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[Bonita]

I hope it does good over thankgiving weekend and get closer to $200 million as it can ... still fingers crossed. Realistically, it's US gross will be somewhere between $170 to $180 million ... agree? disagree?

P.S. If this movie does not break $200 million in the US will it be seen as a dissapointment?

Yes.

Keep dancing...

[byline]

FWIW, hubby and I went to see it again last night (second time for him, third time for me). When we got there for the 7 p.m. showing, it was sold out, so we came back for the 9:40 p.m. showing, and it was nearly sold out again.

[jaguar007]

Okay so the film is doing fine but... that second weekend is dropoff is much steeper than CR's. QOS is declining faster. I think it won't break 150m. Do we agree that word of mouth for this film isn't great?

The big difference is CR's second weekend was the big Thanksgiving weekend which will generally have a higher boxoffice turnout.

[YOLT]

Okay so the film is doing fine but... that second weekend is dropoff is much steeper than CR's. QOS is declining faster. I think it won't break 150m. Do we agree that word of mouth for this film isn't great?

There is nothing to worry about. It will break 150m$ its qurantee. In 9 days it made 110m$

We can see 130$ or even 140m$ next Sunday.

[Harmsway]

Okay so the film is doing fine but... that second weekend is dropoff is much steeper than CR's.

It is.

QOS is declining faster.

Yes, but it also opened higher. And there's also something to be said for Thanksgiving coming up right around the bend, which could conceivably rake in more dough overall than this second weekend. So the jury's hardly out.

I think it won't break 150m.

I think this is a bit of a push. I'm hard pressed to see how QUANTUM OF SOLACE could come in that low.

Do we agree that word of mouth for this film isn't great?

Well, I certainly would, if only from personal experience.

[YOLT]

Latest box office figures from Variety - 23rd November

http://www.variety.c...5...yid=13&cs=1

According to this, it is running at $309 milliion worldwide.

Its not worldwide its the international numbers (N.America not included) which means 309+109(US)=419m Worldwide.

To say the truth its under my expectations, but just very little under. I was expecting QOS to be 500m$ or higher in the end of November. It seems it will close November at 470-490m$ mark.

If only in Japan it goes to 40m$ or higher it may push to the 700m$ line.

By these latest news its really gurantee that it will pass 600m$ and CR's record.

[jaguar007]

#1 Twilight (no surprise) $70,553,000
#2 QoS $27,4000,000
#3 Bolt $27,000,000

Of course these are early estimates so #2 and #3 are too close to really call at this point. I hope Sony underestimated to offset the overestimate from last weekend.

[I never miss]

Beginning to get concerned that QoS won't equal or top the $594M of CR. I really hope it does as it will go a long way in justifying the decisions that Eon/Forster made with this film.

Can't help thinking it'll end up taking about $560 worldwide. Hope I'm wrong.

[Born_again_Bond]

Latest box office figures from Variety - 23rd November

http://www.variety.c...5...yid=13&cs=1

According to this, it is running at $309 milliion worldwide.

Its not worldwide its the international numbers (N.America not included) which means 309+109(US)=419m Worldwide.

To say the truth its under my expectations, but just very little under. I was expecting QOS to be 500m$ or higher in the end of November. It seems it will close November at 470-490m$ mark.

If only in Japan it goes to 40m$ or higher it may push to the 700m$ line.

By these latest news its really gurantee that it will pass 600m$ and CR's record.

So glad I read the article wrong!!! I thought $309 sounded so low. Your figures are much better.... so much more satifying!

[jaguar007]

Can't help thinking it'll end up taking about $560 worldwide. Hope I'm wrong.

Even at $560, that is certainly no bomb and is plenty for them to greenlight Bond 23.

[Invincible1958]

I hope it does good over thankgiving weekend and get closer to $200 million as it can ... still fingers crossed. Realistically, it's US gross will be somewhere between $170 to $180 million ... agree? disagree?

P.S. If this movie does not break $200 million in the US will it be seen as a dissapointment?

Yes.

No way $200 million will be seen as a dissapointment in the US.
I mean: that would be the 4th most succesful Bondfilm of all time in the USA behind Thunderball, Goldfinger and You Only Live Twice.
NO other Bondfilm made $200 mio or more (adjusted for inflation).

$200 million means: there are 18 Bondfilms, that had much lower admissions.

So no way this will be a dissapointment.

[YOLT]

Beginning to get concerned that QoS won't equal or top the $594M of CR. I really hope it does as it will go a long way in justifying the decisions that Eon/Forster made with this film.

Can't help thinking it'll end up taking about $560 worldwide. Hope I'm wrong.

What makes you to think like that ? We have already passed 400m$ just in less than a month.

If you are questioning 700m$ thats ok. It can finish lower than that. But 560m$ ? Come on! Its impossible for QOS to finish under 600m$

[Publius]

When CR was released, I saw it four times in its first week. So far, I've only seen QoS twice. The difference? I'm waiting for Thanksgiving to see it the third, fourth, and possibly more times. I likewise caught my third and fourth viewing of CR during the Thanksgiving holiday.

