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#1051 Righty007

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 03:07 AM

So - is anyone else curious as to what the upcoming news will be that has been rumoured on The Book Bond facebook page? I'm keeping my fingers crossed the announcement of the author of the second novel - as I don't expect it to be the title of the first book. I don't expect that to have been cemented yet, as the novel hasn't even been reportedly finished yet.

Either that or a blurb about the plot and/or the possible locations.

Hadn't even seen that post. Thanks for the heads up!

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:10 AM


So - is anyone else curious as to what the upcoming news will be that has been rumoured on The Book Bond facebook page? I'm keeping my fingers crossed the announcement of the author of the second novel - as I don't expect it to be the title of the first book. I don't expect that to have been cemented yet, as the novel hasn't even been reportedly finished yet.

Either that or a blurb about the plot and/or the possible locations.

Hadn't even seen that post. Thanks for the heads up!


I saw the post, and have been waiting to hear what it is all about. I was hoping it would be known when the forums were back up, but obviously that's not the case.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 02:30 PM

Well, all I said at The Book Bond was there was some "news brewing", but even I don't know (exactly) what this is. I'll check and see what more I can tease.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 05:47 PM

I can't wait curious to see what news it might be.

would be nice to see who the second author is or to see the title.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 05:53 PM

would be nice to see who the second author is or to see the title.

Would be, but I don't expect we'll get the name of the next author until after the Deaver book is released, and JD has already told us they have a list of 45 potential titles, but haven't decided on one yet.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:38 PM

New Deaver interview in the Observer. New details: Bond has served in Iraq as well as Afghanistan and the book will be set in mid 2011.

Also be interested in following up on this statement.

"Well, I almost had to turn it down due to legal issues with my other publishers."


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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:43 PM

Would be, but I don't expect we'll get the name of the next author until after the Deaver book is released, and JD has already told us they have a list of 45 potential titles, but haven't decided on one yet.


When you have that many potential titles, it sounds kind of like a SilverFin. They tried pretty hard to work "Silver" in on that one. I'm wondering if they're doing something similar here. Either Deaver wrote one hell of a book and there's just a lot of inspiration for titles or they're 'forcing' a title or partial title yet again. Lets just hope it has nothing to do with "Gold" (or any other obvious metal like "Silver"), "Die" (or "Kill"), or (because of its recent use:) "Blood". Not to criticize too much here, but those are the most over used or over thought words for use in Bond title which were all incidentally used in a Young Bond title, which is why I have no trouble saying that By Royal Command is without a doubt the best title they came up with for that lot. The most Fleming too.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:55 PM

Deaver has a lot to say about the title. So much I gave it it's own thread here: http://debrief.comma...roject-x-title/

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:55 PM

New Deaver interview in the Observer. New details: Bond has served in Iraq as well as Afghanistan and the book will be set in mid 2011.

Also be interested in following up on this statement.

"Well, I almost had to turn it down due to legal issues with my other publishers."



interesting to see some of 007's background and about the novel as well.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:13 AM

The X-File: Every ‘Project X’ Detail Available in One Location
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:07 PM


"What I'm doing is taking two templates, or formulas. One is taking the very complicated and edgy character that Fleming created. If people know Bond only from the movies, that's just one interpretation. The character in the books is much more complicated. He's darker. He's a killer. The 00 classification, the license to kill, didn't mean he was allowed to kill someone defending himself. It meant he was sent out on assignment for the express purpose of assassinating someone.

It takes a very special kind of person to do that. Now in fact, he rarely did. In some books, he didn't kill anybody. He took a life if he needed to, regretfully. He didn't enjoy it. Which, I think, makes him all the more human. He's a flawed character. So that's template one. And that will all translate into the modern day very well. It's a post-modern character, really.

The other template is my kind of storytelling - very intricate plotting, very fast paced. The book will take place over only a few days. There will be exotic locations - and that's part of the Bond formula as well, of course. It will have a lot of twists and turns and misdirections, and several big surprise endings."



Wow! THis guy has done a lot of job! Two formulas! That's really good! I hope he chooses the first one. And the fact that the story will go on in a few-day gap in addition with the 180 page book makes me feel that it will be very tense!

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:14 PM


"What I'm doing is taking two templates, or formulas. One is taking the very complicated and edgy character that Fleming created. If people know Bond only from the movies, that's just one interpretation. The character in the books is much more complicated. He's darker. He's a killer. The 00 classification, the license to kill, didn't mean he was allowed to kill someone defending himself. It meant he was sent out on assignment for the express purpose of assassinating someone.

