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[Frankie]

So why didn't Eon hire Cavill for CASINO ROYALE?

The answer, of course, is that Craig was by far the better choice.

By far?!!!.... From all we have heard Cavill was a close second. What worked against him was his youth at the time and that Babs had made up her mind and wanted to see Craig's wiener in the torture scene.

But let's say that Cavill is hired to play Bond in a few years (which I don't think will happen, but this is just for the sake of argument) - won't it be awkward for Eon to pretend that he's their top choice for 007 when they and Cavill and we all know that he didn't get the role in 2005?

No. They can always point to the fact that Cavill was too young at the time. And BTW, as 'too young' as Cavill was for the role, Craig looked too old for a first-mission Bond. Both were wrong choices, IMO, at the time with the notion of a Bond re-boot.

And, yes, I think that Superman will rule him out.

This I totally agree with.

Edited by Frankie, 09 February 2011 - 07:51 PM.

[Jim]

So why didn't Eon hire Cavill for CASINO ROYALE?

The answer, of course, is that Craig was by far the better choice.

By far?!!!.... From all we have heard Cavill was a close second. What worked against him was his youth at the time and that Babs had made up her mind and wanted to see Craig's wiener in the torture scene.

Fact.

[Frankie]

I have a strong feeling that the name of the actor who will eventually be Bond #7 has barely ever been mentioned on this site, if at all.

"Barely" is correct. I have mentioned him. Noah Huntley.

Cavill not getting the part in 2006 does not mean he - for argument's sake - wouldn't get it again. Moore didn't get the role in 1962, Dalton didn't get the role countless times, Brosnan didn't get the role in 1986...

Good point. But Superman is still going to eliminate Cavill from consideration. The only exception to this was Roger Moore whom at the time was identified with the Saint. But, at the time, almost everybody in the world (including myself) considered him the second best actor to portray Bond. Unfortunately he let me and many others down by portraying a clownish Bond. That's why to me, he is always the Saint.

You are right: Bond fans couldn't spot the next Bond if he had an "I'm the New James Bond" badge on and stood in front of them.

You are wrong. I am a Bond fan and I have spotted the next one: Noah Huntley.

[Jim]

Noah Huntley

Are you his mum?

[Frankie]

And I have a lot of time for SUPERMAN V/RETURNS but Brandon Routh is hardly an A-lister hard to cast because of association with that film.

Routh was cast because of his resemblance to the late Christopher Reeve. He didn't do a bad job either, IMO. That the movie was not a big success was not his fault.

[Zorin Industries]

You are right: Bond fans couldn't spot the next Bond if he had an "I'm the New James Bond" badge on and stood in front of them.

You are wrong. I am a Bond fan and I have spotted the next one: Noah Huntley.

No. Obvious and too square jawed. Looking the part is not the same as being right. He is a third rate Saint at best.

And I have a lot of time for SUPERMAN V/RETURNS but Brandon Routh is hardly an A-lister hard to cast because of association with that film.

Routh was cast because of his resemblance to the late Christopher Reeve. He didn't do a bad job either, IMO. That the movie was not a big success was not his fault.

Not saying any of that. I think he is the only well cast element in that film (barring Parker Posey who should have been LOIS LANE and Eva Marie Saint).

Saying that, I would still keep Mr Cavill's phone number.

[Frankie]

Sam Claflin

Aidan Turner

Nicholas Hoult

Are you suggesting these guys or did you get it from some report?

Sam Claflin: Not bad. Has potential when he ages a bit.

Aidan Turner: Has good potential look-wise. How tall is he?

Nicholas Hoult: OMG NO! Height of 6'2" wasted on a baby boy face!

Edited by Frankie, 09 February 2011 - 08:33 PM.

[Loomis]

Looking the part is not the same as being right.

Indeed. So what exactly does Cavill have to offer? Not that I think he even looks the part, mind you.

[jaguar007]

The only exception to this was Roger Moore whom at the time was identified with the Saint.

I seem to recall watching a TV series called Remington Steele in the 80s

[Germanlady]

And now Zorin, your opinion is requested regarding Dominic Cooper, supposedly giving a tour-de-force in the Lee Tamahori(!) directed The Devil's Double.

Not sure about Cooper re Bond. He doesn't have the greatest physical presence in person. He's got an odd look too - good looking but maybe not handsome. Bond should be handsome first and good looking second. If that makes sense.