I hope it does good over thankgiving weekend and get closer to $200 million as it can ... still fingers crossed. Realistically, it's US gross will be somewhere between $170 to $180 million ... agree? disagree?

I think it'll be higher than that. If its opening weekend accounts for 35% of its total gross (an unusually high number for Bond, even higher than DAD with its similar opening weekend but worse word-of-mouth), it will finish with ~$193 million.

P.S. If this movie does not break $200 million in the US will it be seen as a dissapointment?

Depends on who you ask. Most people without an ax to grind either way will tell you beating CR's $167 million (or maybe its inflation-adjusted take of $180 million or so) is the benchmark.

Also, it depends on how it does everywhere else. If it takes the #1 spot at the overseas box office for the year ($475 million or more), falling short of what was already a lofty goal (for Bond) in the US won't be a big deal at all.

[YOLT]

Beginning to get concerned that QoS won't equal or top the $594M of CR. I really hope it does as it will go a long way in justifying the decisions that Eon/Forster made with this film.

Can't help thinking it'll end up taking about $560 worldwide. Hope I'm wrong.

What makes you to think like that ? We have already passed 400m$ just in less than a month.

If you are questioning 700m$ thats ok. It can finish lower than that. But 560m$ ? Come on! Its impossible for QOS to finish under 600m$

BTW I think there is a problem with boxofficemojo's numbers:

Domestic: $109,483,000 20.8%
+ Foreign: $418,000,000 79.2%

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= Worldwide: $527,483,000


These just cant be right or can they If so spectacular

http://www.boxoffice...jamesbond22.htm

[Publius]

140 million, give or take.

You think it will have a multiplier of... 2??? Again, as I've said before, if even critically panned movies with bigger openings routinely muster multipliers of 2.5 to 3, there's no reason to think QoS won't as well. Remember, DAD had a multiplier of 3.4 with worse reviews and a similar (when adjusted for inflation) opening weekend.

I wonder - if folk put their energies into being so evidently expert about their own finances as they patently are about those of some film companies, would the credit crunch have happened?

They probably would. Luckily I can do both. For me, talking box office numbers is like discussing sports stats (which I also like to do). I prefer watching films or sports, respectively, but sometimes I like to scratch that mathematical part of my brain as well.

All I know is that I love this film and lots of my friends - who all liked CR - keep asking me questions like, "was that guy in the trunk supposed to be someone from Casino Royale?" "Wasn't M shot in that one scene?" "How did Bond get out of that burning building?"

Those are the same people who would lean over to ask me if Gettler was Le Chiffre.

The Friday drop is not terribly good. Madagascar 2 did $63.1 opening weekend and did $8 mil on its second Friday. But at least QoS isn't dropping like High School Musical 3!

I don't see why you keep comparing it to Madagascar. Wouldn't something within its genre be a better comparison?

Okay so the film is doing fine but... that second weekend is dropoff is much steeper than CR's. QOS is declining faster.

CR opened relatively weakly and it rolled directly into Thanksgiving. QoS had an opening over 65% better and Thanksgiving is a week later for it. Apples and oranges. That's like comparing day X of CR to day X of DAD, when it was some random day for the former and New Year's for the latter.

And again, CR has a much better multiplier than TDK (4.1 versus 3.3). Heck, it has the same RottenTomatoes score. Would you say it had better word-of-mouth? Was better critically received? Probably not, it's just that TDK is "falling" from unprecedented heights.

Do we agree that word of mouth for this film isn't great?

Yes, but it's still good, in my experience. Basically, "good, but not as great as CR" is the consensus I've encountered. Then again, the consensus I encountered after CR was "good, but not as great as Goldeneye"... which is all you really need to know.

Can't help thinking it'll end up taking about $560 worldwide. Hope I'm wrong.

Well, I doubt that, but even if that's the case, no big deal. TND underperformed GE by a similar margin (and had much worse reviews), yet Brosnan was never doubted as a serious box office heavyweight for the series.

[YOLT]

Hey guys what about these numbers 418m$ for foreign isnt right or is it ? It seems impossible

BTW I think there is a problem with boxofficemojo's numbers:

Domestic: $109,483,000 20.8%
+ Foreign: $418,000,000 79.2%

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= Worldwide: $527,483,000


These just cant be right or can they If so spectacular

http://www.boxoffice...jamesbond22.htm

[Icebreaker]

So the numbers this weekend were about what I expected. Guys, anybody that is thinking it won't hit $160m in the US... I don't know what to say. It's virtually impossible for it not to make that mark, unless it disappears off the face of the planet. $160m is a given. How much MORE past that is what's up for debate.

