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[Pussfeller]

"Admiral, concentrate your fire on the loft conversion!"

[Captain Tightpants]

It would take some clever camerawork to show the sea adjacent to the manor and chapel since the Brecon Beacons are nowhere near water. It would have been possible at Duntrune, since it was right on the water, but if there is going to be a sea-borne attack, then we would need an establishing shot of the manor in relation to the water. Unless they're filming on the Pontsticill, Talybont or Llwyn-on reservoirs, but I couldn't see any sign of water in the video that was posted.

[Luigi Ferrari]

http://www.thisisbat...tail/story.html

Does Bond film glamorise repatriations?

North Wiltshire’s MP has said the makers the new James Bond film have “paid a compliment” to Royal Wootton Bassett because the movie is set to include a scene echoing the repatriations that took place in the town’s High Street.
James Gray said he saw “nothing wrong” with the depiction in the latest Bond epic Skyfall of the repatriation of eight secret service agents through the town.
The scenes in the movie, which is out in October, were filmed in Greenwich and depict crowds of silent members of the public watching on as a convoy of hearses and limousines drive by, in what is clearly a mirror of the scenes in Wootton Bassett until last August.
But showing something that looks like it could be a repatriation has upset the president of the town’s Royal British Legion, Maurice Baker, who said it was “glamorising” what went on in the town.
“We did it because we felt it was the right thing to do to pay homage to the fallen for what they have done for us,” he said.
“To glamorise it in a film such as that with commercial backing I don’t think is appropriate.”
But local MP James Gray, who attended many of the repatriations himself, said he disagreed.
Mr Gray added: “I can’t see anything wrong with it.
“The fact that it is based on what the people of Royal Wootton Bassett used to do seems fine.
“If anything, it is paying a compliment to Royal Wootton Bassett for what they did. I don’t think it is commercıalısing it.”

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 27 January 2012 - 10:30 AM.

[Col. Sun]

Just a thought - Eight dead secret service agents...

And in the films (rather than the books), and as seen in Thunderball, and I think TWINE too, there are nine double 0 agents.

Could it be that 007 is the only agent to survive a series of assassinations to wipe out all the double 0 agents?

So Bond's out on his own, possibly missing and presumed dead by Mi6, hence his rough, bearded look when he finally manages to get back to London, but not in time to stop a further, bigger attack on Mi6 itself.

Just speculating here.

But the murder of British agents would be a nod to LALD's opening, and we know both Craig and Mendes are fans of that film because it was the first Bond they saw as kids.

[SecretAgentFan]

Sounds interesting to me...

[univex]

Just a thought - Eight dead secret service agents...

And in the films (rather than the books), and as seen in Thunderball, and I think TWINE too, there are nine double 0 agents.

Could it be that 007 is the only agent to survive a series of assassinations to wipe out all the double 0 agents?

So Bond's out on his own, possibly missing and presumed dead by Mi6, hence his rough, bearded look when he finally manages to get back to London, but not in time to stop a further, bigger attack on Mi6 itself.

Just speculating here.

But the murder of British agents would be a nod to LALD's opening, and we know both Craig and Mendes are fans of that film because it was the first Bond they saw as kids.

Yep, I´ve suggested the exact same thing in a thread a while ago. Quite Bondian if you ask me,

[Luigi Ferrari]

It would take some clever camerawork to show the sea adjacent to the manor and chapel since the Brecon Beacons are nowhere near water. It would have been possible at Duntrune, since it was right on the water, but if there is going to be a sea-borne attack, then we would need an establishing shot of the manor in relation to the water. Unless they're filming on the Pontsticill, Talybont or Llwyn-on reservoirs, but I couldn't see any sign of water in the video that was posted.

From my researches it appears they're planning to film some action scenes on the water. It is possible that they are part of the finale:

gordon_low Gordon Low Products
Just sent 400 square metres of SealEco Greenseal off to Pinewood Studio for the new James Bond film!
17 Jan

http://www.gordonlowproducts.co.uk/
"SealEco EPDM (Greenseal) and Butyl pond liner are both synthetic rubber membranes with exceptional physical properties making them the ideal choice for lining ponds, lakes, lagoons and streams".
I understand that they're building an underwater set at Pinewood, probably.