As a woman, I might add, that i find him incredibly odd looking and not handsome or good looking at all. I am sure, I don't do him justice, but he looks stupid. Sorry...

[bondrocks14]

I'd actually like to see myself as Bond #7



if not me then joseph gordon-levitt

Edited by bondrocks14, 10 February 2011 - 05:48 PM.

[Frankie]

Ah - different Aidan Turner. Not the one with an "e" but an "a". My fault. There are two, you're right. I meant the one that was in HATTIE and the upcoming THE HOBBIT.

You are confusing me now. OK let's look at the other one:



I say he definitely passes the looks test. Strong jaw line and ruggedly handsome. But how tall is he?

Not sure about Cooper re Bond. He doesn't have the greatest physical presence in person. He's got an odd look too - good looking but maybe not handsome. Bond should be handsome first and good looking second. If that makes sense.

Totally this.

Noah Huntley

Are you his mum?

No. But I might be his dad. I don't remember the 60s and parts of the 70s, if you know what I mean.

Looking the part is not the same as being right.

It's not. But it's a hell of a good start.

I seem to recall watching a TV series called Remington Steele in the 80s.

True. But I argue that Roger Moore's Saint was much more of a recognizable ICON than Brosnan's Steele.

[jaguar007]

I seem to recall watching a TV series called Remington Steele in the 80s.

True. But I argue that Roger Moore's Saint was much more of a recognizable ICON than Brosnan's Steele.

UK yes, US, NO

[Zorin Industries]

Sam Claflin

Aidan Turner

Nicholas Hoult

Are you suggesting these guys or did you get it from some report?

Sam Claflin: Not bad. Has potential when he ages a bit.

Aidan Turner: Has good potential look-wise. How tall is he?

Nicholas Hoult: OMG NO! Height of 6'2" wasted on a baby boy face!

I don't tend to follow "reports" - just personal hunches based on a bit of experience.

In a couple or so years time, Aidan Turner will be everywhere. Hoult is shaping up to be a mainstay British leading man and Sam Claflin is a dark horse (well, not so dark come PIRATES IV). Completely early days for them and a need for a new Bond now or indeed in time, of course.

[Frankie]

I seem to recall watching a TV series called Remington Steele in the 80s.

True. But I argue that Roger Moore's Saint was much more of a recognizable ICON than Brosnan's Steele.

UK yes, US, NO

Worldwide yes, US, maybe not.

[Virgosy]

Ah - different Aidan Turner. Not the one with an "e" but an "a". My fault. There are two, you're right. I meant the one that was in HATTIE and the upcoming THE HOBBIT.

You are confusing me now. OK let's look at the other one:



I say he definitely passes the looks test. Strong jaw line and ruggedly handsome. But how tall is he?

Apparently, he's 1m83 (6'0") tall. But he looks too much like an American, so I can't imagine him in Bond. But a great 007 is not only a physical and a height... it's a set of things.

[Frankie]

....., Aidan Turner will be everywhere.

I'm still confused which A. Turner you are talking about. I tried to cover both.

[Zorin Industries]

....., Aidan Turner will be everywhere.

I'm still confused which A. Turner you are talking about. I tried to cover both.

Aidan Turner not Aiden Turner.

[Frankie]

Apparently, he's 1m83 (6'0") tall. But he looks too much like an American, so I can't imagine him in Bond.

Thanks for the height info. I agree he does look American. But a his British accent and possibly a bit of a darker hair can go a long way in having you forget that.

But a great 007 is not only a physical and a height... it's a set of things.

I totally agree. But like I said before it must be the FIRST consideration, IMO.

....., Aidan Turner will be everywhere.

I'm still confused which A. Turner you are talking about. I tried to cover both.

Aidan Turner not Aiden Turner.

Thanks. Then you should perhaps edit your earlier correction.

[Zorin Industries]

you should perhaps edit your earlier correction.

I thought I did. And only one of them is doing THE HOBBIT.

[Zorin Industries]

Looking the part is not the same as being right.

Indeed. So what exactly does Cavill have to offer? Not that I think he even looks the part, mind you.

