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[Bond Bug]

Take a look at this chart:

http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

Still very early days to reach any conclusions but already Quantum is showing poor legs compared to Bourne Ultimatum or a selection of other Bond/Bourne movies.

Quantum was the ONLY movie to fall on Saturday compared to Friday and had the second worst drop on Sunday. If these figures are revised downwards, the early signs won't be great.

[mario007]

Take a look at this chart:

http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

Still very early days to reach any conclusions but already Quantum is showing poor legs compared to Bourne Ultimatum or a selection of other Bond/Bourne movies.

Quantum was the ONLY movie to fall on Saturday compared to Friday and had the second worst drop on Sunday. If these figures are revised downwards, the early signs won't be great.

I think with a initial day haul of $27 million it is no great suprise that it fell slightly on Saturday (look at the other first day hauls of the other comparable movies). I think QOS will have legs and will do over $200 in the U.S box office. Both times I saw the movie (on Friday and Saturday) the people at the theater cheered at the end of the movie ... that never happened with CR ... so I think the word of mouth will be good.

[Cody]

I don't know about the others, but QoS also has $2 million worth of midnight screenings included on its Friday count. With that counted separately, Friday would be 25 and Saturday's 26 would be the usual slight increase.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

James Bond Finds Solace At International Box Office For Third Straight Weekend

'Quantum of Solace' #1 again, pulls in $56.1 million, record openings in Mexico, Hungary...

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

James Bond Finds Solace At International Box Office For Third Straight Weekend

'Quantum of Solace' #1 again, pulls in $56.1 million, record openings in Mexico, Hungary...

[Kristian]

I don't know about the others, but QoS also has $2 million worth of midnight screenings included on its Friday count. With that counted separately, Friday would be 25 and Saturday's 26 would be the usual slight increase.

True, that..... So maybe it'll hold up, after all. All I want is $210 million.

[Bond Bug]

Take a look at this chart:

http://www.boxoffice...ondbournevs.htm

Still very early days to reach any conclusions but already Quantum is showing poor legs compared to Bourne Ultimatum or a selection of other Bond/Bourne movies.

Quantum was the ONLY movie to fall on Saturday compared to Friday and had the second worst drop on Sunday. If these figures are revised downwards, the early signs won't be great.

I think with a initial day haul of $27 million it is no great suprise that it fell slightly on Saturday (look at the other first day hauls of the other comparable movies). I think QOS will have legs and will do over $200 in the U.S box office. Both times I saw the movie (on Friday and Saturday) the people at the theater cheered at the end of the movie ... that never happened with CR ... so I think the word of mouth will be good.

I'm sure it will do over 200m. Those figures are too early to make any judgements on. I hope it beats Bourne Ultimatum. Whatever, it will be the highest grossing Bond USA and worldwide. Well I'm pleased they cheered for it!

[Publius]

According to this BoxOfficeMojo article, CR was at $195.6 million in overseas grosses at this point in its run, while QoS is at $251.6 million. That's over 28% better, which would translate to about $550 million for QoS (CR made just under $430 million) if the ratio holds throughout its run.

Granted, it probably won't, given that QoS looks to be much more front-loaded than CR and the WOM is "just" good, as opposed to great, but it definitely seems more than likely to at least match its predecessor. Throw in a better performance in the US, and I think $650 million worldwide is a safe bet with $700 million well within the realm of possibility.

[bondrules]

I think $650 million worldwide is a safe bet with $700 million well within the realm of possibility.

That's my prediction as well.
I see it hitting 500MMww before 12/1.

[stromberg]

Final figures from the weekend are in:
67.5 Million: 27 on Friday, -4.4%, 25.8 on Saturday, -44%, 14.7 on Sunday.
http://www.boxoffice...jamesbond22.htm

Looks like the predictions for Sunday were a tad too high.

[Bonita]

The final numbers are not good news for overall performance. My sources tell me the fires in So. Cal. hurt Sunday in that market, but even that should not account for a mis-estimate of 4 million.

The film should have ginned up $17 mil on Sunday.

This coming weekend will be crucial to see if this film can become a domestic blockbuster.

check out my review: http://debrief.comma...showtopic=51624

keep dancing...

[Bond Bug]

Quantum is doing VERY BADLY in north America.

It may have been the top grossing opening weekend in UK, but it was only 38th best weekend in USA.

It failed to beat Bourne Ultimatum.

Its Sunday gross was getting on for half of the Friday gross. Sunday alone was nearly 5m less than Bourne's first Sunday. That is terrible by anyone's standard of legginess.