Do you remember I've reported days ago that they were searching for some jet ski stuntman? If there is going to be a sea-borne attack, then they could employ them in that scene.

stevetours Steve Lightfoot
Still rockin out..... Been approached for the new bond movie! pic.twitter.com/o9vvzLRP
26 Jan

Side note:
1.Can someone tell me what Damien Walters said about his work for Skyfall yesterday night on Channel 5?
2.In the new issue of Empire there's an interview with the Bond girls: are there any news, any pictures, anything we don't already Know?
Thanks to those who will give me an answer.

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 27 January 2012 - 11:17 AM.

[Luigi Ferrari]

As usual with a grain of salt

David Atkinson @davidatkinson89
Rumours that the new Bond, Skyfall, will be filming at a prominent London building this weekend.

rognbrow Roger Browning
BTW Celine at Comptoir reports that there will be more James Bond filming around Smithfield tomorrow, Daniel Craig spotters get down there

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 27 January 2012 - 11:25 AM.

[univex]

2.No news in Empire. Nothing we don´t already know. Two pictures of Berenice and Naomi, haven´t seen the former, just the latter, in small scale, up at the empire page. Naomi looks hot! Other than that, nothing special. Oh, and Naomi´s name in the film will make us laugh, or so she says.

[Captain Tightpants]

Yep, I´ve suggested the exact same thing in a thread a while ago. Quite Bondian if you ask me,

Except that JOHNNY ENGLISH also did it.

[univex]

Yep, I´ve suggested the exact same thing in a thread a while ago. Quite Bondian if you ask me,

Except that JOHNNY ENGLISH also did it.

Yes.
(And to be quite honest, the suggestion was first made by another internet user in another forum. So, no kudos for me)
Still, could be done, tastefully. Who cares about Johnny English? I sure don´t.

[Germanlady]

i think, it is rather doubtful, that ALL 9 agents are at the same place at the same time to get wiped out. Of course, there is a slight chance, they did have a meeting, where all of them were needed to attend, but its like they would put all managers of a company into the same plane...

[Captain Tightpants]

Well, I've said it before - I think the eight dead are connected to "Skyfall", whatever it is. From a narrative perspective, I think it offers a lot more avenues for the story to go than if the eight dead were all Double-Oh agents.

[Col. Sun]

i think, it is rather doubtful, that ALL 9 agents are at the same place at the same time to get wiped out. Of course, there is a slight chance, they did have a meeting, where all of them were needed to attend, but its like they would put all managers of a company into the same plane...

I'm really wondering/suggesting something more like LALD. Agents in different locations all being killed off at the same time.

But it's just a long shot idea - probably completely wrong.

Do you remember I've reported days ago that they were searching for some jet ski stuntman? If there is going to be a sea-borne attack, then they could employ them in that scene.

I've always longed for a jet-ski action scene since the brief jet-ski appearance in TSWLM.

A jet-ski sea assault on a castle/manor could make for a spectacular and "classic" Bond climax.

[Captain Tightpants]

gordon_low Gordon Low Products
Just sent 400 square metres of SealEco Greenseal off to Pinewood Studio for the new James Bond film!
17 Jan

http://www.gordonlowproducts.co.uk/
"SealEco EPDM (Greenseal) and Butyl pond liner are both synthetic rubber membranes with exceptional physical properties making them the ideal choice for lining ponds, lakes, lagoons and streams".
I understand that they're building an underwater set at Pinewood, probably.

I don't think it is going to be an underwater set - four hundred square metres isn't all that big. It's about the size of a two-storey house. But I have an idea about what it might be sued for.

Let's just take a step back here. We believe that the Brecon Beacons will be used to film the finale. We believe that finale is some kind of assault on a manor house and/or chapel. We believe that assault involves some kind of water support. Assuming that all of these are correct, then the best place to film would be somewhere on Pontsticill Reservoir, which at 102 hectares is the largest body of water in the Brecon Beacons. As we can see from this photo, it would not take much effort to make Pontsticill look like the open sea:



Now, if that scene were to involve, say, Bond leading a squadron of elite soldiers in an attack against the manor house, then the scene could very well involve assault craft deploying from a warship, landing on a beach or some other shoreline, and then advancing on the house. Four hundred square metres of synthetic rubber does not sound like enough to make an underwater set, but it sounds perfect for making a beach/shore. So that's what I think the SealEco Greenseal will be for: making a semi-water set to film Bond landing in 'Scotland'.

[Shrublands]

But hasn’t the documents registered for the planning application established that the manor house and chapel are to be built on some rather barren open moorland, with no body of water insight?

