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[mario007]

bonita youre in luck ... I am going to see it again this weekend ... I am trying to drag my brother-in-law this weekend with me! I am running out of friends to take! LOL! sorry bondbug ... at least the Canadian contribution to the US box office will be higher by $20! FYI, Canadian's love QOS and we contributed $7.64M last weekend, #1 in Canada eh!

Edited by mario007, 21 November 2008 - 12:12 AM.

[Bond Bug]

bonita youre in luck ... I am going to see it again this weekend ... I am trying to drag my brother-in-law this weekend with me! I am running out of friends to take! LOL! sorry bondbug ... at least the Canadian contribution to the US box office will be higher by $20! FYI, Canadian's love QOS and we contributed $7.64M last weekend, #1 in Canada eh!

You are getting me worried. Why not see it on Monday? Less crowded!

[5 BONDS]

I don't believe QoS will surpass Casino Royale at the box office in the U.S as the numbers have dropped so drastically. I have never seen such a quick turn around for a movie in a long time.

We will have to count on the international market for the chances of a decent box office hit.


Good luck to QoS.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

So, you've been conducting a study into the drop off? Or is that exclamation point in the topic title meant to be a question mark?

[Elvenstar]

We already have a topic about US BO.
Why do this panic thing again?
Even if it won't be as succesful as CR (which I doubt) in US, we still have international auds.

[Jim]

Topics merged, so everyone can express their glee in the one place.

[Elvenstar]

Strange, this night I had a dream about Qos getting 18 mil $ this US weekend. Maybe I pretend not to care but actually this thoughts about BO sitting inside my head.

Fan polls here and at MI6 have most (75% to 80%) of Bond fans rating QOS at least 7/10. I think what your reading is an extremely vocal minority, most fans are middle of the road on QOS.

I didnt mean Bond fans. Maybe we're just more loyal.

Actually, its score on RottenTomatoes is highest among regular people, lower among critics, and substantially lower among "cream of the crop" critics.
On BoxOfficeMojo, it has a grade of B, lower only than CR and Goldfinger (both B+). In fact, almost every Bond film has a grade of B on BOM.
On IMDB, it's currently at 7.2/10. CR has the highest average rating at 8.0/10, with most Bond films below 7.0/10.
I think the WOM seems bad because everyone's comparing it to CR, which had unusually good WOM, and the negative voices are always the loudest, as anyone who remembers the run-up to CR can attest to.

Again I meant just general public on other movie forums, mainly russian. Again in this case mentality is the key of understanding (it's rather significant even in terms of BO). People here expect to be entertained by blockbusters. And to be forced to think by dramas and art house (By the way Dark Knight grossed here even less than CR). That's why critics are mostly pleased ("good movie but not as CR"). They are able to dig, analyze and find the themes that Qos is full of. But general public is clearly dissappointed that Bond became more than just.......errrr "a Bond movie". Moreover all the sh****t is put on Dan's shoulders. All the Brosnan and Bourne fans crawl out to the surface like worms after the rain and start their usual "we told you so. he's ugly, blond, old etc etc etc CR was just luck and all of this because of Campbell. Get Clive Owen/Butler better". And sometimes Im ready to give up and just want to get a stupid cheesy flick with all cliches included.
Anyway Im used to being in the minority as a POTC fan and a fan of such failures as Torque and Beverly Hills Ninja

Edited by Elvenstar, 21 November 2008 - 08:26 AM.

[blueman]

Aw, cheer up emo boy. Even if QOS does only $18 mil this weekend, there's still Beverly Hills Ninja on DVD. The week-two numbers in other countries tell me the drop won't be that severe, but who knows?

[dinovelvet]

I don't believe QoS will surpass Casino Royale at the box office in the U.S as the numbers have dropped so drastically.

Well then you are a fool, Sir.

I have never seen such a quick turn around for a movie in a long time.

LOL. Then apparently you were born three weeks ago, because the minor midweek dropoff of QOS is nothing, compared to the likes of Saw V and High School Musical.

[5 BONDS]

I don't believe QoS will surpass Casino Royale at the box office in the U.S as the numbers have dropped so drastically.

Well then you are a fool, Sir.

I have never seen such a quick turn around for a movie in a long time.

LOL. Then apparently you were born three weeks ago, because the minor midweek dropoff of QOS is nothing, compared to the likes of Saw V and High School Musical.

Remember Bond is a different kind of fish...more a blockbuster than those films mentioned. Films like Bond should keep a steady pace at the box office akin to the likes of Batman, Indiana Jones.

