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[YOLT]

Where is this 450m coming from in the international markets? Japan's the only one left with maybe about $20m to add to the kitty. And I just know loads of Jap fans are downloading that very clear dvd rip with the 'for your consideration' subtitle that briefly appears every 20 mins or so.

I don't think QoS will go far north of $550m in total.

550m$ I just laugh at that number. Its been only a month since the release, and we are at about 480m$. Come on. USA got atleast 30m$ and so is Japan. It will pass 600m$. Do you want to bet, anything you want

I'll bet anyone it'll be above $609 mil world-wide but no higher than $639.

C'mon...it's a nice tight two way market!

Let's in' trade!

If we can reach 530m$ this weekeend I Think we can see 650m$

[HildebrandRarity]

I'll bet anyone it'll be above $609 mil world-wide but no higher than $639.

C'mon...it's a nice tight two way market!

Let's in' trade!

If we can reach 530m$ this weekeend I Think we can see 650m$

There's NO WAY this movie is going to get to $650 mil. If the US Dollar was as weak as it was during CR's run, then i'd say sure.

Well I don't see where this movie can make another $120m to cross $600m.

It's hemmoraging badly in the US box-office.

I think it can get passed $600 mil.

It's not bleeding badly in the US. The only action movie that came out was Transporter 3, and Q0S's third weekend CRUSHED Tr3's in it's *first* weekend.

I feel you're being rather pessimistic but I do agree with you that YOLT is being overly optimistic.

No hard feelings to either of you, of course.

[Elvenstar]

So what amount do you expect it to reach after the next weekend? Pessimistic view please.

After all the thougts overall I see it will be about 550-570 mil. And Im optimistic But I want to believe Yolt so much

Edited by Elvenstar, 05 December 2008 - 07:45 AM.

[YOLT]

Well just think this way. They have to calculate the international numbers on the last day of the showing. Dont they ?

So even it finish around 400m$ internationally if US dollar decreases about %10 it will be 440m$

I think the dollar is at its peak and will drop about %10 in the comming months.

So what amount do you expect it to reach after the next weekend? Pessimistic view please.

After all the thougts overall I see it will be about 550-570 mil. And Im optimistic But I want to believe Yolt so much

Well trust me. We will pass the 500m$ mark this weekend. There is no way QOS makes under 600m$, even at this US dollar rates.

[HildebrandRarity]

I think they likely have set the exchange rate for the Pound.

CR used the Dec 1, 2006 rate for the Pound/Dollar cross.

So I think they either used the Nov 28 (last trading day of Nov) or the Dec 1 rate for Q0S.



On the other hand, since the movie has not opened in Japan, they'll likely use the Yen rate that prevails about a month into that territory's run.

Makes sense, no?

[YOLT]

I think they likely have set the exchange rate for the Pound.

CR used the Dec 1, 2006 rate for the Pound/Dollar cross.

So I think they either used the Nov 28 (last trading day of Nov) or the Dec 1 rate for Q0S.



On the other hand, since the movie has not opened in Japan, they'll likely use the Yen rate that prevails about a month into that territory's run.

Makes sense, no?

1 dollar is 100,08 Yen as of now. 2 years ago it was higher. So Yen appreciated againts the dollar.

Japan can save us I am looking for 30m$ in Japan

[HildebrandRarity]

Do you have CR's Japanese box office in Yen terms, YOLT?

Actually we don't even need the Yen numbers. All we need to do is get the Japanese box office numbers in dollars and then adjust accordingly.

Yen was the following during the Japan run for CR:

Dec 1, 06....115.44

Jan 2, 07....118.51

Feb 1, 07 ...120.82

Mar 1, 07....117.61

Currently it is 91.92 as of 10:50 am NY time.

So that is a 20 percent appreciation of the Yen since Dec 1, 06, a 22.5 percent appreciation since Jan 2, 07, and a 24 percent increase since Feb 1, 07.

What you can do, YOLT, is multiply the CR Japan number in dollars by a factor of ~ 1.22ish to extrapolate Q0S's Japan number, ceteris paribus.



How's that?


PS

Got the numbers:

CR Japan Box Office: $18.982 million (Dec 1, 06 to March 31, 07)

So, ceteris paribus, expect Q0S box office from Japan to be ~ $23.15 million.

[YOLT]

Do you have CR's Japanese box office in Yen terms, YOLT?

