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[MrKidd]

Sam Smith - heh, not really

 

Me - yes, I would LOVE to be the next JB but doubt I'll get the part

 

Fassbender - I was the first person EVAH to say his name years ago. Really, I was.  He would be amazing - probably too old/German/Irish /famous/insert your own reason for the part now - but I'd love to see him play the part.

 

How wrong is it to say I hope Spectre is Craig's last? Had enough of him now.  

[Harmsway]

How wrong is it to say I hope Spectre is Craig's last? Had enough of him now.

Well, he's been Bond for about a decade now, which is a pretty long tenure.

That said, I could go for one more Craig feature.

[Dustin]

I wonder if a possible reading of SPECTRE isn't that it is in fact a kind of farewell to Craig's tenure? Well, we'll see about that.

Meanwhile Fassbender is rumoured for the part of Harry Hole in The Snowman, probably with an option on further adaptations. That would probably mean an end to his prospects even if Craig quit right after SPECTRE's premiere. And I doubt he would do that.

[MrKidd]

Thanks chaps - it seems then, unlike race or gun control, that one can indeed have a conversation regarding such an eventuality. At least among the intelligentsia around here.

 

Unfortunately Dustin, I have no idea who Harry Hole is, he didn't keep a diary when he was thirteen and three quarters did he? Let me look him up....here's what Wiki says... 'Hole is a brilliant and driven detective with unorthodox methods, a classic loose cannon in the police force' - oh my god that sounds like Alan Partridges' idea for Swallow! 

Edited by MrKidd, 04 October 2015 - 05:20 PM.

[Vauxhall]

Meanwhile Fassbender is rumoured for the part of Harry Hole in The Snowman, probably with an option on further adaptations. That would probably mean an end to his prospects even if Craig quit right after SPECTRE's premiere. And I doubt he would do that.

 

I'm not going to sidetrack the thread, but that would be fantastic! Interestingly, I always wondered whether Craig would consider playing Harry Hole.

[Dustin]

Very early days to say - on both accounts, obviously. If Craig wanted out after SPECTRE, if Eon wanted to go a somewhat lighter route from there - then they could indeed set their sights on a more 'traditional' face for their next production, maybe opening for one of the younger names mentioned on the pages before, be that Cavill or someone else. I have my doubts but I'm patently the wrong person to ask, they've repeatedly astonished me in recent years.

Meanwhile Craig might then want to play something different but not entirely without opportunity to shine, a role that asks for his talents in a significantly different manner. Hole might just be that role. But - big but - as far as I am aware the Hole project is for the time being on a much smaller scale and I daresay Craig is currently out of their league. I even have my doubts about Fassbender, to be honest.

[Frankie]

Fassbender - I was the first person EVAH to say his name years ago. Really, I was.  He would be amazing - probably too old/German/Irish /famous/insert your own reason for the part now - but I'd love to see him play the part.

 

How wrong is it to say I hope Spectre is Craig's last? Had enough of him now.  

About Fassbender, I can probably challenge you on your claim. I said he would make a great 007 right after I saw him in 'Inglorious Basterds.' Having said that, I am now not a fan of this idea so much. There are, IMO, better prospects for the role.

 

As for Craig, he is a very good actor. But I have never been on board with him as James Bond. He is just NOT Bond to me.

 

 

 

[Gay Bond]

I say go for a relative unknown - that then gives Eon a larger pool of talent from which to pick.

 

In terms of famous names, I can't think of a single actor that would fit the bill, whereas from the unknowns - who knows, we could have the next Sean Connery waiting in the wings. They need to find someone who not only looks and sounds the part, but also walks and carries themselves in a certain way. 

[Frankie]

I say go for a relative unknown - that then gives Eon a larger pool of talent from which to pick.

 

In terms of famous names, I can't think of a single actor that would fit the bill, whereas from the unknowns - who knows, we could have the next Sean Connery waiting in the wings. They need to find someone who not only looks and sounds the part, but also walks and carries themselves in a certain way. 

Totally this. 

[Dom Philpot]

Hey guys 

 

As fellow Bond fans I hope you might be interested in a project I have on the go. 