It takes a very special kind of person to do that. Now in fact, he rarely did. In some books, he didn't kill anybody. He took a life if he needed to, regretfully. He didn't enjoy it. Which, I think, makes him all the more human. He's a flawed character. So that's template one. And that will all translate into the modern day very well. It's a post-modern character, really.

The other template is my kind of storytelling - very intricate plotting, very fast paced. The book will take place over only a few days. There will be exotic locations - and that's part of the Bond formula as well, of course. It will have a lot of twists and turns and misdirections, and several big surprise endings."



Wow! THis guy has done a lot of job! Two formulas! That's really good! I hope he chooses the first one. And the fact that the story will go on in a few-day gap in addition with the 180 page book makes me feel that it will be very tense!


Aris, I don't think it's one formula or the other - it's both of them, mixed together. His storytelling style, mixed with an updated version of the character/world that Fleming created.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:22 PM



"What I'm doing is taking two templates, or formulas. One is taking the very complicated and edgy character that Fleming created. If people know Bond only from the movies, that's just one interpretation. The character in the books is much more complicated. He's darker. He's a killer. The 00 classification, the license to kill, didn't mean he was allowed to kill someone defending himself. It meant he was sent out on assignment for the express purpose of assassinating someone.

It takes a very special kind of person to do that. Now in fact, he rarely did. In some books, he didn't kill anybody. He took a life if he needed to, regretfully. He didn't enjoy it. Which, I think, makes him all the more human. He's a flawed character. So that's template one. And that will all translate into the modern day very well. It's a post-modern character, really.

The other template is my kind of storytelling - very intricate plotting, very fast paced. The book will take place over only a few days. There will be exotic locations - and that's part of the Bond formula as well, of course. It will have a lot of twists and turns and misdirections, and several big surprise endings."



Wow! THis guy has done a lot of job! Two formulas! That's really good! I hope he chooses the first one. And the fact that the story will go on in a few-day gap in addition with the 180 page book makes me feel that it will be very tense!


Aris, I don't think it's one formula or the other - it's both of them, mixed together. His storytelling style, mixed with an updated version of the character/world that Fleming created.


Perhaps you're right. But I find it really difficult to understand how the hell he'll be able to give us that darker aspect of Bond's character. The aspect of the assassin if the story will be fast-paced. Because he won't be able to get into details about the inner world of Bond. That's why I thought it'd be more sensible if he chose one or the other formula! :)

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:29 PM

Perhaps you're right. But I find it really difficult to understand how the hell he'll be able to give us that darker aspect of Bond's character. The aspect of the assassin if the story will be fast-paced. Because he won't be able to get into details about the inner world of Bond. That's why I thought it'd be more sensible if he chose one or the other formula! :)


I suggest you read 'Garden of Beasts' to see how Deaver is capable of combining the two - that novel takes place almost exclusively over a single weekend (with a few chapters at the beginning and at the end set months/weeks earlier or later) and definitely combines both the fast-paced and darker aspects and allows us to see into the inner world of the main character, Paul. I think it's almost the prototype for Project X.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:44 PM


Perhaps you're right. But I find it really difficult to understand how the hell he'll be able to give us that darker aspect of Bond's character. The aspect of the assassin if the story will be fast-paced. Because he won't be able to get into details about the inner world of Bond. That's why I thought it'd be more sensible if he chose one or the other formula! :)


I suggest you read 'Garden of Beasts' to see how Deaver is capable of combining the two - that novel takes place almost exclusively over a single weekend (with a few chapters at the beginning and at the end set months/weeks earlier or later) and definitely combines both the fast-paced and darker aspects and allows us to see into the inner world of the main character, Paul. I think it's almost the prototype for Project X.


Thanks, I'll see into it! :)

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:26 PM

This just keeps getting better with the more I hear.

Oh yeah....Bring it on!

*glances at calendar then at watch*

Hmmmm...Okay, when 5pm rolls about in my side of the universe, this deserves a scotch.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 12:23 AM

You cats all saw THIS, right? Didn't get as big a reaction as I expected.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 03:50 AM

You cats all saw THIS, right? Didn't get as big a reaction as I expected.

I was wondering the same thing. That's HUGE news and the thread only got a few replies... :S

I was also underwhelmed by the response to THIS. Of course it's not going to get the same reaction as breaking news but NO other website has a summation of every known "Project X" detail to date. It's a great reference tool.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:48 AM


You cats all saw THIS, right? Didn't get as big a reaction as I expected.