Actually we don't even need the Yen numbers. All we need to do is get the Japanese box office numbers in dollars and then adjust accordingly.

Yen was the following during the Japan run for CR:

Dec 1, 06....115.44

Jan 2, 07....118.51

Feb 1, 07 ...120.82

Mar 1, 07....117.61

Currently it is 91.92 as of 10:50 am NY time.

So that is a 20 percent appreciation of the Yen since Dec 1, 06, a 22.5 percent appreciation since Jan 2, 07, and a 24 percent increase since Feb 1, 07.

What you can do, YOLT, is multiply the CR Japan number in dollars by a factor of ~ 1.22ish to extrapolate Q0S's Japan number, ceteris paribus.



How's that?


PS

Got the numbers:

CR Japan Box Office: $18.982 million (Dec 1, 06 to March 31, 07)

So, ceteris paribus, expect Q0S box office from Japan to be ~ $23.15 million.

Ceteris Paribus An economist, right ?

Your numbers are right so 30m$ for Japan is not far away is it ?

[HildebrandRarity]

Do you have CR's Japanese box office in Yen terms, YOLT?

Actually we don't even need the Yen numbers. All we need to do is get the Japanese box office numbers in dollars and then adjust accordingly.

Yen was the following during the Japan run for CR:

Dec 1, 06....115.44

Jan 2, 07....118.51

Feb 1, 07 ...120.82

Mar 1, 07....117.61

Currently it is 91.92 as of 10:50 am NY time.

So that is a 20 percent appreciation of the Yen since Dec 1, 06, a 22.5 percent appreciation since Jan 2, 07, and a 24 percent increase since Feb 1, 07.

What you can do, YOLT, is multiply the CR Japan number in dollars by a factor of ~ 1.22ish to extrapolate Q0S's Japan number, ceteris paribus.



How's that?


PS

Got the numbers:

CR Japan Box Office: $18.982 million (Dec 1, 06 to March 31, 07)

So, ceteris paribus, expect Q0S box office from Japan to be ~ $23.15 million.

Ceteris Paribus An economist, right ?

No. Trader. Economists are peasants.

[YOLT]

So what amount do you expect it to reach after the next weekend? Pessimistic view please.

After all the thougts overall I see it will be about 550-570 mil. And Im optimistic But I want to believe Yolt so much

I expect maybe $8-9m in the USA and maybe about $11m in the rest of the world. So anywhere around US$510m by the end of this weekend.

I think we can see 515m$ or even higher.

[HildebrandRarity]

Anyone guess how it will end its UK run in Pounds?

Pounds will make it directly comparable to CR because we already know that the dollar numbers are not comparable.

[HildebrandRarity]

I have no idea what you're going on about, Dog Bond.

[DamnCoffee]

He's not in denial, but you're probably in something.

[sharpshooter]

Calling QoS stupid, Dog Bond? You must be barking mad!

[DamnCoffee]

Yawn, this movie sucks and the box-office reflects that.

Excuse me, but this has nearly made $500 Million in one month, where are you getting this information from, it's very paw?

Crawl back in your Kennel, Dog. We really need to keep you on your leash.


You're all bark and no bite.

[bondrules]

That's pretty funny. Calling a half a billion BO movie a failure.

Well done.

[Loomis]

Although the film might retains its #4 spot or be at #5, that QoS box-office is terrible. AWFUL. ... This stupid Bond film is now on life-support and might not even crawl pass what Casino Royale earned.

Has QUANTUM OF SOLACE tanked in the United States?

Box Office Mojo currently reports its Stateside haul as $144,867,744

Here's the current American top 20, courtesy of Box Office Mojo:

1 THE DARK KNIGHT $530,353,467

2 IRON MAN $318,313,199

3 INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL $317,023,851

4 HANCOCK $227,946,274

5 WALL-E $223,657,325

6 KUNG FU PANDA $215,434,591

7 MADAGASCAR: ESCAPE 2 AFRICA $160,574,732

8 DR. SEUSS' HORTON HEARS A WHO! $154,529,439

9 SEX AND THE CITY $152,647,258

10 QUANTUM OF SOLACE $144,867,744

11 MAMMA MIA! $143,762,955

12 THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: PRINCE CASPIAN $141,621,490

13 THE INCREDIBLE HULK $134,533,885

14 WANTED $134,327,125

15 GET SMART $130,319,208

16 TWILIGHT $125,355,346

17 TROPIC THUNDER $110,461,307

18 THE MUMMY: TOMB OF THE DRAGON EMPEROR $102,277,510

19 JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH $101,693,529

20 STEP BROTHERS $100,468,793

Now, it doesn't look to me as though QUANTUM OF SOLACE is doing all that badly.