Internationally, I think Boxofficemojo.com has got that a bit mixed up. I think it's total take is $418m worldwide. If its $520m+ then that is beyond comprehension. That would be absolutely amazing. But I am pretty sure its sitting at around $400m worldwide right now, which is great. Like I said $600m is a lock at this point. We just have to see what sort of legs it has past that.

-matthew

[Publius]

These just cant be right or can they If so spectacular

As Icebreaker said, probably just a typo. The overseas figure is likely the approximate worldwide total.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

'Quantum of Solace' Remains #1 Internationally

International total for Bond film now stands at $309 million

[kneelbeforezod]

140 million, give or take.

You think it will have a multiplier of... 2??? Again, as I've said before, if even critically panned movies with bigger openings routinely muster multipliers of 2.5 to 3, there's no reason to think QoS won't as well. Remember, DAD had a multiplier of 3.4 with worse reviews and a similar (when adjusted for inflation) opening weekend.

I think the moral of the story is I shouldn't make predictions about things I know little about

It just looks like it's plummeting rather, and that made me nervous.

But I didn't realise Thanksgiving was a week later etc.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

James Bond Takes Second Place At US Box Office

'Quantum' takes $27.4 million over weekend, pushed out of #1 spot by 'Twilight'

[K1Bond007]

According to BOM it's up to 418m internationally and 527m worldwide. Seems high, but who knows. Not very far from Casino Royale. Pretty amazing if that's a true figure. Royale only did 427m internationally total.

http://www.boxoffice...jamesbond22.htm

[dinovelvet]

According to BOM it's up to 418m internationally and 527m worldwide. Seems high, but who knows. Not very far from Casino Royale. Pretty amazing if that's a true figure. Royale only did 427m internationally total.

http://www.boxoffice...jamesbond22.htm

I think that's a mistake, Nikki Finke said that it has made $418 total worldwide. That number sounds TOO amazing for such a short timeframe.

BTW next weekend in the UK, QOS will probably overtake The Dark Knight's entire UK haul.

[DLibrasnow]

I went to see TWILIGHT on Friday. I did not expect to enjoy TWILIGHT but I did find it entertaining.

Of course there were a lot of girls dragging their boyfriends to see it. I am wondering if that was a trade-off some guys made to get their girlfriends to see Quantum of Solace?

[killkenny kid]

Ok I give, what the heck is TWILIGHT?

[Mister E]

Great, first ugly penguins and now sissy vampires.

[killkenny kid]

Great, first ugly penguins and now sissy vampires.

Indeed, lol.

[tdalton]

Great, first ugly penguins and now sissy vampires.

At least Quantum of Solace got one weekend at number 1, something CR didn't achieve. I found the way that EON handled the U.S. release to be rather interesting (and I may have this wrong, so apologies in advance if I do), as they moved the release back a week to the 14th after the Harry Potter film vacated its release date (which was the 21st, if I remember correctly), thinking that it would guarantee that they had no competition for the remainder of the month of November. And then here comes Twilight, which more or less accomplished what Harry Potter would have had it been released when it was supposed to. It looks as though they should have just released it on November 7, or on October 31 when it was released in the UK. I blame the release schedule more than the competition that the film had. As for Twilight, I'm actually glad to see that it had financial success as hopefully this will lead to more prominent roles for Kristen Stewart, who I've been a big fan of since her performance in Sean Penn's Into the Wild.

Edited by tdalton, 24 November 2008 - 03:50 AM.

[Bonita]

To YOLT:

My worry is how fast QoS will drop. Christmas week, CR was still pulling in $1.3M per day. Good numbers that kept it on over 1500 screens. DAD was averaging about $1M per day during that Christmas period, holding over 1800 screens.

But the QoS numbers are falling off faster and it opened a week earlier. My worry is that it will hold fewer theaters than CR or DAD, and that will cut its numbers.

But it did ok this weekend compared to last. Now if I could just have 10% of this weekend, I might never go back to work again in my life.

You asked why I compared this film to Madagascar 2. Well, anyone who brings up the Bourne films is roundly told that they don't count because movie-going patterns are different in the summer. And anyone who brings up CR (or Harry Potter) is told that isn't a good comparison because its second week is Thanksgiving week. But Madagascar 2 is a fall opening, this year, and its second week was not Thanksgiving. While it has a largely family audience, its opening weekend is very close to that of QoS. If it is holding on better, I think that is a fair comparison. While people can chirp that Twilight ate up some of Bond's potential this weekend, the same is true of Madagascar 2' s second week - Bond was strong competition for many who would go see it (with or without the kids).

QoS is slipping faster.

But I still hope it can get to $200M

Keep dancing...

[DLibrasnow]

Ok I give, what the heck is TWILIGHT?

A movie based on a trilogy of popular books. It had some interesting sequences and Kristen Stewart was particularly notable in the lead role. I actually enjoyed TWILIGHT more than Quantum of Solace.

I am glad TWILIGHT was at the top spot this week (very deservedly so in my opinion) as this hopefully will lead to the other two books getting filmed.