I was wondering the same thing. That's HUGE news and the thread only got a few replies... :S

I was also underwhelmed by the response to THIS. Of course it's not going to get the same reaction as breaking news but NO other website has a summation of every known "Project X" detail to date. It's a great reference tool.


You did a wonderfull job thre Chris! It's nice you gathered all the vital info in one place! :tup:

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 01:14 PM



You cats all saw THIS, right? Didn't get as big a reaction as I expected.

I was wondering the same thing. That's HUGE news and the thread only got a few replies... :S

I was also underwhelmed by the response to THIS. Of course it's not going to get the same reaction as breaking news but NO other website has a summation of every known "Project X" detail to date. It's a great reference tool.


You did a wonderfull job thre Chris! It's nice you gathered all the vital info in one place! :tup:

Much appreciated, Aris. :tup:

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 01:54 PM

Well you wanted huge responses not for news, but for the news that is to come. Not a big draw.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 03:08 PM

Good point, OmarB. But some buzz and speculation is kicking up today.

Love The X File, Righty. Going to be fun to watch it fill out as the year progresses. :tup:

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:41 PM

Glad to hear you're so excited GS.

Deaver coming back for Book 2 just isn't going to happen, he made that pretty clear at his signing event. It's not about money, it's about the commitments he has to his other franchises and those publishers and fans. He's booked through 2013. But after that, he said he could very well come back and write another Bond.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 06:03 PM

Deaver's Project X has me excited for a Bond novel in a way I haven't felt since....never. I haven't had a chance to read Amis' or Faulk's contributions yet, and I've missed some of Gardner and Benson's, but I finally finished all the Fleming novels and hope to have read everything else by the time Project X comes out. It's also nice to be old enough to appreciate a "reboot" of the character in what I hope will be a new series of successful novels featuring this timeline and this character's universe that Deaver has created, even if someone other than Deaver decides to continue the novels onward (though if Deaver is any good and the book is a hit, the IFF should find a way to throw more money at Deaver to get him to stay on).


As is so very often the case, Gravity, I agree with every single last word of what you've written.

By and large, I hate the continuation novels. I'm a Fleming purist and tend to view the very idea of other people writing Bond novels as a sick joke.

However....

I'm now wildly excited about PROJECT X - much more, in fact, than I am about the (admittedly distant) prospect of BOND 23.

Why my enthusiasm? Well, over to Deaver himself:

“What I’m doing is taking two templates, or formulas. One is taking the very complicated and edgy character that Fleming created. If people know Bond only from the movies, that’s just one interpretation. The character in the books is much more complicated. He’s darker. He’s a killer. The 00 classification, the license to kill, didn’t mean he was allowed to kill someone defending himself. It meant he was sent out on assignment for the express purpose of assassinating someone.

“It takes a very special kind of person to do that. Now in fact, he rarely did. In some books, he didn’t kill anybody. He took a life if he needed to, regretfully. He didn’t enjoy it. Which, I think, makes him all the more human. He’s a flawed character. So that’s template one. And that will all translate into the modern day very well. It’s a post-modern character, really.

“The other template is my kind of storytelling – very intricate plotting, very fast paced. The book will take place over only a few days. There will be exotic locations – and that’s part of the Bond formula as well, of course. It will have a lot of twists and turns and misdirections, and several big surprise endings.”


For the first time since, well, ever, I think we may well be in line for a Bond continuation novel that's a pretty decent read on its own merits. Also, the modern day reboot has me drooling. I hope that Deaver will take only that which is strictly necessary from Fleming (which ain't much, as far as I can see) and truly make Bond his own.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:24 PM

Going to the Manchester signing next Wednesday. Do people think three items is too many to get signed? One will be The Burning Wire, one will be Garden of Beasts - and the other will just be an autograph for someone?

Would it be worth trying to e-mail Deaver through his website to ask if three things would be okay to get signed?

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:29 PM

Deaver's Project X has me excited for a Bond novel in a way I haven't felt since....never.


Same. Deaver is really excited himself for it, and I think that's rubbing off on everyone else. If the author is so positive about it, then it's audiences is bound to be as well.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 03:50 PM

So, in the new novel..will Bond just have earned his double 0 status or does anyone think that by the end of the novel he'll have achieved it?

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:40 AM

300 days left. :dizzy:

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:35 AM

I wish there was some new Project X news to chew on... :(

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:49 AM

Me too. I'm sure we can find something to ponder.