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[YOLT]

If it makes under 150m$ in N.America I will cut my head off

I think that was unwise!

Pirates and DaVinci had built in audiences and were completely review proof. But I really feel like word of mouth affects Bond quite a lot, and that word of mouth on this one isn't great.

I would love to be proved wrong, I really would, but I've got a horrible feeling QOS is going to drop like a stone at the U.S. box office.

140 million, give or take.

Have a look at this chart: http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

This doesn't look good at all to me, but I'd love to hear why I shouldn't worry.

Unwise ?

To the moderators:

IF QOS makes under 150m$ in US and under 600m$ in the world I want to to be banned.

This is just mathematics, 100m$ for US and 400-430m$ is the target for the world until this sunday.

[Jim]

I wonder - if folk put their energies into being so evidently expert about their own finances as they patently are about those of some film companies, would the credit crunch have happened?

[Bonita]

If it makes under 150m$ in N.America I will cut my head off

I think that was unwise!

Pirates and DaVinci had built in audiences and were completely review proof. But I really feel like word of mouth affects Bond quite a lot, and that word of mouth on this one isn't great.

I would love to be proved wrong, I really would, but I've got a horrible feeling QOS is going to drop like a stone at the U.S. box office.

140 million, give or take.

Have a look at this chart: http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

This doesn't look good at all to me, but I'd love to hear why I shouldn't worry.

Unwise ?

To the moderators:

IF QOS makes under 150m$ in US and under 600m$ in the world I want to to be banned.

This is just mathematics, 100m$ for US and 400-430m$ is the target for the world until this sunday.

Just try not to Jinx this film! I don't get a dime if it makes $600 million worldwide. Wish I did! But, nope. Not happening.

But when people swear that something is impossible, it reminds me of so many disasters I have been told would never happen. "HOUSING PRICES NEVER DROP!" "WITH ALL THIS 401K MONEY, THE STOCK MARKET WILL NEVER REALLY FALL!" "A TITLE SONG BY MADONNA IS A GUARANTEED BIG HIT". You get the picture.

All I know is that I love this film and lots of my friends - who all liked CR - keep asking me questions like, "was that guy in the trunk supposed to be someone from Casino Royale?" "Wasn't M shot in that one scene?" "How did Bond get out of that burning building?"

So let's root for QoS making over $200 mil US. My hopes for $250 mil seem like a long shot now, but, hey, this weekend will tell us more.

Keep dancing...

[YOLT]

If it makes under 150m$ in N.America I will cut my head off

I think that was unwise!

Pirates and DaVinci had built in audiences and were completely review proof. But I really feel like word of mouth affects Bond quite a lot, and that word of mouth on this one isn't great.

I would love to be proved wrong, I really would, but I've got a horrible feeling QOS is going to drop like a stone at the U.S. box office.

140 million, give or take.

Have a look at this chart: http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

This doesn't look good at all to me, but I'd love to hear why I shouldn't worry.

Unwise ?

To the moderators:

IF QOS makes under 150m$ in US and under 600m$ in the world I want to to be banned.

This is just mathematics, 100m$ for US and 400-430m$ is the target for the world until this sunday.

Just try not to Jinx this film! I don't get a dime if it makes $600 million worldwide. Wish I did! But, nope. Not happening.

But when people swear that something is impossible, it reminds me of so many disasters I have been told would never happen. "HOUSING PRICES NEVER DROP!" "WITH ALL THIS 401K MONEY, THE STOCK MARKET WILL NEVER REALLY FALL!" "A TITLE SONG BY MADONNA IS A GUARANTEED BIG HIT". You get the picture.

All I know is that I love this film and lots of my friends - who all liked CR - keep asking me questions like, "was that guy in the trunk supposed to be someone from Casino Royale?" "Wasn't M shot in that one scene?" "How did Bond get out of that burning building?"

So let's root for QoS making over $200 mil US. My hopes for $250 mil seem like a long shot now, but, hey, this weekend will tell us more.

Keep dancing...

Am I Jinxing it when QOS already made 320m$ as of 16th ? You cant compare something that never happened and something still hapennig! QOS is hapennig, in a great way but economic crises began after the comments you have witten.

My question is there any movie in the entire US history that couldnt have doubled its revenue in the first week ? The answer is: NO

Until Friday QOS got 82m$, in just a week. It will pass 164m$ mark mathematicly.

I never said QOS will pass 200m$ in US. Maybe it wont. But 600m$ in the world (including US is qurantee)

[Bond Bug]

I wonder - if folk put their energies into being so evidently expert about their own finances as they patently are about those of some film companies, would the credit crunch have happened?

In my case, No. I've lost half my wealth and all my income in a year and it could get a lot worse. I may have to end up selling my Bond collection!

