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#2551 junkanoo

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:20 PM


It's interesting when people saying no other franchise had lasted as long...
Godzilla just had his 58th birthday and film #30 in 2014, all either made by it licensed from Toho Productions. Tarzan had a steady stream of 40+ movies from 1918 to 1968 with twenty-odd lead actors and some unofficial versions all based on same novels. Don't even get me started on Sherlock Holmes or Dracula. Bond has had a bigger impact in a shorter amount of time but he has a long way to go before he makes as many film appearances as any of the above.

Not sure I agree with this sir.

Reinventions of a character by different companies for different media does not a franchise make.


Exactly. Lassie has been in a bunch of movies too ... big whoop. The Bond films were all made by the same production company, c'est la difference.

Edited by junkanoo, 11 October 2012 - 07:22 PM.


#2552 marktmurphy

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:13 PM

Just got reviewed on BBC 6music on the round table programme (with Jarvis Cocker, Tony Christie and, er, Graeme Swann) to luke warm positives; but Christie said something interesting. As we know he submitted a theme himself for a Bond a couple of years back, but he said it got sent back unopened. Apparently they don't listen to the ones sent without invitation for the same reason IFP don't read fan-submitted scripts: to prevent the people who don't succeed claiming that the final version ripped them off in some way.

So none of these Bond songs that are submitted by hopeful artists get listened to: presumably only the person who is invited to sing it is ever listened to. That's interesting.

#2553 Shaun Forever

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:07 PM

That's also disappointing, just think of some of the gems we may have missed out on.

#2554 Hockey Mask

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:18 PM

Not really sure how EON would even try to manage taking submissions. Sounds like a nightmare.

#2555 Pussfeller

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:10 PM

I could imagine accepting a limited number of submissions from established artists. But the "artist-first" technique is bound to be the smoothest and easiest way. I just wonder what would happen if they picked someone and were completely dissatisfied with the results, to the point of being unable to use it.

#2556 Hockey Mask

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:15 PM

Then you call it 'Die Another Day' and put it in the move anyway. ;)

#2557 JCRendle

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:01 PM

Skyfall has reached #1 on the Irish Singles chart and #8 on the Billboard Hot 100.

#2558 The Dove

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:13 PM

http://music.yahoo.c...-184856057.html

Here's an interesting article I saw on Yahoo this morning about how Adele's "Skyfall" is comparing, chart-wise with some of the other Bond themes..

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:49 AM

I've just been listening to some other Adele songs, then I listened to Skyfall. And Adele is positively restrained here. I wonder if it was a conscious decision on her part? I know she's been having problems with her voice in the past. Maybe she didn't want to lose it completely?

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 09:36 AM

I have discovered the Adele song since one week. I love it.

It makes a serious rupture with the two previous songs, that of Chris Cornell of CR (which was brillant) and that of QoS.
(Is it a problem if I write the initials CR, QOS like this .... etc ... ??)

In the two first Craig movies, It was like rock, now we witness a return of classic song like in the titles of The World is not Enough or GoldenEye.

I believe this could be one the better songs of the saga.

#2561 JCRendle

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:08 AM

Hey bey-columbo, welcome to CBn. You'll find that the majority of posters here use the initials when talking about Bond films. From the long OHMSS to the short SF, it makes the threads shorter and easier to read.

#2562 Vauxhall

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:50 PM

Adele's "Skyfall" likely to rise to number 2 in the UK singles chart tomorrow, kept off the top by Swedish House Mafia.

Apparently 48,000 copies were downloaded in the first 48 hours it was on sale last week.

#2563 JCRendle

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

Swedish House Mafia? Don't know them

#2564 Vauxhall

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:11 PM

For those interested, this is the song that's likely to keep Adele off number 1.

Don't You Worry Child - Swedish House Mafia

Not sure they've got a Bond theme in them...

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:14 PM

Oh this, I heard this on the radio. Not a fan, too "dance" for me.

and they don't exactly sound Swedish? :S

#2566 Guy Haines

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 06:50 PM

Adele's "Skyfall" likely to rise to number 2 in the UK singles chart tomorrow, kept off the top by Swedish House Mafia.

Apparently 48,000 copies were downloaded in the first 48 hours it was on sale last week.


BBC has confirmed that the SF theme tune is now at number 2. That damned elsuive number 1 still eludes number 007! But, as the publicity for the film continues and with the CD version still to be released, who knows?

#2567 JCRendle

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:17 PM

exactly, the CD release should make the difference

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:40 PM

Nice work Adele! Matching with Duran Duran for the most successful James Bond theme in the 50 year run... brilliant stuff.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:29 PM

Very impressive really. Outside chance of a number 1 if interest soars again when the movie is released. Number 2 is fantastic though.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:57 PM

At first I liked it, but now, I just cannot stand the song. Boring sound, bland lyrics, the backing vocals. I understand it's suppose to equal to that of the classic Bond theme days, which I appreciate, but I just can't find a place in my heart or anywhere else for Adele's song.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

Nice work Adele! Matching with Duran Duran for the most successful James Bond theme in the 50 year run... brilliant stuff.


Yep, Adele's Skyfall is the joint-most successful Bond song in the UK charts. Well done, Adele! Played the song all weekend.