[Captain Tightpants]

Simple: there is a hill between the water and the manor. Bond picks his landing point because it is invisible to the house and far enough away that the sound will not carry. He (and possibly the assault team) then cross overland to the manor house and begin their attack. A little bit of clever camera work from Roger Deakins, and you would never know that the manor and the reservoir (doubling as the sea) are actually miles apart.

[Shrublands]

Simple: there is a hill between the water and the manor. Bond picks his landing point because it is invisible to the house and far enough away that the sound will not carry. He (and possibly the assault team) then cross overland to the manor house and begin their attack. A little bit of clever camera work from Roger Deakins, and you would never know that the manor and the reservoir (doubling as the sea) are actually miles apart.

In which case, why film the ‘sea’ bit on the Beacons at all? There seems to be no application to film on any of the bodies of water there.

If the careful camera work and editing strategy you suggest were employed, why not film the sea bit in a location where mountains meet the actual sea? Somewhere we know nothing about, yet.

[Col. Sun]

Simple: there is a hill between the water and the manor. Bond picks his landing point because it is invisible to the house and far enough away that the sound will not carry. He (and possibly the assault team) then cross overland to the manor house and begin their attack. A little bit of clever camera work from Roger Deakins, and you would never know that the manor and the reservoir (doubling as the sea) are actually miles apart.

In this day and age, with digital VFX and matte work capable of seamlessly combining sets and exterior locations, it's very possible that the sets/locations of the manor house/castle can appear to be located close to the sea or loch or any other body of water.

[Captain Tightpants]

Eh, it was just an idea. I'm pretty sure that Deakins would be clever enough to film the manor house with water in the background through careful camera positioning and editing, even when there is no immediately-visible water.

The geography of a scene is important. If Bond lands at a shoreline, scales a hill and descends on the manor house, then we need to be able to see it as a whole rather than in parts. Watch the introduction of SERENITY to see what I mean - it's carefully constructed in a way to teach viewers the layout of the ship and introduce each of the characters in two minutes with one unbroken shot, even though the upper and lower levels of the ship were filmed next to each other instead of on top. And it happens again later when the main characters make a final stand: the camera follows one character the length of the corridor they choose, showing us where everything is. Bond needs to do the same thing, otherwise we get the ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE effect. When Lazenby pushes the SPECTRE redshirt off the cliff, the camera angle changes to show the exposed face of the cliff. It's a very confusing shot because it's not immediately apparent what we're looking at. We cannot see Lazenby or anything that might suggest we are actually looking at a cliff face; in fact, the first time I saw it, I had no idea what I was looking at until the redshirt hit the ground. It was only because he kicked up a cloud of snow that I realised the shot as showing his fall.

So if Bond is going to land on a beach and approach the manor house - especially if he does it under the cover of darkness - then the film needs to show the geography of the scene as a whole.

[Shrublands]

Simple: there is a hill between the water and the manor. Bond picks his landing point because it is invisible to the house and far enough away that the sound will not carry. He (and possibly the assault team) then cross overland to the manor house and begin their attack. A little bit of clever camera work from Roger Deakins, and you would never know that the manor and the reservoir (doubling as the sea) are actually miles apart.

In this day and age, with digital VFX and matte work capable of seamlessly combining sets and exterior locations, it's very possible that the sets/locations of the manor house/castle can appear to be located close to the sea or loch or any other body of water.

Very true, but this open, desolate moorland seems to have been very particularly selected. There are numerous spectacular spots in the Beacons with large lakes or reservoirs that they could have gone after but didn't. To me, it does not lend itself to being by the sea in the slightest.

The only reason that the water angel is been talked about, is because the Scottish castle they considered was on a loch and something that its owners said to the press. But they said lots of things that turned out to be just supposition on their part.

[Col. Sun]

Simple: there is a hill between the water and the manor. Bond picks his landing point because it is invisible to the house and far enough away that the sound will not carry. He (and possibly the assault team) then cross overland to the manor house and begin their attack. A little bit of clever camera work from Roger Deakins, and you would never know that the manor and the reservoir (doubling as the sea) are actually miles apart.

In this day and age, with digital VFX and matte work capable of seamlessly combining sets and exterior locations, it's very possible that the sets/locations of the manor house/castle can appear to be located close to the sea or loch or any other body of water.

Very true, but this open, desolate moorland seems to have been very particularly selected. There are numerous spectacular spots in the Beacons with large lakes or reservoirs that they could have gone after but didn't. To me, it does not lend itself to being by the sea in the slightest.

