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[Emrayfo]

Isn't Kit Harrington a midget?

[bill007]

Homeland's Peter Quinn (Rupert Friend) is Fleming's Bond. 

Agreed.  Rupert Friend gets my vote as well.  At 6'1" and dark-headed, he fits the bill.  My wife and I binge-watched all 4 seasons, and the scene in Season 4 when he decks the two guys in the restaurant for laughing at the (rather large) woman sticks in my mind.  There was a point when guy # 2 grabs his shoulder, and Quinn twists his hand and stares at him for a second or two, deciding which way to kill him.  Perfect.

[Odd Jobbies]

Isn't Kit Harrington a midget?

Lol...that tickled me

[bebel01]

Agreed.

Edited by bebel01, 30 September 2015 - 11:09 AM.

[Jim]

 

Hardy has character but he's not sharp looking enough and his ears get in the way

As you might observe yourself, "Casting an openly big-eared actor is a statement, whichever way you look at it".

[bebel01]

Agreed.

Edited by bebel01, 30 September 2015 - 11:11 AM.

[Frankie]

Alex Price.

 

Wot, I said that already?

 

Too bad.

 

Alex Price.

Could you possibly find someone with a weaker looking chin?

For some strange reason my reply to AMC Hornet didn't show, so here we goes.

 

All these actors who were widely unknown until Bond. For instance, until LALD I'd never heard of "The Saint" or "The Persuaders". And "Remington Steele"? Never heard of it until GE came out. And then that David Niven chap - thank Heavens for CR 1967 or we would never have discovered he had a career before then. To say nothing of Peter Sellers - who he?

 

You do have to wonder who writes these "next James Bond" articles, don't you?

That does it, people.

 

Mr. Haines had never heard of those actors, and that is proof that they were unknowns. In other news, Mr. Haines cannot speak Japanese. So we now know the country of Japan never existed.

[Jim]

 

Alex Price.

 

Wot, I said that already?

 

Too bad.

 

Alex Price.

Could you possibly find someone with a weaker looking chin?

For some strange reason my reply to AMC Hornet didn't show, so here we goes.

 

All these actors who were widely unknown until Bond. For instance, until LALD I'd never heard of "The Saint" or "The Persuaders". And "Remington Steele"? Never heard of it until GE came out. And then that David Niven chap - thank Heavens for CR 1967 or we would never have discovered he had a career before then. To say nothing of Peter Sellers - who he?

 

You do have to wonder who writes these "next James Bond" articles, don't you?

That does it, people.

 

Mr. Haines had never heard of those actors, and that is proof that they were unknowns. In other news, Mr. Haines cannot speak Japanese. So we now know the country of Japan never existed.

 

It was patently sarcasm.

[Vauxhall]

One part of the Mail says Craig has a £31 million contract for SPECTRE and BOND 25.

 

Whereas another part says he's likely to leave and be replaced by Damian Lewis: http://www.dailymail...James-Bond.html

 

[Dustin]

Ah yes, the Mail, such good sport...

[Emrayfo]

 

 

Hardy has character but he's not sharp looking enough and his ears get in the way

As you might observe yourself, "Casting an openly big-eared actor is a statement, whichever way you look at it".

 

 

LOL Jim, well played.

 

Alex Price.

 

Wot, I said that already?

 

Too bad.

 

Alex Price.

Could you possibly find someone with a weaker looking chin?

For some strange reason my reply to AMC Hornet didn't show, so here we goes.

 

All these actors who were widely unknown until Bond. For instance, until LALD I'd never heard of "The Saint" or "The Persuaders". And "Remington Steele"? Never heard of it until GE came out. And then that David Niven chap - thank Heavens for CR 1967 or we would never have discovered he had a career before then. To say nothing of Peter Sellers - who he?

 

You do have to wonder who writes these "next James Bond" articles, don't you?

 

That does it, people.

 

Mr. Haines had never heard of those actors, and that is proof that they were unknowns. In other news, Mr. Haines cannot speak Japanese. So we now know the country of Japan never existed.

 

 

Uh, Frankie, Guy Haines was making the very point you then attempted to make...

[Agent 76]

Well Rupert Friend seems like a capable contender for the role, so I wouldn't be surprised if Eon gave him a shot at a screentest.