Clearly it opened bigger than Casino on the back of that movie's success and a beefed up marketing campaign, but word of mouth cannot be good.

Americans do not like this movie.

Edited by Bond Bug, 17 November 2008 - 11:38 PM.

[dinovelvet]

Quantum is doing VERY BADLY in north America.

Every other movie forum is celebrating that its the biggest opening for a Bond movie ever in the USA, and yet on a James Bond fan forum, we find this. Incredible.

Yeah, James Bond sucks, the franchise is dead, Craig is gay, Wilson and Broccoli are clueless, and Fleming is rolling in his grave.

[Bond Bug]

Quantum is doing VERY BADLY in north America.

Every other movie forum is celebrating that its the biggest opening for a Bond movie ever in the USA, and yet on a James Bond fan forum, we find this. Incredible.

Yeah, James Bond sucks, the franchise is dead, Craig is gay, Wilson and Broccoli are clueless, and Fleming is rolling in his grave.

Nonsense.

The figures comparing Friday to Sunday are terrible by any standard.

I have been saying it would outgross Bourne in USA for a long time and that it will outgross Casino worldwide, so certainly have not been wishing it to do badly.
You are just changing the subject. By these figures, clearly Americans do not like the movie.

Quantum opening day more than two million more than Bourne Ultimatum (so let's not argue about midnight shows), by Sunday it was nearly 5m behind Bourne's Sunday. Sorry, but that is awful.

Edited by Bond Bug, 18 November 2008 - 12:17 AM.

[Mr. Somerset]

Well deserved, and gives Solace to those who might have feared a Licence To Kill US opening.

[Double-0-7]

Those numbers are a little low because they forgot to count me twice.

[Joe Bond]

Quantum is doing VERY BADLY in north America.

It may have been the top grossing opening weekend in UK, but it was only 38th best weekend in USA.

It failed to beat Bourne Ultimatum.

Its Sunday gross was getting on for half of the Friday gross. Sunday alone was nearly 5m less than Bourne's first Sunday. That is terrible by anyone's standard of legginess.

Clearly it opened bigger than Casino on the back of that movie's success and a beefed up marketing campaign, but word of mouth cannot be good.

Americans do not like this movie.

QoS is not doing bad in the U.S. for a Bond film where its out grossing not only CR but all of the Brosnan movies. A good argument for why it did not beat The Bourne Ultimatum may be because The Bourne Ultimatum was released during late summer and movie attendace is higher during the summer even late summer than in the fall and this is the main reason why its not making the big bucks in fact its #5 on top opening weekend domestic grosses for the month of November ever and if QoS was released during the summer I am sure it would be making more like 80 to 90 million on its opening weekend. Plus QoS has the Thanksgiving holiday where most college students get off and can see it again or at least I will because of this and The Bourne Ultimatum didn't have a holiday like this to rank in cash. Sundays always decline from Saturdays and despite the numbers saying that it declined on Saturday this may be misleading since the $2 million made on midnight showings so really it increased on Saturday which has to show some good word of mouth and if it did not have good word of off it would of dropped significantly on Saturday. Americans like this movie or at least most do because if they did not like it than they must have not liked CR since it made less on its opening week than QoS or the fact that QoS has the highest opening gross for the month of November this year and its the 4th highest opening weekend for this year and only TDK, Iron Man, and Indiana Jones have a higher opening gross and these just happen to have been released in the Summer and if they did not like QoS than they must have not liked Wall-E which made less in its opening weekend than QoS and it made more than $200,000 in its domestic run. All this info came from boxofficemojo.com.

[dinovelvet]

The figures comparing Friday to Sunday are terrible by any standard.

I have been saying it would outgross Bourne in USA for a long time and that it will outgross Casino worldwide, so certainly have not been wishing it to do badly.
You are just changing the subject. By these figures, clearly Americans do not like the movie.

Quantum opening day more than two million more than Bourne Ultimatum (so let's not argue about midnight shows), by Sunday it was nearly 5m behind Bourne's Sunday. Sorry, but that is awful.

On the contrary. Either you aren't aware of, or are deliberately ignoring, the big difference between the way summer films play out and fall films play out. Look at the Bourne ultimatum's first Sunday :

http://www.boxoffice...?...8-05&p=.htm

EVERY film in the top ten sees small dropoffs, all under 30%...BECAUSE ITS SUMMER AND KIDS/TEENS DON'T HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY.