Frankly just admit it Bond is not big in the U.S. so please stop denying that. We all know that. The only way Bond will be big is if an American actor plays Bond one day.

Edited by 5 BONDS, 21 November 2008 - 12:20 PM.

[Bond Bug]

I don't believe QoS will surpass Casino Royale at the box office in the U.S as the numbers have dropped so drastically.

Well then you are a fool, Sir.

I have never seen such a quick turn around for a movie in a long time.

LOL. Then apparently you were born three weeks ago, because the minor midweek dropoff of QOS is nothing, compared to the likes of Saw V and High School Musical.

Remember Bond is a different kind of fish...more a blockbuster than those films mentioned. Films like Bond should keep a steady pace at the box office akin to the likes of Batman, Indiana Jones.

Frankly just admit it Bond is not big in the U.S. so please stop denying that. We all know that. The only way Bond will be big is if an American actor plays Bond one day.

Or let Spielberg direct one movie and have Tom Hanks or Will Smith play a villain.

It would be expensive - so why not let Spielberg co-produce it - one movie only as an inducement.

It would raise interest in the film among Americans massively and could turn the movie into a 300m dollar blockbuster in USA and what a shot in the arm for the next movies.

[mario007]

If this is an accurate indication, its not looking good for you bondbug ... from box office mojo;

What is your top choice to see this weekend (Nov. 21-23)?
29.1% Quantum of Solace
26.0% Twilight
15.7% Bolt
11.2% No interest this weekend.
3.2% Role Models
2.9% Other
2.8% Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
2.7% Changeling
2.3% Zack and Miri Make a pørno
1.1% Eagle Eye
0.9% Fireproof
0.9% High School Musical 3: Senior Year
0.8% Saw V
0.2% Soul Men
0.2% The Secret Life of Bees
0.1% Beverly Hills Chihuahua
0.1% The Haunting of Molly Hartley

Edited by mario007, 21 November 2008 - 04:37 PM.

[HellIsHere]

Easy explanation, the audience predicted for Twilight (girls!) and Bolt (kids!) don't even know what BoxOfficeMojo is!!!!!!!!!!!

[avl]

Easy explanation, the audience predicted for Twilight (girls!) and Bolt (kids!) don't even know what BoxOfficeMojo is!!!!!!!!!!!

Which leaves the adults looking for a good action thriller...

[YOLT]

I don't believe QoS will surpass Casino Royale at the box office in the U.S as the numbers have dropped so drastically. I have never seen such a quick turn around for a movie in a long time.

We will have to count on the international market for the chances of a decent box office hit.


Good luck to QoS.

Tonight it will pass 90m$. I am sure about that. Within a week and a day it will pass %50 of CR easily. I am sure it will make more than 167m$.

And by the end of this Sunday I am sure that we will reach 450m$+.

Am I too optimistic

[Publius]

This is the situation in North America

It opened to the 38th biggest weekend

For the first seven days it will be at around number 54

How does that sound when compared to the biggest ever opening in UK and smashed records in many other territories?

That sounds like Bond, which for years has been nothing special in the US but a box office giant everywhere else.

"Chilling"...? Bit dramatic there, I think. CR's first Monday and Tuesday were in Thanksgiving week, so its an unfair comparison. Many people just take the whole week off, or have an extremely light/reduced work schedule = movies do better during that Mon/Tue/Wed than any other average week. In addition, groups of friends and families tend to "save" movies for the Thanksgiving period when they can all see them together.

Its just basic box office wisdom; take any two films, and more often than not, whichever one opened bigger, tends to drop faster. CR had an EXTREMELY unusual path for a blockbuster, starting with "only" $40 million and ending up with $167. Think of QOS as the hare, and CR as the tortoise, but QOS will actually win...

Agreed. It's apples and oranges until we get past Thanksgiving weekend. And even then we still have to watch out for direct comparisons when Christmas and New Year's roll around. I remember this was an issue when comparing CR to DAD, which ran into the holidays at different points in their release.

I don't believe QoS will surpass Casino Royale at the box office in the U.S as the numbers have dropped so drastically. I have never seen such a quick turn around for a movie in a long time.

You think QoS made 40% (or more!) of its total in its opening weekend? Not even critically panned (which QoS isn't), extremely front-loaded (which QoS isn't) blockbusters like the last two Pirates of the Caribbean movies or The Da Vinci Code had such dismal legs.

Face it: any objective analysis leads one to conclude that QoS will beat CR at the US box office. $200 million is still up in the air, but odds are probably better than 50-50.