[YOLT]

"No. 2 was the new Bond pic Quantum Of Solace which was down 69% from its franchise record opening a week ago to earn $8.3M Friday from 3,458 venues. This could be another $28M weekend and new North American cume past $110M (in just 7 days time). Going into today, Daniel Craig's 2nd turn as 007 has made $335M worldwide."

http://www.deadlineh...-twilight-zone/

[kneelbeforezod]

Well what am I supposed to be looking at, exactly? Its ahead of all but one movie on that list, and that one movie made $227 million total in the US. I guess you're concerned about QOS relatively low weekday numbers in comparison with the others, but the comparisons on that list are invalid, because :

a. Both Bourne movies played in the summer, when weekday attendance is bigger than in fall (kids don't go to school)

b. Both DAD and CR opened the weekend before Thanksgiving, when box office is up. QOS opened one week before both those films, so the weekday grosses are out of sync. QOS will have better third week numbers; the only real comparison between the three will be on Mon Dec 1st when we're able to compare QOS' Thanksgiving take to the other two.

$140 million? Ridiculous! It'll have that much by next Sunday. $200 million is not out of the question, but we'll have a much better idea of how likely that is on Sunday when this weekend's estimates are in.

well, you've convinced me! Fingers crossed...

"No. 2 was the new Bond pic Quantum Of Solace which was down 69% from its franchise record opening a week ago to earn $8.3M Friday from 3,458 venues. This could be another $28M weekend and new North American cume past $110M (in just 7 days time). Going into today, Daniel Craig's 2nd turn as 007 has made $335M worldwide."

http://www.deadlineh...-twilight-zone/

69% is considered a pretty big dropoff isn't it? If that holds for the weekend.. well... it's not good is it?

[jaguar007]

69% is considered a pretty big dropoff isn't it? If that holds for the weekend.. well... it's not good is it?

Indiana Jones dropped off 60% from its first Friday to it's second Friday, Iron Man dropped 58% and The Dark Knight dropped 65%.

[mario007]

It looks like we are looking at QOS ending up somewhere between 170-190 million at the end of the US run. It is still tracking about 20 million ahead of CR and 10 million ahead of DAD ... and both had thanksgiving weekends earlier. Yesterday the theater I was at for QOS was sold out ... but it was only showing in one theater (as opposed to 3 last weekend). Teen girls were lining up for Twilight.

Edited by mario007, 22 November 2008 - 04:36 PM.

[YOLT]

Est. $8,750,000
+187.1% / -67.6%
$90,833,000 / 8

These are the figures only for Friday

We passed 90m$ as I said earlier. 100m$ this weekend is just under the belt

[Bonita]

The Friday drop is not terribly good. Madagascar 2 did $63.1 opening weekend and did $8 mil on its second Friday. But at least QoS isn't dropping like High School Musical 3!

Twilight did $35.7 on Friday. Yeow.

Keep dancing...

[DamnCoffee]

From Box Office Mojo:

Domestic: $90,833,000
+ Foreign: $250,197,473

= Worldwide: $341,030,473

There's more life in the old dog yet.

[HildebrandRarity]

It will all come down to the US Dollar as i've said before.

The weak US Dollar in 2006 made CR's overseas grosses bigger in US Dollars than they would be now.

Look at the Pound, for instance. QOS's Stirling numbers will probably be bigger than CR, but translated back they'll be smaller because the Pound has declined hard over the last two years.

[Gobi-1]

With Twilight racking in the money it looks like Bond is enduring the same fate as Indiana Jones 4. Indy was #1 opening weekend only to fall to #2 when Sex and the City debut the following weekend.

QoS box office is frontloaded, that's all. This film is still a big success.

[A Kristatos]

With Twilight racking in the money it looks like Bond is enduring the same fate as Indiana Jones 4. Indy was #1 opening weekend only to fall to #2 when Sex and the City debut the following weekend.

QoS box office is frontloaded, that's all. This film is still a big success.

I was a little worried about the midweek dropoff, but based on yesterday's figures QOS should easily hit the $105 to $110 million level by tomorrow night. With the Thanksgiving week coming up, I think QOS still has a good shot at $130 to $140 million by the end of next week. Then they would be within striking distance of CR levels, and hopefully they will surpass those eventually.

Edited by A Kristatos, 23 November 2008 - 04:15 AM.

[Icebreaker]

69% drop is big but not that bad considering the large opening that it had last week. The total weekend drop will be about 58-60%, which is about the norm for blockbusters these days. Bond will surpass $160 Million in the US. It will end with about $175-180, but if it finds its legs in its 3rd week that could be a bit higher. Numbers next week will tell us more about the staying power of the film, but considering all the holidays it has coming up, it will hit $175 Million no doubt.

Internationally I think it's pretty much a given that its going to break the $600 Million mark worldwide. By the end of this week isn't it suppose to be somewhere around the $400 Million mark in total worldwide? That gives it through December to hit $600 Million, which it will. How high it goes is anybody's guess, but I would imagine it will be around $650-700m total.