The only reason that the water angel is been talked about, is because the Scottish castle they considered was on a loch and something that its owners said to the press. But they said lots of things that turned out to be just supposition on their part.

Yes, I agree with you.

[Luigi Ferrari]

Do you remember that they replaced the signs reading" Charing Cross" with "Temple" during the shooting at Charing Cross tube Station last December?
I've just found out that they replaced that signs again during the shooting this month and Charing Cross Station will be doubling also for Embankment Station in the upcoming film:

http://forums.thedig...=569470&page=16
You head it here first - there will be a scene filmed in "Embankment".
How do I know this? Because some of the London Underground signs reading "charing cross" are taped over with fake "embankment" signs!

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 27 January 2012 - 03:18 PM.

[Shrublands]

Do you remember that they replaced the signs reading" Charing Cross" with "Temple" during the shooting at Charing Cross tube Station last December?
I've just found out that they replaced that signs again during the shooting this month and Charing Cross Station will be doubling also for Embankment Station in the upcoming film:

http://forums.thedig...=569470&page=16
You head it here first - there will be a scene filmed in "Embankment".
How do I know this? Because some of the London Underground signs reading "charing cross" are taped over with fake "embankment" signs!

That fits with someone saying that Craig was also filmed outside Charing Cross, round the back of the station. That’s where the entrance to Embankment is – they’re practically the same station.

And the photos of Bond with the earpiece show him on the steps that go down to Villiers Street, which leads to the Embankment Tube.

[Vauxhall]

Do you remember that they replaced the signs reading" Charing Cross" with "Temple" during the shooting at Charing Cross tube Station last December?
I've just found out that they replaced that signs again during the shooting this month and Charing Cross Station will be doubling also for Embankment Station in the upcoming film:

http://forums.thedig...470&page=16
You head it here first - there will be a scene filmed in "Embankment".
How do I know this? Because some of the London Underground signs reading "charing cross" are taped over with fake "embankment" signs!

That fits with someone saying that Craig was also filmed outside Charing Cross, round the back of the station. That’s where the entrance to Embankment is – they’re practically the same station.

And the photos of Bond with the earpiece show him on the steps that go down to Villiers Street, which leads to the Embankment Tube.

Interesting. So perhaps the chase starts on the platforms at Charing Cross, before continuing on the streets around the station as Bardem's character (presumably) flees into Embankment and then jumps on a tube train to Temple.

[Shrublands]

Interesting. So perhaps the chase starts on the platforms at Charing Cross, before continuing on the streets around the station as Bardem's character (presumably) flees into Embankment and then jumps on a tube train to Temple.

Yes, I think at some stage Charing Cross plays itself – the clapperboard photo shows a sign reading Charing Cross and the location would be dressed for filming by then.
Of course, it could be the other way round from what you suggest - going in at Temple, District or Central Line to Embankment, outside then into Charing Cross. Craig looks to be going up the steps at Villiers Street. Possibly.

[Luigi Ferrari]

Cnfirmed: they are going to film around Smithfield this weekend:

JohnnyHomer Jon Homer
In Smithfield where preparations are being put in place for filming at weekend....new James Bond film no less.
33 mins ago

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 27 January 2012 - 04:23 PM.

[Luigi Ferrari]

GemmaG_G Gemma Gordon-Gibson
Just found out they're filming the new James film outside our flat this weekend. Does that make me cool? I love #SE1

Smithfield+London SE1 then?

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 28 January 2012 - 01:54 AM.

[Luigi Ferrari]

maysonwhalley James Whalley
Trad. and Evoque Range Rovers featured in #Skyfall, filming again this morning around Smithfield in London..... #bond #jaguarlandrover

rognbrow Roger Browning
Don't even think about driving through Smithfield today, it's all closed off for James Bond filming pic.twitter.com/1ucfVR4F

Edited by Luigi Ferrari, 28 January 2012 - 11:21 AM.

[Germanlady]

Have we had this one?
http://entertainment...-naomie-harris/

"What I loved about 'Casino Royale' was that for the first time in a Bond film that I was actually moved. That was completely because of Daniel and his performance. I think that's what really got people.

"Although I think Sam [Mendes] does want this one to be a bit lighter."

Naomie is delighted that most of her scenes in 'Skyfall' are alongside Daniel.

She said: "My scenes are largely with Daniel, which is fantastic. You never really know until you start working with someone, but thankfully he's absolutely gorgeous and very open and completely down-to-earth."