 

I’m running a crowd funding campaign for an animated comedy web series called Bond Meets World. It’s a sketch show that follows a crotchety, middle-aged, Connery-esque James Bond as he struggles to deal with mundane situations you would never normally see that character in. You can watch the pilot episode on the crowd funding page here:

 

https://www.indiegog...orld-season-1#/

 

I hope you all enjoy it. 

 

All the best 

 

Dominic Philpot

[MrKidd]

 

Fassbender - I was the first person EVAH to say his name years ago. Really, I was.  He would be amazing - probably too old/German/Irish /famous/insert your own reason for the part now - but I'd love to see him play the part.

 

How wrong is it to say I hope Spectre is Craig's last? Had enough of him now.  

About Fassbender, I can probably challenge you on your claim. I said he would make a great 007 right after I saw him in 'Inglorious Basterds.' Having said that, I am now not a fan of this idea so much. There are, IMO, better prospects for the role.

 

As for Craig, he is a very good actor. But I have never been on board with him as James Bond. He is just NOT Bond to me.

 

 

 

 

Then sir, I  agree to split the honors as it was at that time too I formed the same opinion.  

 

It seems disingenuous to be voicing discontent with Craig just prior to the release of what will probably be the most successful Bond movie ever. But for me he never fulfilled his (pinkie) promise of CR. And certainly never displayed the easy charm and simple coolness he had in Layer Cake. I put this down to both the scripts and his delivery.

 

I was on board with Craig from the moment he was announced. In fact, after losing complete interest in the series after GoldenEye, it was his casting that brought me back to the series. I just find it too much effort to get into him these days.

 

Anyway, it’s my problem, not his – I’m just tippy tapping my internet thoughts.  

 

I tell you what though – you can forget about a ‘relative unknown’ being the next Bond – whenever that happens to be. The world is very different to 1962 – we will have heard of him and he will be well known – even if he’s not who we thought he’s be. I bet you 10 bucks.

[Frankie]

Anyway, it’s my problem, not his – I’m just tippy tapping my internet thoughts.  

 

I tell you what though – you can forget about a ‘relative unknown’ being the next Bond – whenever that happens to be. The world is very different to 1962 – we will have heard of him and he will be well known – even if he’s not who we thought he’s be. I bet you 10 bucks.

 

That's why the description "relative" was used, as opposed to "a total unknown."

[MrKidd]

yeah - well of course. The person who is yet to be James Bond will not be as famous as the person who is currently James Bond.   By that definition, I agree, the next James Bond will be relatively unknown. And, by the way, so will the next POTUS.

[Frankie]

Daniel Craig: “If I Did Another Bond Movie, It Would Only Be For the Money.”

 

https://www.yahoo.co...-174901395.html

[tdalton]

I guess we'll really be seeing this thread pick up in the coming days/weeks. Perhaps we don't have to really start doing the whole age-guessing thing, figuring out how old so-and-so will be by the time Craig finally decides to hang it up, since it's starting to seem as though we've reached that point.

[Dustin]

As I said, it's entirely possible SPECTRE rounds up the Craig tenure in such a way that adding one more film would only water down the whole thing - though I think they will stay far away from anything definite. The business is about options and open doors, not about 'finishing' in any way, shape or form. Be that as it may, it's still unlikely we'll see the next Bond film after SPECTRE sooner than 2018.

[thecasinoroyale]

If all these bloody media interviews DC is giving reflect his current attitude, then I want someone with the passion of Roger Moore who doesn't talk about the role and the series as if it's a curse and still has passion and enthusiasm for it outside of just "the contract" they work to.

[Dustin]

They reflect probably what an actor involved in the fourth of these vehicles thinks after a somewhat troubled production: that he's happy it's over and that for the time being he can't imagine going the whole course again. Mendes' comments after SKYFALL were not so far from Craig's now.

It's obvious now that these productions take their toll on the involved people. Up to a point I can perfectly understand how ten years in the role may seem - especially right after wrapping up shooting one - like twenty years in any 'ordinary' role. How many of these heavyweight productions are there, anyway? And for better or worse, the one bearing a large part of the responsibility for success or failure is the guy in the lead role. Other parts an actor gets a script from his agent, he can take or leave the part and in the end even a box office bomb is just one role amongst many in a career. With Bond all that seems to be a bit different today.