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#2572 MattofSteel

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:10 PM

I love it more the more I hear it. We can argue forever whether or not the nostalgia and general 'expectedness' of the song is a detriment. For me it's a merit, and what makes it so entirely appropriate for the occasion.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:27 PM

At first I liked it, but now, I just cannot stand the song. Boring sound, bland lyrics, the backing vocals. I understand it's suppose to equal to that of the classic Bond theme days, which I appreciate, but I just can't find a place in my heart or anywhere else for Adele's song.


Agreed. Though it didn't really seem that special to me at first either. The problem here is just that however - it is merely TRYING to be a vintage, classic Bond song. It sounds imitation to me, it doesn't sound like a great, original Bond song. It sounds to me ore like the kind of imitation Bond songs you get in modern Bond computer games. The lyrics are just.. whatever, rattled off over yet another standard base of the Bond Theme progression. Listen to it, that's all it is - if you're not very musically literate try this - just hum the basic line of the Bond Theme over this song, in time, and you'll understand that. It's actually more like those really cheesy, lazy *slight* reworkings of the Bond Theme, you know like you get in tv shows that can't pay for the rights? They change a note or two and stay on one of the notes instead of moving to the next. That's what this song does musically.

The difference of composition with something like Goldfinger or Diamonds Are Forever or You Only Live Twice, say, is if you play the basic melody in single notes, it is very signature and recognisable. This is how film composers at least used to write important themes and such - including John Williams. Get just those few main notes right first, then eleborate, and you get something special. If you start composing a Bond song, as I am sure they have been doing for a while now, by just looking at the old Bond theme again and trying to rework some of the key notes to make it 'different', you'll always just end up with something not as good, and often, with the Bond Theme, with something that's difficult to write solid lyrics to without it just rambling on.

Also, the classic Bond songs never used so much vocal reverb and had much better quality drumming and bass - well, instrumentation in general frankly.

Nice work Adele! Matching with Duran Duran for the most successful James Bond theme in the 50 year run... brilliant stuff.


Really? Interesting, never really looked into the Bond song's successes. I must say though, if that 80's power rock cheesefest that is AVTAK is the other one that made it big in the charts it just backs up my disinterest in what the charts say about music. Best Bond song ever IMO is Diamonds Are Forever. Rich melody, lyrics and dynamics, sexy as hell bass line, gorgeous instrumentation and composition. Very tight, very unique and very classy. This one, in comparison, is just generic and uninspired gumf.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:35 PM

I suspect Paul Epworth is mostly to blame here. Despite J.A.C. Redford's involvement, it sounds like it was done on a MIDI workstation. Forget the drums, the piano part is the worst thing besides the lyrics. Hilariously lame, plus the "77 piece orchestra" sounds like a blurry mess. Talk about polishing a turd. Reminds you how sparse and effective John Barry's orchestration was.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

I suspect Paul Epworth is mostly to blame here. Despite J.A.C. Redford's involvement, it sounds like it was done on a MIDI workstation. Forget the drums, the piano part is the worst thing besides the lyrics. Hilariously lame, plus the "77 piece orchestra" sounds like a blurry mess. Talk about polishing a turd. Reminds you how sparse and effective John Barry's orchestration was.


I have noticed a distinct decline in quality of orchestration as well as composition in modern film scores. A lot of scores are generally just a bit of a mess of sounds to try and force emotions using a handful of standard methods. The vibrato cellos for tension (start of QoS and in every Nolan film and countless others) is a good example. Bit they never go anywhere - there's no well composed, memorable and signature theme or melody.

Back on the actual Bond song anyway I noticed You Know My Name AND Another Way To Die just based themselves very blatantly on the Bond theme. There's a shocking lack of creativity right there.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:46 AM

I will admit too, that it is not my favorite. The backup vocals during the chorus are just horrendous and the bridge isn't very good either in my opinion. I would rank it somewhere between maybe 10-15 of the Bond themes. Still wishing it wasn't Adele.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:07 PM

Adele's James Bond Skyfall theme misses top spot


http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-arts-19941564

#2578 junkanoo

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:33 PM

I don't like the song very muich, but I do wish it and Adele well - it would be nice if it got to No. 1 in the UK singles chart to mark the 50th Bond film Anniversary in 2012.


That video's no tonic for such a depressing specimen of the female species - she's still a depressing cow in my book and always will be. Chasing Pavements? - that's what kerb crawlers do. Need I say more...


So, now you wish Adele well? The woman you implicated as a fat cow streetwalker?

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:54 PM


I don't like the song very muich, but I do wish it and Adele well - it would be nice if it got to No. 1 in the UK singles chart to mark the 50th Bond film Anniversary in 2012.


That video's no tonic for such a depressing specimen of the female species - she's still a depressing cow in my book and always will be. Chasing Pavements? - that's what kerb crawlers do. Need I say more...


So, now you wish Adele well? The woman you implicated as a fat cow streetwalker?

Ouch.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:07 PM

Adele's James Bond Skyfall theme misses top spot


http://www.bbc.co.uk...t-arts-19941564


Did I just read that right?

While I don't like the song, it would be nice for it to place No. 1. But seriously, 'Gangnam Style' is No. 1??? I'm quite surprised it beat 'Skyfall'