-matthew

Edited by Icebreaker, 23 November 2008 - 04:09 AM.

[Gobi-1]

There's always the possibility that QoS box office could go up over the 4-day Thanksgiving Weekend.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

'Quantum of Solace' Passes $100 Million Mark In US

'Twilight' pushes James Bond to second place in weekend rankings

[Harmsway]

There's always the possibility that QoS box office could go up over the 4-day Thanksgiving Weekend.

Yeah. It's not at all unlikely.

[dinovelvet]

69% drop is big but not that bad considering the large opening that it had last week. The total weekend drop will be about 58-60%, which is about the norm for blockbusters these days.

And bear in mind that 69% drop is including the Thu/Fri midnight shows from last week, which accounted for $2.5 mil apparently, so the drop is less steep. Anyway it went up on Sat to around 11.5, as Twilight plummeted on its second day

Internationally I think it's pretty much a given that its going to break the $600 Million mark worldwide. By the end of this week isn't it suppose to be somewhere around the $400 Million mark in total worldwide?

$415 apparently! From Nikki Finke -

No. 2 was the new Bond pic Quantum Of Solace which was down 68% from its franchise record opening a week ago to earn $8.5M Friday from 3,458 venues. But its take jumped to $11.6M Saturday for a $27M weekend and new North American cume past $110M (passing $100M Saturday in just 6 days time). Going into Friday, Daniel Craig's 2nd turn as 007 has made $335M worldwide. The actioner opened in Australia and Spain to the biggest Bond openings ever. So MGM/Sony are looking at an overseas weekend in the high $30sM which will put international over $300M for a staggering $415M worldwide through Sunday.

[kneelbeforezod]

Excellent, $27 million for its 2nd weekend is pretty damn good.

[jaguar007]

Excellent, $27 million for its 2nd weekend is pretty damn good.

Especially if it beat the first weekend of a new kiddie film

But lets remember, these are still EARLY estimates

[Bonita]

Estimate for the second weekend is $27.4 million.

This is a drop of 59.4%, and just an estimate.

For reference, Madagascar 2 dropped 44.5% its second weekend (pulling in $35 mil) and 54.3% est. this weekend.

By the estimates, Bond beats Bolt by a narrow margin.

What this means:

QoS continues to drop faster than anyone would like, but the numbers are still good.

Casino Royale, by comparison, did $30.78 million on its second (T'day holiday) weekend. So will Quantum hold on and do another $27 million over Thanksgiving holiday period (and about $4M on Mon & Tues).

Right now, Domestic gross is $109 million est. If it does what it should over Thanksgiving, that puts it at roughly $140M, a good position to bust CR's $167.4 total, but very difficult to see it breaking much over $200, if even that.

Keep dancing....

(all estimates from Box Office Mojo)

[Johnboy007]

Later this afternoon my roommate and I will do our part to boost the box office numbers.

[The ides of Mark]

Right now, Domestic gross is $109 million est. If it does what it should over Thanksgiving, that puts it at roughly $140M, a good position to bust CR's $167.4 total

I feel it will. On top of that I'm very curious how QoS opened in Spain and Japan (both huge markets). In Europe the film will hold a strong position the next few weeks. Should be enough to outgross CR worldwide.
For a moment I was concerned it wouldn't do so well, since it's not your typical blockbuster/crowdpleaser. Get going with the next one, EON!

Edited by The ides of Mark, 23 November 2008 - 06:19 PM.

[mario007]

I hope it does good over thankgiving weekend and get closer to $200 million as it can ... still fingers crossed. Realistically, it's US gross will be somewhere between $170 to $180 million ... agree? disagree?

P.S. If this movie does not break $200 million in the US will it be seen as a dissapointment?

Edited by mario007, 23 November 2008 - 06:20 PM.

[kneelbeforezod]

Okay so the film is doing fine but... that second weekend is dropoff is much steeper than CR's. QOS is declining faster. I think it won't break 150m. Do we agree that word of mouth for this film isn't great?

[Born_again_Bond]

Latest box office figures from Variety - 23rd November

http://www.variety.c...5...yid=13&cs=1

According to this, it is running at $309 milliion worldwide.

[Born_again_Bond]

Latest box office figures from Variety - 23rd November

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111799635...yid=13&cs=1


These do seem lower than figures elsewhere though.

FWIW.....I went yesterday to see it for the 3rd time. It was the lunchtime showing, (12:45) usually anything showing, no matter how popular, is 1/2 empty at that time, and there was still a respectable turnout.

[CaptainPower]

"Quantum of Solace had a decent second weekend, earning an estimated $27.4 million, and topping $100 million in nine days -- a franchise record."

I'd say thats pretty respectable