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[Skudor]

Probably doubling for Blofeld's Shanghai residence.

[Captain Tightpants]

Well, it depends on whether the building is being used for interiors or exteriors. But I don't see why it would be used for Shanghai, since they've already got permission to shoot there, and could easily use The Bund:

[Luigi Ferrari]

Skyfall filming at Department of Energy & Climate Change next week.
http://www.decc.gov....contact_us.aspx

where did you get that detail from?

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GregBarkerMP Greg Barker
Prepping 4 #COP17 at #DECC & discovered filming new James Bond here next week! Sad 2 miss but #Durban genuinely about saving the world.

[Luigi Ferrari]

Caterpillar Inc. to be featured in SKYFALL
http://www.caterpill...&x=7&id=3190320

[Leon]

Skyfall filming at Department of Energy & Climate Change next week.
http://www.decc.gov....contact_us.aspx

where did you get that detail from?

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GregBarkerMP Greg Barker
Prepping 4 #COP17 at #DECC & discovered filming new James Bond here next week! Sad 2 miss but #Durban genuinely about saving the world.

Will James Bond [ie, Skyfall] be making a stand on greater things, such as climate change? I can see it now. Bond discovers M's long kept and hushed-up secret, revealing on some deeper level just what a rapidly declining state the planet is in and becomes depressed, doesn't shave, gets profoundly stoned at weekends and visits art galleries for spiritual enrichment, ideas and guidence.

...which he finds! Just like in the YOLT novel, it turns out that behind it all is a man named Ernst Stavro Blofeld; the whole corrupt show, only now on a global scale. This fires Bond up and he begins getting back into shape for the good fight with plenty of swimming. Tied in also is China, as Bond must first go to the country to whom everyone owes their money and get all debts pardoned to allow the world to move. A younger Major Boothroyd is introduced within MI6 and kits Bond up with a few little cutting edge scientific wonders and knowledge and he's all set to take on THE SYSTEM! [personified, in this case, through Blofeld] *blasts imaginary Rage Against the Machine Bond Theme*

[The Shark]

Skyfall filming at Department of Energy & Climate Change next week.
http://www.decc.gov....contact_us.aspx

where did you get that detail from?

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GregBarkerMP Greg Barker
Prepping 4 #COP17 at #DECC & discovered filming new James Bond here next week! Sad 2 miss but #Durban genuinely about saving the world.

Will James Bond [ie, this film] be making a stand on climate change?

Chris Huhne has had his six.

[Captain Tightpants]

Will James Bond [ie, this film] be making a stand on climate change?

I'd say it's unlikely. There is nothing to distinguish the Department building from any other government minsitry. You don't look at it and think "Yeah, that's the DECC". I think it's more likely that it is standing in for something like the Ministry of Defence, simply because it would be impossible to film at the actual MoD building.

[007jamesbond]

This is what the MOD looks like...very similar

Edited by 007jamesbond, 04 December 2011 - 12:56 AM.

[The Shark]

A new MI6? Special Branch HQ?

[Captain Tightpants]

This is what the MOD looks like...very similar

Exactly. Except that it's the Ministry of Defence - the headquarters of the Armed Forces and charged with protecting the public against terror attacks. EON doesn't just show up and say "Hi guys, we'd like to film some stuff here; do you mind if we take over the buolding for a day?". They need permission to film, and getting that permission would require extensive vetting processes for everyone involved in the shoot. And then, all they would manage to do is disrupt the day-to-day operations of one of the most important minsitries in the United Kingdom. It's cheaper, easier, and less disruptive to film at the Department of Energy and Climate Change and have it stand in for somewhere like the Ministry of Defence than it is to film at the actual MoD building.

[Leon]

Will James Bond [ie, this film] be making a stand on climate change?

I'd say it's unlikely. There is nothing to distinguish the Department building from any other government minsitry. You don't look at it and think "Yeah, that's the DECC". I think it's more likely that it is standing in for something like the Ministry of Defence, simply because it would be impossible to film at the actual MoD building.

Heh, indeed. Though if you re-read my revised post (man that was some quick replying), I think it's safe to say I've figured out the plot.

[Shrublands]

This is the building:



You wouldn't know it was the Department of Energy and Climate Change unless you were told; it looks just like any other government building. So before anyone jumps to the conclusion that SKYFALL will have something to do with energy and climate change, I'm going to get in first and say that I think this will ust double for a government ministry. Maybe the Ministry of Defence.