[Irrigator]

I've always loved the topic of casting the next James Bond. Although Henry Cavill seems like the obvious choice to play Bond after Craig's run, I personally wouldnt mind though seeing Matthew Goode as Bond. He is an incredible actor (just watch 'The Lookout', 'Stoker' and 'Brideshead Revisited' to convince yourself of his range as a performer) and I think he could make the part his own in the same way Craig managed to accomplish this. Damian Lewis seems a bit old (he's 44, which will make him the same age Craig is now by the time he has a chance to play Bond), so I don't buy that rumor.

 

[dlb007]

EON have set the bar high with Craig. When he decides he's had his fill, I hope his replacement is a skilled actor. Cavill, in my opinion, doesn't have the chops. Fassbender, Hardy, and Elba would all be fine choices, but I don't think they'll seriously be considered. Damien Lewis, I think, is a more likely option. He's a solid actor, not overly well known. I can only imagine what the "Red-headed Bond," complaints will be.

Outside of Lazenby, and the consideration of James Brolin, EON have done a impeccable job hiring the right man for the job. I believe they'll make a fine decision with Craig's replacement.

[Frankie]

EON have set the bar high with Craig. When he decides he's had his fill, I hope his replacement is a skilled actor. Cavill, in my opinion, doesn't have the chops. Fassbender, Hardy, and Elba would all be fine choices, but I don't think they'll seriously be considered. Damien Lewis, I think, is a more likely option. He's a solid actor, not overly well known. I can only imagine what the "Red-headed Bond," complaints will be.

Outside of Lazenby, and the consideration of James Brolin, EON have done a impeccable job hiring the right man for the job. I believe they'll make a fine decision with Craig's replacement.

I still shake my head at this persistent demand that whoever portrays 007 needs to be "a skilled actor." James Bond is NOT a Shakespearean role. All the actor needs to do is walk straight, not have a high voice, look good in a tuxedo, and be able to do fight scenes. Bond is an 'image' role. It requires no more than just above average acting ability.

 

Also, in retrospect, many, including I, consider Lazenby a good Bond. His lack of acting experience did not take away from that fact. Sounds like he just proved difficult to work with and that's why he got dumped. It wasn't because he didn't win an Oscar for his portrayal of James Bond.

Edited by Frankie, 30 September 2015 - 06:00 AM.

[Dustin]

Oh, I definitely think there is a bit more to it than just walking straight. However much image the part depends on, there's also the necessity to depict it convincingly. And not just within a purely fantastical context like a Marvel film either. If it was only the image Bond films would be animated by now.

[Frankie]

If it was only the image Bond films would be animated by now.

What?.... What kind of argument is that?! Suave can't be animated. By James Bond "image" I mean a portrayal of a man who is cool, sophisticated and ruthless at the same time.

 

BTW, there is an animated James Bond. Kind of. He's called Archer.

Oh, I definitely think there is a bit more to it than just walking straight.

I agree, Dustin. But as you said, "a bit more" that's why I set the requirement of acting ability at "just ABOVE average."

 

 

[SecretAgentFan]

What exactly is an average acting ability?

 

Isn´t it more a question of whether an actor can bring out more aspects of the character than "being cool, sophisticated and ruthless"?

 

The "average" portrayal of Bond would not, I presume.  Even a "slightly above average" portrayal wouldn´t suffice anymore.

 

By casting Craig, someone who does not immediately impress with his looks, the portrayal of the screen Bond has been changed considerably.  When casting the successor EON will have to look for someone who can offer more than "average" or "slightly above average" Bond.

[Frankie]

By casting Craig, someone who does not immediately impress with his looks, the portrayal of the screen Bond has been changed considerably.  When casting the successor EON will have to look for someone who can offer more than "average" or "slightly above average" Bond.

Some might argue that about Timothy Dalton. Yet they cast the more limited actor, Brosnan, next and the wheels didn't fall off. At least not for "Goldeneye."

 

The reason it finally did was not due to Pierce's 'limitations' in acting, but because EON was again making the mistake of taking the franchise back toward the cartoonish Roger Moore era. Despite Brosnan's objections, I might add.