Ultimately what he has to offer is on the privacy of his screen test tapes, but in answer - extremely good looking in a very contemporary forward looking way (he is very now), he exudes a solitary confidence, he is not massively known but the casting industry is always very aware of him, he carries himself well, comes across as a professional, has both model good looks but can become a particular part visually (most actors are one or the other), he is very Eon, would no doubt be a good ambassador for the role and the franchise (visually if nothing else), doesn't look his younger age, would look great opposite a variety of leading ladies rather than a restricted type, and he is British.

[talos7]

There are some shots of Fassbender in this X-Men Trailer that really show his Bond potential

http://collider.com/...818/#more-69818

[Bond Bombshell]

Fassbender certainly looks very Bondian in the trailer for the new X-Men film. That's not a surprise considering the film is set in the 60s and director Matthew Vaughn has said that he molded Fassbender's Magneto character on Connery's Bond. I hope that the involvement of Fassbender and Cavill in franchises doesn't rule them out. Both are excellent candidates.



Damnn! Talos7 beat me by one minute.

Edited by Bond Bombshell, 11 February 2011 - 12:46 AM.

[talos7]

Fassbender certainly looks very Bondian in the trailer for the new X-Men film. That's not a surprise considering the film is set in the 60s and director Matthew Vaughn has said that he molded Fassbender's Magneto charater on Connery's Bond. I hope that the involvement of Fassbender and Cavill in franchises doesn't rule them out. Both are excellent candidates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y_6m6E-ngI

Damnn! Talos7 beat me by one minute.

Blows the smoke from my guns barrel

[DouglasJ]

Fun fact- Superman Returns out-earned Batman Begins at the box office, yet it is perceived as a failure and Batman is considered a triumph.

I think much of that has to do with production costs.

Batman Begins:
cost $150million
Domestic: $205,343,774
Foreign: $167,366,241
= Worldwide: $372,710,015

Superman Returns:
cost $270million
Domestic: $200,081,192
+ Foreign: $191,000,000
= Worldwide: $391,081,192

Superman Returns did not cost $270million.

It was much closer to $200million, the larger figure factors in all the aborted attempts to get a Superman movie off the ground. Such as Tim Burtons Superman Lives, Superman Flyby etc. If they factored in the aborted Batman films (Year One etc.) then we would have a much fairer basis for comparision.

[Bond_Assassin90]

Michael Fassbender is my #1 choice for Bond 7. I've seen a lot of choices and he's the one that stands out the most to me. The First Class trailer is enough proof of how much potential Fassbender has as Bond.

[Virgosy]

Michael Fassbender is my #1 choice for Bond 7. I've seen a lot of choices and he's the one that stands out the most to me. The First Class trailer is enough proof of how much potential Fassbender has as Bond.

Totally agree with you.

[univex]

Michael Fassbender is my #1 choice for Bond 7. I've seen a lot of choices and he's the one that stands out the most to me. The First Class trailer is enough proof of how much potential Fassbender has as Bond.

Totally agree with you.

Absolutely, just seen the scene in Inglorious Basterds, just after he´s discoverd by the SS officer, when he appreciates that glass of scotch, pure Bond. And he does look the part in First Class. IMO, Fassbender is the only actor who I can see in the part apart from Craig and he´s 34 I believe, not that old.

[Bond_Assassin90]

Fassbender is only 33 years old, 34 in April. Given the amount of time that'll pass once Bond 24 comes out in 2014 (which could be Craig's last) he'll still be young enough for the role. Around the same age Craig was cast as Bond.

[smudge76]

Ah - different Aidan Turner. Not the one with an "e" but an "a". My fault. There are two, you're right. I meant the one that was in HATTIE and the upcoming THE HOBBIT.

You are confusing me now. OK let's look at the other one:



I say he definitely passes the looks test. Strong jaw line and ruggedly handsome. But how tall is he?

Apparently, he's 1m83 (6'0") tall. But he looks too much like an American, so I can't imagine him in Bond. But a great 007 is not only a physical and a height... it's a set of things.

That photo is of Aiden Turner who used to be in crossroads and eatsenders and dancing with stars in US last year. Considering Craig will be 007 for the movie released in 2012 and then is contracted for one in 2014 that would mean Aiden would be approx 39 for the one he could be avaible so he may slip in but i doubt it.
I do think they will go for a younger actor with the 25th Bond movie maybe in there early 30s approx between 30 - 36.

Edited by smudge76, 15 February 2011 - 10:51 AM.