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Things You'd Like To Be Changed For Bond 23


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#91 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 11:03 AM

3. A new MI6 Building, I'm sick of seeing Vauxhall from the Brosnan movies. Something that's more small office like, such as in CR.

The offices in CR are at Vauxhall Cross.

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 12:51 PM

One thing I definitely want is a better website. Casino Royale's website was inviting and intriguing. Quantum's was bland and just kinda put up there.

#93 Aris007

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 01:02 PM

Yeah, you'e right. And QoS's website was full of problems. I remember I could enter it the last 3 months! :S

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 01:22 PM


3. A new MI6 Building, I'm sick of seeing Vauxhall from the Brosnan movies. Something that's more small office like, such as in CR.

The offices in CR are at Vauxhall Cross.


Yeah, but what about those sterile, inhuman, Minority Report-esque offices in QOS? I know the external shots were filmed at the Barbican Estate, London.

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 01:52 PM



3. A new MI6 Building, I'm sick of seeing Vauxhall from the Brosnan movies. Something that's more small office like, such as in CR.

The offices in CR are at Vauxhall Cross.


Yeah, but what about those sterile, inhuman, Minority Report-esque offices in QOS? I know the external shots were filmed at the Barbican Estate, London.


In a word? Pathetic! I want that door with that leather cover back!

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 04:46 PM


3. A new MI6 Building, I'm sick of seeing Vauxhall from the Brosnan movies. Something that's more small office like, such as in CR.

The offices in CR are at Vauxhall Cross.


Oh really? i didn't know that? do they actually film inside the building?
And I didn't like the MI6 in QoS at all.

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 05:08 PM



3. A new MI6 Building, I'm sick of seeing Vauxhall from the Brosnan movies. Something that's more small office like, such as in CR.

The offices in CR are at Vauxhall Cross.


Oh really? i didn't know that? do they actually film inside the building?


No, I think M's office was filmed at Barrandov Studios in Prague.

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 06:15 PM

CR's website was one of the best official film sites in history. Easily the best of Bond's.

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 07:55 PM

Definitely. I liked the option to listen to the YKMN single, music video, soundtrack and all of the poker graphics.

#100 Guy Haines

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 10:45 PM




3. A new MI6 Building, I'm sick of seeing Vauxhall from the Brosnan movies. Something that's more small office like, such as in CR.

The offices in CR are at Vauxhall Cross.


Oh really? i didn't know that? do they actually film inside the building?


No, I think M's office was filmed at Barrandov Studios in Prague.


We live in an "age of austerity" (allegedly). Believe me, we could be back to Bernard Lee's old style office come Bond 23. And, to be honest, I wouldn't mind that at all. It was a comfortable old world place, suitable for sending Bond off to do battle, or giving him a stiff talking to.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 02:02 AM

You don't want something new?

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 02:13 AM

No. The villains are the ones who should have the cutting edge, post-modern, avant garde architecture. Bond's world represents the stiff upper lip, small 'c' conservatism, of yester year.

#103 Guy Haines

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:11 AM

You don't want something new?

I was putting a bit of real life spin on it. With the way our government over here is taking the axe to public sector spending, in the real world M would be lucky to be left with a small basic office with a desk, chair and telephone. :)

And yes, I don't think there was that much wrong with the first M's office. You could easily add a few hi-tech extras to it, yet retain that small "c" conservative ambiance.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:21 AM

have bond be more than just a ruthless killer.

#105 Aris007

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:23 AM

have bond be more than just a ruthless killer.


For me it's about time we had Bond as nothing else but a ruthless killer.

#106 sharpshooter

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:27 AM


have bond be more than just a ruthless killer.


For me it's about time we had Bond as nothing else but a ruthless killer.

Some say the Bond of QoS is a soulless Terminator. I don't agree. However for Bond 23, now that all the emotional drama is over, I want him to more or less resemble the Casino Royale Bond. Get him back to where he was pre-betrayal. A breezy, school rebel that turns the grit up to eleven when needed.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:40 AM

Some say the Bond of QoS is a soulless Terminator. I don't agree. However for Bond 23, now that all the emotional drama is over, I want him to more or less resemble the Casino Royale Bond. Get him back to where he was pre-betrayal. A breezy, school rebel that turns the grit up to eleven when needed.


No! In QoS Bond was anything than a soulless terminator. He did everything out of anger and not because it was a mission. What I want to see in Bond 23 is something like the PTS of CR. The scene where Bond kills Dryden is the best example of what I want. Cold, professional, non-emotional assassin!

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 11:19 AM


Some say the Bond of QoS is a soulless Terminator. I don't agree. However for Bond 23, now that all the emotional drama is over, I want him to more or less resemble the Casino Royale Bond. Get him back to where he was pre-betrayal. A breezy, school rebel that turns the grit up to eleven when needed.


No! In QoS Bond was anything than a soulless terminator. He did everything out of anger and not because it was a mission.

He is more serious, and there is a personal grudge he's dealing with, but he isn't soulless IMO. He's more than just a killer. He's still the CR Bond, but under different circumstances. I just want him to lighten up a tad from that for Bond 23.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 11:31 AM



Some say the Bond of QoS is a soulless Terminator. I don't agree. However for Bond 23, now that all the emotional drama is over, I want him to more or less resemble the Casino Royale Bond. Get him back to where he was pre-betrayal. A breezy, school rebel that turns the grit up to eleven when needed.