[Dustin]

By casting Craig, someone who does not immediately impress with his looks, the portrayal of the screen Bond has been changed considerably. When casting the successor EON will have to look for someone who can offer more than "average" or "slightly above average" Bond.

Some might argue that about Timothy Dalton. Yet they cast the more limited actor, Brosnan, next and the wheels didn't fall off. At least not for "Goldeneye."

Depends what you need. Prior to Craig you only really needed somebody who would convincingly turn his face into a grimace in a fight and throw some punches. Even Dalton wasn't much more challenged. The odd serious moment when Bond had to come across as somber deadly instrument was rare and never played out longer.

With Craig now they told stories where just this quality was the main trait because people in his world really died and even when they were no longer mentioned they were not forgotten. That's an entirely different register.

[Harmsway]

Whoever comes after Craig will almost certainly be very different from Craig. Depending on which interpretation they choose, they may not need such a Serious Actor™.

[Dustin]

Entirely possible - if they want to go the UNCLE or KINGSMAN route.

[Frankie]

Some people put down Lazenby, but-  watch OHMSS again - his portrayal of Bond was at least adequate and at best very good. Now if they could do Bond with a totally inexperienced actor, I'm sure they can do it again. That's why I'm more in the camp of finding someone with the classic Bond stature, looks an mannerisms, than a great thespian who doesn't look the part.

 

I'd be a very happy camper as a Bond fan if someone like David James Gandy (see post 1939) is considered and he displayed the "just above average" acting talent that I mentioned before.

 

BTW, since I used DJG as an example for my argument, I must say I checked him out on some Youtube videos and he seems to have the correct voice and accent for the role. Just sayin'...

[Harmsway]

Entirely possible - if they want to go the UNCLE or KINGSMAN route.

I think what we'll see with the new guy is a safe, middle-of-the-road film (kinda like GE), then later films that play more and more to the actor's strengths, whatever they might be.

Once Craig is gone, I think the audience will be ready for something lighter. Spectre looks pretty grim, and I think its follow-up will be grim, too.

[Odd Jobbies]

I'm watching Narcos and Pedro Pascal has something interesting to offer Bond - plenty of machismo, danger etc

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http://www.imdb.com/.../?ref_=tt_cl_t3

 

Most will remember him as Oberyn Martell from Game of Thrones. He certainly owned the screen in that, but it's his role in Netflix excellent new drug cartel series Narcos that had me thinking Bond.

 

He's 40, so perhaps over the hill, but if that's still 4 years younger than Lewis - the latest bookies favourite.

[Emrayfo]

 

He's 40, so perhaps over the hill, but if that's still 4 years younger than Lewis - the latest bookies favourite.

 

Lewis is only the bookies' favourite because punters' ill thought bets are going to earn them lots of money.

[The Shark]

I'm watching Narcos and Pedro Pascal has something interesting to offer Bond - plenty of machismo, danger etc
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http://www.imdb.com/.../?ref_=tt_cl_t3

A Chilean Bond? I can't see it.

[Odd Jobbies]

 

I'm watching Narcos and Pedro Pascal has something interesting to offer Bond - plenty of machismo, danger etc
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http://www.imdb.com/.../?ref_=tt_cl_t3

A Chilean Bond? I can't see it.

 

He's a good actor, but of course he'd need a convincing english accent.

 

My choices are Tom Hardy or Dan Stevens. But with Elba's name being bandied about i don't see the harm in Pascal.

[Emrayfo]

I'd be a very happy camper as a Bond fan if someone like David James Gandy (see post 1939) is considered and he displayed the "just above average" acting talent that I mentioned before.

 

BTW, since I used DJG as an example for my argument, I must say I checked him out on some Youtube videos and he seems to have the correct voice and accent for the role. Just sayin'...

 

Given David Gandy has been mentioned on a Bond forum (something I probably never expected), I feel like I can share my observation that I always thought he and Chris Cornell looked a little alike in some ways, especially the Chris of circa Casino Royale and late nineties.

[Irrigator]

Too bad Jack Davenport is getting a bit too old to replace Craig. He could have been interesting. Check out his scene in Kingsman. Pure Bond (if the producers want to make Bond a bit more posh).

 

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