Again I meant just general public on other movie forums,

And movie forums are a horribly unreliable indicator of what the general public thinks. Even rating websites like IMDB, BOM, and RT give you a better idea, but they still paint an imperfect picture of what the masses think.

[Loomis]

Face it: any objective analysis leads one to conclude that QoS will beat CR at the US box office. $200 million is still up in the air, but odds are probably better than 50-50.

Are you sure? Box Office Mojo is currently reporting QUANTUM's Stateside haul as some $79 million. I wonder whether it'll even end up doing $100 million.

[YOLT]

Face it: any objective analysis leads one to conclude that QoS will beat CR at the US box office. $200 million is still up in the air, but odds are probably better than 50-50.

Are you sure? Box Office Mojo is currently reporting QUANTUM's Stateside haul as some $79 million. I wonder whether it'll even end up doing $100 million.

100m$ Are you joking ? You mean end of this Sunday dont you...

Even if makes 7m$ each of Friday, Saturday and Sunday it will pass 100m$, just on this weekend.

If it makes under 150m$ in N.America I will cut my head off

[Harmsway]

Face it: any objective analysis leads one to conclude that QoS will beat CR at the US box office. $200 million is still up in the air, but odds are probably better than 50-50.

Are you sure? Box Office Mojo is currently reporting QUANTUM's Stateside haul as some $79 million. I wonder whether it'll even end up doing $100 million.

There's no reason to suspect that QUANTUM will do under $100 million in the USA. It might not have the legs CASINO ROYALE did, but it's going to get a big boost at Thanksgiving. I would be surprised if it doesn't cross the $100 million barrier this weekend.

[DR76]

Frankly just admit it Bond is not big in the U.S. so please stop denying that. We all know that. The only way Bond will be big is if an American actor plays Bond one day.

It's only natural. James Bond is a British character, created by a British writer and most of its movies are produced in Great Britain . . . even if the producers are American.

There's no reason to suspect that QUANTUM will do under $100 million in the USA. It might not have the legs CASINO ROYALE did, but it's going to get a big boost at Thanksgiving. I would be surprised if it doesn't cross the $100 million barrier this weekend.

But don't forget that CASINO ROYALE "never" did make it to #1 at the U.S. box office. Never.

Edited by DR76, 21 November 2008 - 03:43 PM.

[oatesy]

Face it: any objective analysis leads one to conclude that QoS will beat CR at the US box office. $200 million is still up in the air, but odds are probably better than 50-50.

Are you sure? Box Office Mojo is currently reporting QUANTUM's Stateside haul as some $79 million. I wonder whether it'll even end up doing $100 million.

By this time CR had made 55.7million domestic, which is 33% of the total take of 167million. DAD took 61.9million domestic by this time, which is 38.5% of the total take of 160million.

QoS has 79million. Significantly higher than either CR or DAD by this point, and by projecting those percentages forward for QoS (which assumes a similiar drop off) projects box office at somewhere between 205-240million. Even if the lack of enthusiasm for this film by certain viewers spreads bad-word, I can't see it taking less than CR

[jaguar007]

As much as I would love it to, there is NO WAY QoS will beat Twilight this weekend. The people that vote on imdb are not the teenage girls that are flocking to see Twilight. I predict Twilight could have the second highest grossing opening weekend of the year (next to TDK).

Last night I went to see QoS for the 3rd time at a 7:30 PM showing. There were already lines of teenage girls waiting for the 3 sold out midnight showings of Twilight. When I went to the midnight showing of QoS, there it was fairly full (1 screen), but not sold out. It was also only playing on 1 screen, not 3.

If this is an accurate indication, its not looking good for you bondgug ... from box office mojo;

What is your top choice to see this weekend (Nov. 21-23)?
29.1% Quantum of Solace
26.0% Twilight
15.7% Bolt
11.2% No interest this weekend.
3.2% Role Models
2.9% Other
2.8% Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
2.7% Changeling
2.3% Zack and Miri Make a pørno
1.1% Eagle Eye
0.9% Fireproof
0.9% High School Musical 3: Senior Year
0.8% Saw V
0.2% Soul Men
0.2% The Secret Life of Bees
0.1% Beverly Hills Chihuahua
0.1% The Haunting of Molly Hartley

[Publius]

Are you sure? Box Office Mojo is currently reporting QUANTUM's Stateside haul as some $79 million. I wonder whether it'll even end up doing $100 million.