Yesterday's box office :

http://www.boxoffice...?...1-16&p=.htm

EVERY film in the top ten sees significant dropoffs on Sunday, all over 40% (QOS actually having one of the smaller dropoffs), because kids/teens have to go to school the next day. Sunday evening screenings in the fall/winter are no different to any other weeknight, and that's the major difference between how QOS and Bourne fared over their opening weekends.

[Professor Dent]

Well, if $67.5 million is doing badly, I'll take some of that "bad" action.

[mario007]

I sure hope QOS crosses the $200 million mark before its north american run is over ...

Dinovelvet is right ... all the films dropped off %40 or more on Sunday ... those of you who know more about box office figures what do you think the drop will be for QOS by next weekend?

Edited by mario007, 18 November 2008 - 01:02 AM.

[Joe Bond]

You nailed it dinovelvet. I think the perfect stat on how well its doing is the fact it has a higher opening gross than any film that has been released this fall and I don't like how the fact that QoS is 38 on the all time opening weekend grosses is relevent since the majority of the movies above QoS were released in the summer and CR is 125 on the list so its doing really well for a Bond film.

[Bonita]

I would like this film to do well. I am concerned about the Sunday drop.

Casino Royale dropped only 30.7% on Sunday.

Madagascar 2 dropped 34% on its opening Sunday

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire dropped 29.6% on its opening Sunday.

A drop of this size for Bond is not good news for the film's chances of hitting blockbuster status in the US.

Next weekend is critical.

keep dancing...

[ACE]

That damned title!

[Bond Bug]

if QoS was released during the summer I am sure it would be making more like 80 to 90 million on its opening weekend.

Come off it! There is no way of proving that statement. If the producers and distributors thought this movie would take a lot more money against the Summer competition, I think they would be releasing Bond movies in the Summer.

[col_007]

Someone here said that QoS was to become a cult film. Cult films are more in the way of films that don't do well at the Box Office, then become popular on DVD with only a few followers.

must mean different here in England then a cult thing usually means something that's extremely popular

[blueman]

Wouldn't surprise me to see QOS not have the huge legs some are predicting, especially in the US, requires far too much thinking to appreciate. However that it had such a massive opening is still quite an accomplishment. How QOS does against "Twilight" this weekend will be interesting.

[col_007]

[quote name='Bond Bug' date='17 November 2008 - 23:36' post='957743'
Americans do not like this movie.
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do i look like i give a damm

[blueman]

Americans do not like this movie.

do i look like i give a damm

Nice.

[Bond Bug]

On the contrary. Either you aren't aware of, or are deliberately ignoring, the big difference between the way summer films play out and fall films play out. Look at the Bourne ultimatum's first Sunday :

http://www.boxoffice...?...8-05&p=.htm

EVERY film in the top ten sees small dropoffs, all under 30%...BECAUSE ITS SUMMER AND KIDS/TEENS DON'T HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY.

Yesterday's box office :

http://www.boxoffice...?...1-16&p=.htm

EVERY film in the top ten sees significant dropoffs on Sunday, all over 40% (QOS actually having one of the smaller dropoffs), because kids/teens have to go to school the next day. Sunday evening screenings in the fall/winter are no different to any other weeknight, and that's the major difference between how QOS and Bourne fared over their opening weekends.

All those other movies INCREASED on the Saturday by a big margin, but Bond dropped, so the fall from Friday to Sunday was not comparable to Quantum. Look at the Bourne movies and the recent Bonds. Quantum is performing very badly in comparison to all of them. It is too early to say for certain this is a trend for Quantum, but the drop is so huge it looks like it is suffering from poor word of mouth. If tomorrow's figures are as bad, look for Bond to drop its number one slot next weekend.

[Joe Bond]

if QoS was released during the summer I am sure it would be making more like 80 to 90 million on its opening weekend.

Come off it! There is no way of proving that statement. If the producers and distributors thought this movie would take a lot more money against the Summer competition, I think they would be releasing Bond movies in the Summer.

There is no way to prove this but I did not mean it would make this amount with the huge summer this year but I was just saying that it would make a higher amount if it was released during a time where movie attendance is much higher. If say a movie like Iron Man swapped release dates with Quantum of Solace than its possible that Iron Man would not have grossed $100 million but more around $80 million since the fall doesn't get as high grosses and QoS may not have grossed 80 to 90 but it would have grossed more than it has in the fall. All I am saying its tough to compare a summer movie's gross compared to a fall movie's gross when trying to determine if a movie is doing good or not. All I know is only 3 movies had better domestic opening weekends this year so I think that speaks for itself.