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[DAN LIGHTER]

Having just read Jeffery Deaver's introduction to Casino Royale in the Penguin paperback, I have to say, it really does look like it's in the write hands at the moment. He mentions that Bond doesn't need all the double crosses, it doesn't need to be complicated. This chap is tuned into Bond, perhaps as a writer he understand the craft more than most of us. He is a best selling thriller writing who has been inspired by Fleming, Chandler etc as a boy, what more does one need?

IFP need him more than he needs them. The mans worth millions, this is a privilege for him, he is excited, as am I.

Just my thoughts.

[zencat]

Good thoughts. Wish I would have recored what he said about Bond's character at the LA appearance because he was really in the zone and nailed it. He just seems to see it clearly and simply. One word he used when describing Bond was "patriotic." That really jumped out at me. That's something that is absolutely true but has been lost a bit.

BTW, something else he mentioned at the LA signing was how much he LOVES his villains (this in regards to his new novel). That is another thing that could make him a great Bond novelist, the desire to create a really great villain.

Only 333 days to go!

[DAN LIGHTER]

Read the introduction is my advice to anyone. I think he is really going to be on target with it Zencat. Might ask for him to sign my copy, depending on the cue size

[zencat]

Hey, I just remembered something else JD revealed at the signing. He said the book will take place over 4 or 5 days. Did we know this? Not sure. I'm happy because with all his talk about a "fast pace" etc., I was fearing just a little bit that the book would be too compressed -- a 24 or 48 hour thing. Four or five days is pretty typical of a Bond story, I think.

[Trident]

Hey, I just remembered something else JD revealed at the signing. He said the book will take place over 4 or 5 days. Did we know this? Not sure. I'm happy because with all his talk about a "fast pace" etc., I was fearing just a little bit that the book would be too compressed -- a 24 or 48 hour thing. Four or five days is pretty typical of a Bond story, I think.

Yes, Fleming's actual plots would most often boil down to that, even with books that spread a longer period.

[DAN LIGHTER]

Do we think he has already written it yet? He is very very busy touring.

[zencat]

No, he hasn't started. He's still outlining. Outline is about 180 pages, he said.

I think he said he spends a good seven months outlining his novels and then about two months writing them. Then lots and lots of rewriting.

[DAN LIGHTER]

I like this youtube clip. Jeffery Deaver talks about how he writes. The research he puts in is staggering! Very interesting.

[zencat]

His entire process is very interesting. Deaver said at the signing that he employs two copy editors to go over his book before he ever sends them to the publishers (and to their copy editors).

I found this refreshing. I actually use/pay two proof-readers (one for typos one for continuity) before I ever send a script into the studio, and people always question this. I just think it's part of being a professional.

Now we just need to find, and infiltrate, those two copy editors. Those will be the first eyes to read Project X.

[DAN LIGHTER]

His entire process is very interesting. Deaver said at the signing that he employs two copy editors to go over his book before he ever sends them to the publishers (and to their copy editors).

I found this refreshing. I actually use/pay two proof-readers (one for typos one for continuity) before I ever send a script into the studio, and people always question this. I just think it's part of being a professional.

Now we just need to find, and infiltrate, those two copy editors. Those will be the first eyes to read Project X.

I don't mind proof reading XBond! Hmmmm, be nice to get a proof of it. Having two proof readers just sounds like he is very through. I personally like that fact that he writes for the reader! xbond will be for the reader!

[tdalton]

I'm liking what I'm hearing so far regarding Deaver's approach to the project. It does sound as though he has a good amount of respect for the project that he's taking on, and that he's going to give it his best, which I find very refreshing.

With that said, as excited as I'd like to be about the project, I'm going to have to temper my enthusiasm a bit because of the last novel that we got. Expectations were high for DMC as well, and that didn't turn out all that great, so I'm hesitant to form any kind of expectations for a Bond novel since we really haven't had a great one in a long time, even when we've had every reason to assume that we'd get one (as was the case with DMC)

[Single-O-Seven]

I'm looking forward to this project and know I will enjoy it, just as I enjoyed every other project, including DMC. Even if later readings and hindsight prove that the book is less-than-stellar, I still have that first reading to look forward to, and couldn't be more excited by that!

[DAN LIGHTER]

I would have thought that more people from the "What are you reading" thread would have chipped in more on Jeffery Deaver. Whenever I browse that thread it seems like their are plenty of Thriller readers there. Which one would expect from a Bond forum.

Anyone read "A Maidens Grave"?

If not then I insist you do. A Thriller set around a hostage siege. He is a thriller writer who just knows how to keep the reader at the edge of their seat. Anything is possible and nothing is predictable in this book. Oh yes, Bond's in good hands!

[Harry Fawkes]

I would have thought that more people from the "What are you reading" thread would have chipped in more on Jeffery Deaver. Whenever I browse that thread it seems like their are plenty of Thriller readers there. Which one would expect from a Bond forum.

Anyone read "A Maidens Grave"?

If not then I insist you do. A Thriller set around a hostage siege. He is a thriller writer who just knows how to keep the reader at the edge of their seat. Anything is possible and nothing is predictable in this book. Oh yes, Bond's in good hands!

Glad to know that.