No! In QoS Bond was anything than a soulless terminator. He did everything out of anger and not because it was a mission.

He is more serious, and there is a personal grudge he's dealing with, but he isn't soulless IMO. He's more than just a killer. He's still the CR Bond, but under different circumstances. I just want him to lighten up a tad from that for Bond 23.


Yes, I want some witty lines, but I don't want to return to the Moore-era style. I'd like to see Bond on a mission. I'd like to see some shots in dark rooms, dialogues there, with witty lines and then *bang* -target eliminated- with a bullet on his skull.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 06:47 PM

I don't want to see the cliches added back, but I wouldn't mind a larger scope in the vein of Thunderball, especially if unraveling Quantum is the focus.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 07:07 PM

For got these since my post on this subject


Stop dressing in a t-shirt mid-dark blue jeans and jacket(like in Layer Cake) more of a mix and match in sport coat, dress panrts and either a white or blue dress shirt with no tie(like Pierce Brosnan in Goldeneye when he search the yachet next day in Monte Carlo). Well that way that fit Daniel Craig's look.

NO John Woo style action IF they are thinking about that. That DOES NOT fit Bond at all.

Edited by Syndicate, 26 August 2010 - 10:17 PM.


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Posted 26 August 2010 - 11:09 PM



have bond be more than just a ruthless killer.


For me it's about time we had Bond as nothing else but a ruthless killer.

Some say the Bond of QoS is a soulless Terminator. I don't agree. However for Bond 23, now that all the emotional drama is over, I want him to more or less resemble the Casino Royale Bond. Get him back to where he was pre-betrayal. A breezy, school rebel that turns the grit up to eleven when needed.

Craig's Bond has got the poison of the betrayal out of his system now. That said, he'll never be the same man he was before it. Neither was the Bond at the end of the novel Casino Royale. He'll be the "school rebel" all right, but always with the memory of what the villains did to Vesper and to him. We won't see him brooding about it next time round, I think, but if Quantum is his adversary in 23 or a future film, it will be a motivation, I'm sure. Something that will probably only resurface at the very end of any Bond-v-Quantum story arc, should 007 finally confront the brain - or brains trust? - behind the organisation.

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 09:06 AM

now the pre credit bit is a shorter 5 mins keep overall running time down to 2 hrs.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:01 AM

give bond and the main baddie more face time together for some verbal duelling, a return to the classic battle of wits ala GF.

happenstance, coincidence, enemy action.

Edited by captnash2, 07 September 2010 - 09:03 AM.


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 06:26 PM

I want Bond dressed in suits most of the time, it's what separates him from every other action hero out there.

I want Bond to struggle in his fights. In QoS, there was never a moment where I felt for Bond's safety, he just seemed unbeatable, damn near immortal.

No more traitors.

I want Bond to really enjoy his job.

I want M to have complete trust in 007's abilities and to defend him much like Bernerd Lee did with Connery

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 12:30 PM

I want Bond dressed in suits most of the time, it's what separates him from every other action hero out there.

I want Bond to struggle in his fights. In QoS, there was never a moment where I felt for Bond's safety, he just seemed unbeatable, damn near immortal.

No more traitors.

I want Bond to really enjoy his job.

I want M to have complete trust in 007's abilities and to defend him much like Bernerd Lee did with Connery


Definitely.

I want Bond (and the audience with him) to enjoy his time. Although I loved CR and QoS, I want Bond to now be Bond again: dressed in suits (see Moore: even during his fights he's dressed in suits or Tux), smoking (preferably cigars, as Moore did, but I'll go with cigarettes as Dalton did), drinking (not to get drunk as in QoS plane scene, but to enjoy a nice one), getting on with his job (without any "can I really trust you?" psycho-babble from M), confronting villains through witty dialogues (which means getting rid of the Purvis-Wade plague), etc.

In short, I want Bond to genuinely enjoy. Doesn't mean Bond23 has to go back to being goofy fun as MR, but at least it has to get "Bonder". Let's not forget that Bond movies have, for decades, set the coming trends, not the other way round: Bond movies should not be about copying what's out there on Box Office (trying to be "Bournesque" or "Jack Baueresque" or whatever). They have to be true to the formula of glamourous adventure. Hence the suits, luxurious locations, fancy villains, memorable lines, etc.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 02:44 PM

I want Bond dressed in suits most of the time, it's what separates him from every other action hero out there.

If the occasion warrants it. I do like the rough and ready nature of the Craig Bond. You know, when he does wear a tuxedo, it's one that's stolen. And he's only wearing it to blend in. I suppose that aspect can gradually taper off as his films go on. But going straight to the finished product in any area would remove the distinct charm he has opposed to the rest of the Bond men, IMO.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 03:39 PM


I want Bond dressed in suits most of the time, it's what separates him from every other action hero out there.

If the occasion warrants it.


Well, I'd say being Bond is as such precisely the occasion that warrants it.
As Double O Ego stated, one of the things that separates Bond from other action heroes (say, Bourne) is that he's always stylish, takes very good care of what he's wearing and what he'll have to eat and drink (wonderful lines in FRWL: "Red wine with fish. Well, that should have told me something." and in GF: ""My dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking Dom Perignon '53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit.").

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 03:50 PM

I would like them to expand on the Craig-Dench relationship a little bit more this time.

I am dying to know if she can trust him or not!

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 03:55 PM

I would like to see Bond and M in bed having an argument.

M I don't know if we can trust you.

Bond I don't give a toss. Now, where's pussy. :D