As oatesy pointed out, CR had even less than QoS at this point in its run, and that included the beginning of Thanksgiving weekend (which QoS is a week away from reaching).

[HellIsHere]

It will surpass the $100m mark this weekend, maybe $140 by the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

[Bond Bug]

As much as I would love it to, there is NO WAY QoS will beat Twilight this weekend. The people that vote on imdb are not the teenage girls that are flocking to see Twilight. I predict Twilight could have the second highest grossing opening weekend of the year (next to TDK).

Last night I went to see QoS for the 3rd time at a 7:30 PM showing. There were already lines of teenage girls waiting for the 3 sold out midnight showings of Twilight. When I went to the midnight showing of QoS, there it was fairly full (1 screen), but not sold out. It was also only playing on 1 screen, not 3.

If this is an accurate indication, its not looking good for you bondgug ... from box office mojo;

What is your top choice to see this weekend (Nov. 21-23)?
29.1% Quantum of Solace
26.0% Twilight
15.7% Bolt
11.2% No interest this weekend.
3.2% Role Models
2.9% Other
2.8% Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
2.7% Changeling
2.3% Zack and Miri Make a pørno
1.1% Eagle Eye
0.9% Fireproof
0.9% High School Musical 3: Senior Year
0.8% Saw V
0.2% Soul Men
0.2% The Secret Life of Bees
0.1% Beverly Hills Chihuahua
0.1% The Haunting of Molly Hartley

Not bad news for me at all. I'd love Quantuum to do well in USA.

But it was 63rd biggest opening week in USA. Let's all celebrate with a Martini or a Coke Zero Zero this wonderful success!

[Mister E]

But don't forget that CASINO ROYALE "never" did make it to #1 at the U.S. box office. Never.

Not during the weekend. People wanted to watch ugly motion captured penguins with annoying voices.

[dinovelvet]

But don't forget that CASINO ROYALE "never" did make it to #1 at the U.S. box office. Never.

Not during the weekend. People wanted to watch ugly motion captured penguins with annoying voices.

Yep, its true. Casino Royale was the number one film in North America for 13 days, including its opening day.

[kneelbeforezod]

If it makes under 150m$ in N.America I will cut my head off

I think that was unwise!

Pirates and DaVinci had built in audiences and were completely review proof. But I really feel like word of mouth affects Bond quite a lot, and that word of mouth on this one isn't great.

I would love to be proved wrong, I really would, but I've got a horrible feeling QOS is going to drop like a stone at the U.S. box office.

140 million, give or take.

Have a look at this chart: http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

This doesn't look good at all to me, but I'd love to hear why I shouldn't worry.

[dinovelvet]

If it makes under 150m$ in N.America I will cut my head off

I think that was unwise!

Pirates and DaVinci had built in audiences and were completely review proof. But I really feel like word of mouth affects Bond quite a lot, and that word of mouth on this one isn't great.

I would love to be proved wrong, I really would, but I've got a horrible feeling QOS is going to drop like a stone at the U.S. box office.

140 million, give or take.

Have a look at this chart: http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

Well what am I supposed to be looking at, exactly? Its ahead of all but one movie on that list, and that one movie made $227 million total in the US. I guess you're concerned about QOS relatively low weekday numbers in comparison with the others, but the comparisons on that list are invalid, because :

a. Both Bourne movies played in the summer, when weekday attendance is bigger than in fall (kids don't go to school)

b. Both DAD and CR opened the weekend before Thanksgiving, when box office is up. QOS opened one week before both those films, so the weekday grosses are out of sync. QOS will have better third week numbers; the only real comparison between the three will be on Mon Dec 1st when we're able to compare QOS' Thanksgiving take to the other two.

$140 million? Ridiculous! It'll have that much by next Sunday. $200 million is not out of the question, but we'll have a much better idea of how likely that is on Sunday when this weekend's estimates are in.

[mario007]

I just got back from my third viewing ... I have to say this is a brilliant film! You can watch it over and over again and still get something out of it for the zillionth time! This film will be hailed along side OHMSS as an all time bond classic (my top 5 for sure) Marc Forester did an excellent job ... the pacing is just perfect! Nothing outstays its welcome!

From the amazing start over the lake with gilnts of the aston to the perfect final line 'I never left' this movie delivers! I would be very sad it this movie does not break through $200 mil in the US! I guess if it doesn't Americans don't deserve such a nuanced and magnificant film! If Marc and crew did this with a script that was in flux ... what would they have done with a completed script? Bring Marc back for bond 23!