[DAN LIGHTER]

Wonder if we will get a map or diagram in Project X, like in Goldfinger, and the end papers of Colonel Sun. I like a good map. Sets the scene a treat and is also good for reference.

I have impressed even myself with the above sadness of the above text

[Harry Fawkes]

Wonder if we will get a map or diagram in Project X, like in Goldfinger, and the end papers of Colonel Sun. I like a good map. Sets the scene a treat and is also good for reference.

I have impressed even myself with the above sadness of the above text

You made my evening!

[zencat]

Also in TSWLM and DMC.

I like a good map too. Nothing sad about it.

[OmarB]

I don't know why, but every time I see a map in a book I get this strong fantasy novel vibe. But I love fantasy.

[Harry Fawkes]

Did anybody mention maps? How saucy!

[Captain Tightpants]

I like a good map. Sets the scene a treat and is also good for reference.

On the downside, maps and diagrams can be over-used to the point where the author relies on them too much for the purposes of description. If you've ever read Matthew Reilly's SCARECROW, you'll see exactly what I mean - there are no less than fifteen different maps an diagrams throughout the book, and that's not counting the number of times the author recreates texts within the story (for example, he recreates a series of e-mails) and half a dozen world maps that show where the story is moving (ie when the heroes go from Afghanistan to France) at the beginning of each section. Many of the maps are drawn in top-down and side-along views, as well. So altogether there's about thirty charts, diagrams and maps in four hundred and fifty pages, and sometimes it feels like he's drawn the maps up first so that he can plot out the scene and then included them along with a minimum of description. It gets more prevalent as the story goes on (though the final acts have no diagrams at all, oddly).

He did it a few times in his previous book, AREA 7. But the difference was that most of AREA 7 was contained within a top-secret Air Force base. Most of the diagrams were there to reflect changes within the actual base at the beginning of each section; for example, when the giant aircraft carrier changed floors, or when the base's water supply was compromised and the lower levels flooded. So much happened in the story that it was often neccessary to remind the reader of exactly where everything was relative to one another. But in SCARECROW, it becomes a problem because Reilly is variously showing his characters at a submarine facility in Siberia, a coal mine in Afghanistan, the lower levels of a castle and the cliff-side roads surrounding it in France, an office tower in London, a supertanker, and the movements of various African air forces over Egypt, among other things. It really gets distracting at times.

So if PROJECT X is to have maps, hopefully Deaver will limit the number he uses.

[TheREAL008]

Is there anyway that someone could email me a transcript of Mr. Deaver's CR introduction or possibly tell me which version of CR should I be looking at?

[Righty007]

Is there anyway that someone could email me a transcript of Mr. Deaver's CR introduction or possibly tell me which version of CR should I be looking at?

I've been told the introduction is too long to transcribe but the edition looks like this. I recommend just buying a copy because nobody has been willing to transcribe it in this thread.

[OHMSS Spion]

I've been told the introduction is too long to transcribe but the edition looks like this. I recommend just buying a copy because nobody has been willing to transcribe it in this thread.

Are you sure that's the right version? Cause I own that copy (first Bond novel I ever bought/read) and I don't see any introduction by Deaver. Only thing before the novel itself is a biography of Ian Fleming.

EDIT: Never mind... I just looked carefully at that picture and saw the additional "Introduction by Jefferey Deaver" that mine does not have. Also I saw the other thread which stated that these were released in 2006, whereas I bought mine in 2004. Anyone know if the Bond novels with the Richie Fahey covers and the introductions by various authors were released in the US or were they only released in the UK?

Also, have boards always just added your posts together if you made two consecutive posts? I've been away for a while so I'm not sure if that's new.

Edited by OHMSS Spion 007, 08 July 2010 - 10:33 AM.

[zencat]

You can also buy it on Amazon. Some there are as cheap at .01. Think as long as you're getting the 2006 edition, you're good.

Yes, if you post a second post within a minute, it will combine. After of certain amount of time they split. It's been that way for a year or so I think.

[OmarB]

Check the preview pages on amazon, surprisin to see how many of the pages are sometime included.

[zencat]

Oh, good suggestion!

I've also noticed that you can get a "preview" of books on iBooks (maybe also Kindle) which is the first few chapters. Good way to sample a Deaver book and get a sense of his style, or if they had this edition of CR (which they don't unfortunately) bingo.

[Righty007]

You can also buy it on Amazon. Some there are as cheap at .01. Think as long as you're getting the 2006 edition, you're good.

I just want to clarify that that link is to Amazon.co.uk because the edition with Deaver's introduction was never released in the United States.

[zencat]

Nothing new, just bumping this back into the active posts of the new forums. Just 'cause.

[Righty007]

Is there anyway that someone could email me a transcript of Mr. Deaver's CR introduction or possibly tell me which version of CR should I be looking at?

I've been told the introduction is too long to transcribe but the edition looks like this. I recommend just buying a copy because nobody has been willing to transcribe it in this thread.

Just bought a copy from eBay. Can't wait to read the intro!

[terminus]

So - is anyone else curious as to what the upcoming news will be that has been rumoured on The Book Bond facebook page? I'm keeping my fingers crossed the announcement of the author of the second novel - as I don't expect it to be the title of the first book. I don't expect that to have been cemented yet, as the novel hasn't even been reportedly finished yet.

Either that or a blurb about the plot and/or the possible locations.