It’s probably of little importance here, but the building that now houses the Department of Energy and Climate Change is built on site of the original Scotland Yard - but it’s an interesting bit of trivia. (It was once the Ministry of Agriculture.)


You can just see the Blue Plaque in this photo.

[Vauxhall]

As an added (probably irrelevant) note, the Department of Energy and Climate Change building is only a few doors along from the Corinthia Hotel, where the inital SKYFALL press conference was held.

[Captain Tightpants]

It’s probably of little importance here, but the building that now houses the Department of Energy and Climate Change is built on site of the original Scotland Yard - but it’s an interesting bit of trivia. (It was once the Ministry of Agriculture.)

There was the suggestion a while ago that Ralph Fiennes could be playing Ronnie Vallance ...

[007jamesbond]

It’s probably of little importance here, but the building that now houses the Department of Energy and Climate Change is built on site of the original Scotland Yard - but it’s an interesting bit of trivia. (It was once the Ministry of Agriculture.)

There was the suggestion a while ago that Ralph Fiennes could be playing Ronnie Vallance ...

That was my suggestion and seems this is likely because he mention he doing a cameo anyways I see that this could be used as Scotland Yard HQ?

[Captain Tightpants]

Fiennes isn't doing a cameo. He's receiving billing as an actor - he plays a significant part in the film.

[Pussfeller]

Fiennes himself used the phrase "little cameo" to describe his role in Skyfall. Surely he doesn't mean that he's going to appear alongside Michael G. Wilson in the background of some car chase, or that he's going to be onscreen for twenty seconds like Minnie Driver in GoldenEye. But sometimes it's called a "cameo" whenever a well-known actor appears in a relatively brief role - like Burt Kwouk in Goldfinger, Joe Don Baker in GoldenEye, or Vincent Schiavelli in Tomorrow Never Dies.

Or maybe Fiennes was being totally facetious, and his role is actually quite large. In any case, we can't say for sure. We haven't seen the script.

[Luigi Ferrari]

There's a "Bond kind of action" currently in London!Daniel Craig is filming on an office roof today and the employees have just been kicked out for fire alarm!

[Marketto007]

Fiennes himself used the phrase "little cameo" to describe his role in Skyfall. Surely he doesn't mean that he's going to appear alongside Michael G. Wilson in the background of some car chase, or that he's going to be onscreen for twenty seconds like Minnie Driver in GoldenEye. But sometimes it's called a "cameo" whenever a well-known actor appears in a relatively brief role - like Burt Kwouk in Goldfinger, Joe Don Baker in GoldenEye, or Vincent Schiavelli in Tomorrow Never Dies.

Or maybe Fiennes was being totally facetious, and his role is actually quite large. In any case, we can't say for sure. We haven't seen the script.

Well, this is how Ralph Fiennes looks like at the moment, and he briefly talks about Skyfall.



This was last night.

xxx

[Matt_13]

Very quiet, seems like Logan wants mouths shut. Think the press has done enough damage as far as spoilers are concerned. Can't have his own people talking up a storm now can he?

[Captain Tightpants]

Weirdest idea I've heard for a while:

Spoiler

Half a dozen people on the other forums have somehow come up with the idea that the box Bond is handing off to Eve actually contains M's ashes. I think this idea is ridiculous to the point of stupidity, but for some reason, they've all convinced themselves of it.

I guess this is the only Bond-related forum worth visiting these days.

[Pussfeller]

That is bizarre, considering that a lightweight cardboard box with a loosely attached lid is not suitable for fine particulate matter. That's like keeping orange juice in a manila envelope.

[ggl]

Weirdest idea I've heard for a while:

Spoiler

Half a dozen people on the other forums have somehow come up with the idea that the box Bond is handing off to Eve actually contains M's ashes. I think this idea is ridiculous to the point of stupidity, but for some reason, they've all convinced themselves of it.

I guess this is the only Bond-related forum worth visiting these days.

Well, first of all, there are lots of fans that visit other forums and write in other forums (even the same posts), so to search information or comments on the web can be entertaining in this or in any other forum. I also prefer CBN, but I don´t know if the others are not worth visiting...

And, about M. Why everybody, or almost, think about her death? I know the plot, the casting of Whishaw as Q and so maybe Fiennes as M... but I still prefer to think in that sentence "classic Bond"... Is it "classic" to kill a character to replace for another? I could understand the Moneypenny upgrade, but M´s death...? I hope not.

