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#1531
Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:36 PM
#1532
Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:41 PM
#1533
Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:43 PM
#1534
Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:50 PM
#1535
Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:57 PM
#1536
Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:13 PM
#1537
Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:20 PM
If by an explanation we accept the inferred apology due to this being intended to 'succeed in the American market', it immediately begs the question, what are we supposed to think about Americans?
Spectacularly, erm ...
#1538
Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:29 PM
#1539
Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:32 PM
It's funny how that teaser art is more interesting to look at than the final US cover.
My thoughts exactly.
#1540
Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:41 PM
#1541
Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:42 PM
You guessed right. It will ship with tiny cameras on all sides projecting the image they see onto a light emitting polymer skin on the opposite side. Invisible to the casual eye!It might have a little more to it "in the flesh." The lettering might be raised or something. Maybe the 007 is reflective. It might actually look really cool.
#1542
Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:59 PM
That's an interesting point, Dustin. Ultimately, and especially in the oversaturated, overstimulated U.S. market, I think branding is what most matters. 007 is the brand. 007 by Jeffery Deaver, that's what this says. Maybe that's what you need to do to sell yourself in market this large, this diverse, and this distracted. And I don't think it's because Americans are any more dim or distracted than anyone else (although they might be). It's the sheer size and competitiveness of the US market. You don't have much time and space, so you better be clear what you are. At least that's what I think. I'm no expert.Isn't the cover pretty much unimportant? I've actually not bought any books in recent years based on the cover. I can't really believe Americans should be that different from us. Sure, some people get attracted by covers and just buy because something appeals to their aesthetic senses. But can that really be a significant number? More than 3 to 5 per cent? I really wonder.
It would be fascinating to listen in on the discussions about what goes into these covers. I think it might be as simple as the smaller the market, the more subtle and artistic you can be.
#1543
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:12 PM
I would suggest the prominent "007" is because that is all the potential readers need to see. This book is not being written to continue the literature Bond for those familiar with it. It is being aimed at new and casual readers - folk who will see that "007" at the supermarket checkout, the airport and the high street bookstore. For good or bad any decent, wilfully elusive and seductive artwork is not only wasted but may not attract new readers. I could be wrong but the Fleming estate no doubt want massive sales (for brand awareness if nothing else). Mainstream novels are about simple character identification shorthand these days - Harry Potter TM, TWILIGHT TM, The Girl WhoTM.... Deaver's book has to compete in that market and mindset.
#1544
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:18 PM
Not for me. Can books go straight to DVD?!
I would suggest the prominent "007" is because that is all the potential readers need to see. This book is not being written to continue the literature Bond for those familiar with it. It is being aimed at new and casual readers - folk who will see that "007" at the supermarket checkout, the airport and the high street bookstore. For good or bad any decent, wilfully elusive and seductive artwork is not only wasted but may not attract new readers. I could be wrong but the Fleming estate no doubt want massive sales (for brand awareness if nothing else). Mainstream novels are about simple character identification shorthand these days - Harry Potter TM, TWILIGHT TM, The Girl WhoTM.... Deaver's book has to compete in that market and mindset.
Agreed.
They need to attract buyers with the brand if they want a chance. No choice really.
#1545
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:19 PM
It would be fascinating to listen in on the discussions about what goes into these covers. I think it might be as simple as the smaller the market, the more subtle and artistic you can be.
Possibly. Shame though that the American market has become so competitive as to stifle anything more sophisticated. I think they could have a little more faith in their customers and their ability to appreciate a decent effort. Anyway, this will probably sell like hell, even if they'd put Mickey Mouse on the cover. A large part will be e-books where the cover is not important anyway.
#1546
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:24 PM
I really think it's about size. And I think they went artistic with the DMC cover. Remember that had the whole wrap around thing going on, etc. I'm not sure that worked. So now the direct approach.
It would be fascinating to listen in on the discussions about what goes into these covers. I think it might be as simple as the smaller the market, the more subtle and artistic you can be.
Possibly. Shame though that the American market has become so competitive as to stifle anything more sophisticated. I think they could have a little more faith in their customers and their ability to appreciate a decent effort. Anyway, this will probably sell like hell, even if they'd put Mickey Mouse on the cover. A large part will be e-books where the cover is not important anyway.
Knew this cover reminded me of something.
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#1547
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:26 PM
Given that people voting in the poll may be judging on the US cover - should we have a revised poll, or a 'Do You Prefer the US or UK cover' poll, perhaps?
#1548
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:27 PM
Again, so people just coming in have the link.So people have the link on this page.
#1549
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:30 PM
#1550
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:33 PM
Can't wait till they come out.
Interesting reading all your comments by the way. Well done to you all.
Zencat many thanks for the updates, links and info herein.
By the way, to us all, let us not judge the thing by its covers. Of course, we all know that one.
#1551
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:40 PM
#1552
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:51 PM
I really think it's about size. And I think they went artistic with the DMC cover. Remember that had the whole wrap around thing going on, etc. I'm not sure that worked. So now the direct approach.
Knew this cover reminded me of something.
Reminds me of the The Man with the Golden Gun, minus pistols. And there's also a Tomorrow Never Dies look about it.
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#1553
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:52 PM
#1554
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:54 PM
#1555
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:55 PM
Hmmm...I'm not able to vote in the US poll. It's registering as if I've voted. If you vote in one, can you not vote in the other?Just pointing out that the poll at the top has been changed. There's the UK cover and title poll and now the US poll. Just clarifying.
Also, no choice for "like it" or "yes"?
#1556
Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:57 PM
Hmmm...I'm not able to vote in the US poll. It's registering as if I've voted. If you vote in one, can you not vote in the other?
Just pointing out that the poll at the top has been changed. There's the UK cover and title poll and now the US poll. Just clarifying.
Also, no choice for "like it" or "yes"?
Ditto.
Pretty funny choices btw, though Not bad and so so are basically the same.
#1557
Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:02 PM
Hmmm...I'm not able to vote in the US poll. It's registering as if I've voted. If you vote in one, can you not vote in the other?
Just pointing out that the poll at the top has been changed. There's the UK cover and title poll and now the US poll. Just clarifying.
Also, no choice for "like it" or "yes"?
Ditto.
Pretty funny choices btw, though Not bad and so so are basically the same.
I was trying to be funny In this case they're not the same. One is good, one is bad, one is so-so at least that's how it should be interpreted.
As for voting, I don't know. Maybe you can only vote once and because I added it to an existing poll you can't vote again? Technically there should be 3 polls. One for the title, one for the UK and one for the US. Perhaps we should just dump the poll entirely and start over with that. I don't care.
#1558
Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:03 PM
I can't vote on the new poll either.
#1559
Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:07 PM
#1560
Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:07 PM
You know what it reminds me of? The cover for the Tom Clancy book 'Dead or Alive'.
To be fair that would require Jeffery Deaver's name to be bigger than the title and in this case... they're about the same size.