[sharpshooter]

That's pretty funny. Calling a half a billion BO movie a failure.

Well done.

Indeed, his information is very paw.

[bondrules]

I'm no vet, but doesn't rabies make one delusional?

[Loomis]

Dog Bond, how much would QUANTUM have to gross in the United States in order to not be a flop?

[bondrules]

Dog Bond, how much would QUANTUM have to gross in the United States in order to not be a flop?

I think he is thinking something in the 1 billion range.

[DamnCoffee]

Oh yawn, another funny fanboy who can't understand that this movie has done worse than its predecessor. They spent $200m to produce this crap and this to tremendous applause from MHarkin

Quantum of Solace hasn't even finished it's run yet, or opened all across the world. It's made over half a billion already, It only needs 90+ Million tops to outgross Casino Royale. What the hell makes you think that it won't outgross Casino Royale, if the bloody thing hasn't finished it's run yet.

Dog, you need to be put down. period.

[DamnCoffee]

*Chants to QoS*

Here boy, come on boy, come on boy! Here boy... Good boy!

Quantum of Solace is not a flop, and by the way... the receipts are dropping by 50 POINTS not %, percentage doesn't make sense, 'cos if it was dropping by 50 percent there would only be something like 1 person going to the cinema in the entire world in another year or two.

[DamnCoffee]

Next week, The Day The Earth Stood Still opens. QoS will be out of the Top 5 and languishing in receipts about $350,000 per weekday.

You're a psychic now?

[bondrules]

This BO doom argument makes no sense whatsoever. Movies usually earn more during their first days of release. This movie has made half a bill already, and it still has legs. There is no logic in saying that the movie has failed. It's not about being a fan, it's about being objective.

Bond Dog, FYI:
Any movie makes 500mm WW at the BO = A hit.

[DamnCoffee]

Next week, The Day The Earth Stood Still opens. QoS will be out of the Top 5 and languishing in receipts about $350,000 per weekday.

You're a psychic now?

I don't suffer from your tunnel vision son.

Well, you dig them often enough, Dog.

See ya in 7 days.

[bondrules]

The movie has failed in the sense that it is now struggling to beat its predecessor.

So if it doesn't make more money than CR, this movie sucks? You did say QoS sucks, and the BO office shows that.

[bondrules]

No, QoS sucks from my own perspective. I was very disappointed with it

OK, so you didn't like it. It's Ok.

But to say that most ppl don't like it based on BO performance is a failed argument.

An if there are so many ppl saying that the movie wasn't that good, how come it has done so well at the BO? Maybe b/c lots of ppl are going for repeated viewings? Think about it....

And it's not just Fan Boys, as you said. Even though there are plenty of us, we are not enough to carry a film into such heights without the average public showing up at the theater for multiple viewings.

[HildebrandRarity]

LOL

If Dog Bond was to be honest and logical, then she would note that the horribly weak US Dollar in late 2006 masked CR's International grosses to the upside.

But Dog Bond has no interest in being objective. No interest in being logical. No interest in looking at the currency rate differentials between Dec 2006 and Dec 2008 to account for both Bond film's international grosses.



We love you Dog Bond but you have to approach the forums with some semblence of objectivity otherwise you'll have your credibility questioned.

[HildebrandRarity]

LOL

If Dog Bond was to be honest and logical, then she would note that the horribly weak US Dollar in late 2006 masked CR's International grosses to the upside.

But Dog Bond has no interest in being objective. No interest in being logical. No interest in looking at the currency rate differentials between Dec 2006 and Dec 2008 to account for both Bond film's international grosses.



We love you Dog Bond but you have to approach the forums with some semblence of objectivity otherwise you'll have your credibility questioned.

ROTFLMAO...

How does the US Dollar differential back in 2006 explain why after increased ticket prices in the USA, the QoS take in the USA is now languishing compared to Casino Royale at the same point in time?

My dear girl, I specifically said "International grosses" with respect to the dollar differential.

As far as the US is concerned, what amount would make you think Q0S is on par with CR in the US Domestic? Objectively.