

Hannah_jay1989 Hannah Johnstone
It's like there's been a bomb scare at work because daniel Craig has turned up #he'sonlyahumanbeing
7 hours ago

A1EX8 Alex Bradshaw
Work meeting just been interrupted to allow the filming of the new bond film to continue. #secretlocation #fb
13 hours ago

CoCoRu3 Colline Muchets
I gotta be late for work more often... Daniel Craig jus asked me for directions...I feel like a Bond girl :P #gassed
13 hours ago

CoCoRu3 Colline Muchets
@MissMaeve lol yeah defo not northampton.. yeah in london at my workplace :) im surrounded by film studios.. hes filmin here for james bond
12 hours ago

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 08 December 2011 - 12:08 AM.


#133 00Twelve

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 04:31 AM

When is the northeast Tennessee portion being filmed? <sigh>

#134 The Dove

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 04:37 AM

Great find Luigi!! You are really "onotopp" of things! LOL.. :) You aren't by chance the mysterious "Yarborough" fellow who gave us all the updates when Casino Royale was filming are you?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:28 AM

interesting stuff but no real detail of course!

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:13 AM

Every single guy out there has a camera in his pocket!!!
Any photos????

Please????

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:04 AM

Any photos????

Please????

Don't you think we would be posted if we had them? Since nobody has posted them, what do you think that means? Or do you think people are enjoying watching you squirm as they sift through their photos?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:34 AM


Any photos????

Please????

Don't you think we would be posted if we had them? Since nobody has posted them, what do you think that means? Or do you think people are enjoying watching you squirm as they sift through their photos?


It´s a little surprising that filming in London every day (almost), we had seen so few photos so far. When Bond visit Spain (DAD), Bilbao and Cadiz, we had photos in the Guggenheim (lots), in the Cadiz beaches (lots) and that was in 2002.

In 2011, I know it´s difficult to make a photo on a roof, but what about the first day? The scene with the two cars, only those photos? Well, yes, 50 more or less, but shouldn´t be there 200 or 300??

Sooner or later, they will appear but understand my surprise...

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:47 AM

I'm willing to bet that EON aren't advertising all of the filming locations in advance. From the sounds of things, they're only informing residents a day or two in advance that they might be interrupted by filming. The actual filming of the scenes is carried out fairly quickly; they they were shooting at Canary Riverside, they spent one day setting the equipment up, the next day filming, and the third day packing it back up. They don't stay in one place any longer than they need to, and by the time people work out where filming is taking place, production has already moved on. On the occasion when extended filming takes place, EON have been preventing cameras from getting close to the shoot (as we saw from the picture outside the Pinewood set). Severe penalties no doubt apply to anyone caught with a camera; during shooting of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, the tabloids were looking to score set pictures of the Siena safehouse, which was built at Pinewood. An interpid photographer tried to get in, but was caught, and he was barred from attending any more filming days or press junkets for the remainder of production.

The only times when we've really gotten anything substantial was when shooting took place in highly-public spaces, like the National Gallery, where crowd control is much more difficult. Even then, Sam Mendes is apparently going to great lengths to keep production as secret as possible - I've heard he's regularly rotating filming crews, and he's only ever giving them a two-page summary of what he wants to happen in order to prevent plot details from leaking out.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:52 AM

@ggl It´s a little surprising that filming in London every day (almost), we had seen so few photos so far.
This is my impression,too.

Regard today shooting,It seems that the scenes they are going to film in Charing Cross require many extras.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:59 AM

Regard today shooting,It seems that the scenes they are going to film in Charing Cross require many extras.


Is it Charing Cross station that we are talking about here?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:03 AM


Regard today shooting,It seems that the scenes they are going to film in Charing Cross require many extras.


Is it Charing Cross station that we are talking about here?


I think so, but I can't say for sure.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:10 AM

Ok, thanks, the other alternative would be the bottom of Trafalgar Sq and the Strand.

EDIT ; UPDATE

It seems that they are in that area, they are filming in a building off The Mall

lots of white trucks parked about the place for filming.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:10 AM

Ok, thanks, the other alternative would be the bottom of Trafalgar Sq and the Strand.

Can you go there during your break for lunch?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:16 AM

Okay, with a little bit of clicking around, I've come up with this theory about the box exchange: it takes place on the roof of the Ministry of Defence in the film.

It would be very difficult - if not impossible - to obtain permission to film within the halls of the Ministry of Defence. However, it would be much easier to get permission to shoot outside the Ministry. Getting estblishing and aerial shots would be easy enough, because it doesn't disrupt the day-to-day operations of the Ministry, and it doesn't compromise anything. However, if the film calls for Craig and Harris to appear on the rooftop of the Ministry, then that is considerably more difficult (though not impossible) to do.

The answer is the DECC. I did not realise (until about ten minutes ago) that it is quite literally right across the strett from the Ministry, and the DECC and MoD buildings have quite similar styles. It would be very easy for production to get establishing shots of the MoD before moving to a set at Pinewood for interior shots (they've done it before) and finishing on the rooftop of the DECC, standing in for the MoD.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:20 AM

I feel safe to confirm that there will be a night shooting today

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:27 AM


Ok, thanks, the other alternative would be the bottom of Trafalgar Sq and the Strand.

Can you go there during your break for lunch?



I’m not in London today – Not back until Saturday, unfortunately.

here is a photo of the Skyfall trucks parked near The Mall today.

https://twitter.com/#!/phileasphil/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2F7q7gcb

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:29 PM

It seems to me that EON is keeping a tighter lid on this production than any other Bond movie in the internet era. I can't recall a film since the 1980's when so little was known about the story line. In a lot of ways that's great, as it heightens curiosity and keeps fans guessing.

Still I wonder whether, in an age of financial stringency, they've decided to save money by stinting on hiring a unit publicist?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:30 PM



Ok, thanks, the other alternative would be the bottom of Trafalgar Sq and the Strand.

Can you go there during your break for lunch?

I’m not in London today – Not back until Saturday, unfortunately.

here is a photo of the Skyfall trucks parked near The Mall today.

https://twitter.com/#!/phileasphil/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2F7q7gcb

Good find. Afraid I can't get there on my break either though. Hopefully more info will surface.

My best guess is that they're filming around Carlton Gardens today, and the Charing Cross shooting is later in the day.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 02:03 PM

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Saw Daniel Craig in the hospital this morning. Rare occasion I get starstruck. Absolute ledgend.

The hospital is "Great Ormond St Hospital".
Trustworthy?

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 08 December 2011 - 02:41 PM.