And yet... Might have been a good idea to tone down a bit in the Time Out interview. Craig is not that terribly keen on the promotion circuit, never really was. Here he came across not overly sympathetic.

[tdalton]

Regardless of how he feels about it, he needs to conduct himself like someone who represents a billion dollar franchise should. He's making a lot of money to play the part, which means he should act professionally when representing the company he works for. There are people making far less, with far less financial security than Craig, who manage to act professionally at work. The same should be expected of Craig.

[Dustin]

Oh absolutely. I think he's very aware of this fact even. He probably meant to say something along the lines of 'this is it; this is all I've got, we've all tried our damndest to put it on the screen, we didn't hold back one iot of force' - only it all came out as 'leave me alone with it'

[SecretAgentFan]

And every actor's got a PR persona. With Craig it's the "f off I don't care about nice"-attitude. We should have gotten used to it. IMO it's better than someone repeating the corporation approved nothingness.

He will be back for Bond 25 unless SPECTRE will underperform (highly unlikely). But if he quits, really, were the films better when actors returned again and again?

[Dustin]

'It's the film, not he who promotes it...'

[Gay Bond]

So can anyone confirm: is he contracted to do one more film, or not? I keep reading different things.

 

Whether Eon will want him after some of these remarks is another matter! Don't get me wrong - I like his refreshingly honest, no-bs answers - but I do wonder if maybe he goes a bit too far sometimes.

 

As we saw with Pierce, Eon can be ruthless.

[tdalton]

Whether Eon will want him after some of these remarks is another matter! Don't get me wrong - I like his refreshingly honest, no-bs answers - but I do wonder if maybe he goes a bit too far sometimes.

They'll keep him. I think Barbara Broccoli would allow him to play the part into his 60s if she could convince him to do it.

I do think, though, that the efforts of many to excuse Craig's comments and behavior is rather perplexing. As a professional making a multi-million dollar salary, and now as an executive working on the film (since he now has a producer credit), Craig should be expected to behave in a professional manner, period, end of story. His inability to act professionally when conducting interviews and the fact that he's held a certain disdain for the role since being cast is really very off-putting, to say the least.

[Dustin]

As far as we know he's got a contract. But that doesn't mean what fans would often want it to mean, that come hell and high water the next one is going to happen with him as James Bond. Obviously there are a number of obligations and terms and conditions that have to be met, lest one or both parties can opt out of the contract. The most obvious are of course that Craig stays in good health, that SPECTRE turns up a net-profit, that production on BOND 25 begins by a certain date (or a at least a script is developed far enough to get a studio to finance) and so on and so forth. And none of these criteria have anything to do with being ruthless, they are just the necessary terms and conditions anybody in the business has to accept.

[Gay Bond]

As far as we know he's got a contract. But that doesn't mean what fans would often want it to mean, that come hell and high water the next one is going to happen with him as James Bond. Obviously there are a number of obligations and terms and conditions that have to be met, lest one or both parties can opt out of the contract. The most obvious are of course that Craig stays in good health, that SPECTRE turns up a net-profit, that production on BOND 25 begins by a certain date (or a at least a script is developed far enough to get a studio to finance) and so on and so forth. And none of these criteria have anything to do with being ruthless, they are just the necessary terms and conditions anybody in the business has to accept.

I see. Yes that makes sense.

[tdalton]

When it comes to the entertainment, sports, and other such industries, contracts are barely worth the paper they're written on. Just because there is one in place doesn't mean a whole lot. If one side wants out of it, they'll get out of it.

[Frankie]

Contracts almost always have an escape clause. Especially for the final part.

[SecretAgentFan]

I do believe him that he has thrown in everything he could for SPECTRE, so if he does not know any new angle for his work I would applaud him for stepping away instead of having him go through the motions in Bond 25.

[Harmsway]

The interviews where Craig expressed doubts about returning happened earlier than the interviews that suggest he's coming back. In other words: he'll be back.