[Captain Tightpants]

And, about M. Why everybody, or almost, think about her death?

I think it's because of the general unhappiness with the way Judi Dench has portrayed M of late. People want to see a new character introduced, someone closer to Fleming, and so convince themselves that it will happen. They've no doubt cottoned on to comments made by Dench a while ago that SKYFALL (then known as BOND 23) would be her last Bond film. Killing her off apparently satisfies the condition of a "shocking" story (I actually find it quite pedestrian - having her conspire to keep certain things secret and stood down from her position would be far more shocking), and prevents her character from returning in future films.

[Shrublands]

They do seem unhealthily obsessed with the death Judi Dench’s M over there.
Every detail seems to point to her ignoble demise in some people’s fantasies.

They see a swimming pool, it must mean that Dench is murdered gruesomely in a pool.
Dan holds a small box, it must contain her ashes.
Dan has a black coat, he must be on his way to her funeral.

All with her disgraced first.

And that's just a few (and without the nauseating detail) - very. very odd.

[Marketto007]

xxx

[Germanlady]

Don't you think, that after (7?) appearances as M - beloved by some not so by others, they would find a more apporiate way to see her go? Put her in a box is VERY unlikely the way EON or BOnd would feel fit to take care of that matter. A BIT MORE respect will be needed and will certainly apllied. IF M dies, it wil be a big affair and never mind, if she was a traitor or not (which personally I doubt. You don't just kill off beloved characters like that.. M - in this film - might have got some past demons hounting her, but - in the end - I doubt, her trustworthy is questißoned or questionable. She is clean . Mum to some, jst M to others, but certainly sbsolutly trustworthy at this point. We all make mistake, when we r are young and ambicious.

[Matt_13]

Weirdest idea I've heard for a while:

Spoiler

Half a dozen people on the other forums have somehow come up with the idea that the box Bond is handing off to Eve actually contains M's ashes. I think this idea is ridiculous to the point of stupidity, but for some reason, they've all convinced themselves of it.

I guess this is the only Bond-related forum worth visiting these days.

I think it's a pretty solid idea myself. The best I've heard, in fact. I think it's a very real possibility. And I wouldn't want THAT to happen because I'm unhappy with Dench. I actually think the way she is depicted in Casino and Quantum is my favorite interpretation in the franchise. I just think she's getting tired of it, and this would be a good way for her to retire from the role, without her character being a traitor. I think a heroic death would be better. We'll see soon enough, gents.

[007jamesbond]

Are they filming today? Anyone would be able to get any pictures...so when are they going to Turkey and China? I think Scotland is February and March?

[Captain Tightpants]

I think it's a pretty solid idea myself. The best I've heard, in fact.

When I'm looking at these meetings on a rooftop, I'm seeing Craig hand the box off to Eve in a way that is ... well, a little shady. The rooftop is a dead end; there is nowhere else to go. I'm guessing that Bond is entrusting the box to Eve so that she can get it out of London safely. I'm thinking events will play out like this:

- Eve thinks she is Bond's equal. She's running around firing a machine gun, but it begins to catch up with her.
- At some point, Eve realises that she cannot continue to live like Bond. She opts out before the villains realise her involvement in the plot.
- During the events of the film, Eve has earned Bond's trust. This won't be the whole "Can I trust you?" subplot, but instead could be something as simple as proving to be competent and capable at her job. For example, she could do something unorthodox but clever, like the way Bond tricked the Quantum members to reveal themselves at the opera.
- After Eve opts out, Bond continues pursuing the villains. He begins to realise that there is a very serious and multi-layered conspiracy going on. As he prepares to confront Javier Bardem for the final time, he comes to the conclusion that Bardem may have allies who will try and stop him. Bond may be able to identify this particular ally, but will be unable to directly act against them.
- The box is Bond's "insurance policy": it contains something that can hurt anyone who might try and stop him; if Bond should die before confronting Bardem, the contents of the box will be made public, and will consequently ruin that person's reputation.
- Knowing that he is being hunted by Bardem's people, Bond turns to the one person who is outside the system that he knows will be able to ensure safe passage of the box: Eve. He hands it to her with instructions that if he does not contact her again by a certain time, she should reveal the contents of the box through the apporpriate channels (possibly Ralph Fiennes or Helen McCrory).
- Once the exchange is complete, we cut to the finale, with Bond arriving in Scotland to find Bardem.