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[Blofeld's Cat]

Will a script rewrite happen to accommodate this accident, I wonder?

[Captain Tightpants]

Will a script rewrite happen to accommodate this accident, I wonder?

How would it be re-written? There were no cameras rolling when the accident happened, and the current script calls for Bond to make his escape. There are four other cars they can use to get the shots they were intending to take, and it would be impossible to explain how Bond managed to crash his car into the lake and then find another Aston Martin waiting for him.

If anything, the only change will be the order in which the sequence is shot, to accmodate for the time between the accident and getting another car shipped in. The accident probably won't influence the script in any way.

[marktmurphy]

A Daniel Craig double on the set:

I think that's Adam Kirley. The chap who did the car flip in Casino Royale.

I'm pretty sure it's not.

But this third one intrigues me more: it looks like a half-car??

Yeah it's an old XJS, doubtless being used as a camera car.

[marktmurphy]

The BBC's got a bit of video and some photos of the knackered Aston; looks like a big accident- he was very lucky.

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/7356916.stm

[Blofeld's Cat]

Will a script rewrite happen to accommodate this accident, I wonder?

How would it be re-written? There were no cameras rolling when the accident happened,...

Ah OK then. I thought filming was taking place. I should read more cafefully.

[MkB]

The BBC's got a bit of video and some photos of the knackered Aston; looks like a big accident- he was very lucky.

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/7356916.stm

Wow! It's a miracle the driver is safe and sound...
Do you think those metal bars inserted in the body of the car are pieces of the road barrier, or pieces of the contraption for filming?

On this youtube clip (not a real video, but a slideshow), some photos show an Aston Martin quite dented and with many bullet holes (this one presumably not for real... I hope ):

[marktmurphy]

Wow! It's a miracle the driver is safe and sound...
Do you think those metal bars inserted in the body of the car are pieces of the road barrier, or pieces of the contraption for filming?

I'm thinking it's the barrier- looks like it's a good thing they're using a left hand drive model- by the looks of how the barrier has cut through the body I can't imagine he'd have been in very good shape if he was sitting the other side! In fact I can't quite figure out how he got out okay anyway.

On this youtube clip (not a real video, but a slideshow), some photos show an Aston Martin quite dented and with many bullet holes (this one presumably not for real... I hope ):

Ooh lovely- thanks for posting all of these!

[Skudor]

Any news on how this is going to affect filming?

[frankwalker]

I'm thinking it's the barrier- looks like it's a good thing they're using a left hand drive model- by the looks of how the barrier has cut through the body I can't imagine he'd have been in very good shape if he was sitting the other side! In fact I can't quite figure out how he got out okay anyway.

Maybe the driver got out before the car actually fell off the cliff. Possibly it was dangling on the edge after it went though the barrier. Sounds like something out of the movies, but I can't see how the driver escaped without major injuries if he was in the car when it hit the water or rocks at the bottom of the cliff.

Most of the reports are saying the car was the only one available, but that sounds inaccurate - I thought they had 5.

***EDIT***
Just found this report here which says the driver actually stayed in the car, was knocked out and he came to after it sunk to a depth of 150 feet. Amazing he didn't get fatal head or neck injuries (or drown!).

http://www.telegraph...21/wbond121.xml

Edited by frankwalker, 21 April 2008 - 10:19 PM.

[MkB]

No?
I can't believe a) he survived the impact (seeing what the car looks like) and after this shock, managed to kick out of the car and swam up 15O feet alone to the surface
If this story is true, this man is the next James Bond!

Here's a video showing policemen and firemen looking at the wretched car. And you can hear one of them telling that the guy has been lucky, and asking: "But from where did he get out?"

This boy has a lucky star...

Also some footage from a Brazilian TV, showing the late Aston Martin being taken away on a lorry :`(


PS: I quite like the Daily Mail title: "Dry Another Day: Bond's Aston Martin crashes into lake - on its way to movie set"

[Professor Dent]

Good videos, MkB. The car does look much worse than the photos depicted. It is amazing he got out with his head intact.

[frankwalker]

Possibly he was thrown into a sideways position in the car before it crashed into the water upside down (assuming that's what crushed the roof) and that's what saved him from head/neck injuries.

Or ... maybe the car crashed onto the water more-or-less upright and the roof was gradually crushed by water pressure as the car sunk to 150 feet. That could explain how he escaped head/neck injuries.

Something he says in the Telegraph article leaves question marks:

"I can't have been going that fast as another engineer was following me in a Fiat Punto. The next thing I remember is swimming up to the surface and the rescue people being there. How I managed to get out I will never know."

He would have gone through the barrier, hit the water and been knocked out, sunk to the bottom, came to, and returned to the surface all within a minute, but he says the rescue people were there when he surfaced. How could the rescue people have arrived there so fast? Or was he extremely lucky and they were already in the water and also nearby, ready for possible stunt driver accidents?

On Saturday the reports said he was put in a hyperbaric chamber at the hospital. That's what they would use if they suspected he might have "the bends" from rapidly coming to the surface.

Edited by frankwalker, 22 April 2008 - 05:16 AM.

[marktmurphy]

It can't have been 150ft, surely? Do lakes get that deep so close to a cliff? Amazing that he survived, though- I can't think how he got out. Very lucky guy.

[MkB]

Something he says in the Telegraph article leaves question marks:

"I can't have been going that fast as another engineer was following me in a Fiat Punto. The next thing I remember is swimming up to the surface and the rescue people being there. How I managed to get out I will never know."

Yes, this one intrigued me too. Maybe he meant that he has only two memories after the crash: swimming up, and the rescue people? Because surely, it cannot have been simultaneous.

marktmurphy: about the depth, according to Wikipedia the max. depth of Lake Garda is more than 1000ft (346 m), so it's quite possible. Besides, the rescue team that fished the car certainly knows the depth. But I'm not sure the guy really sank to the depth with the car... Maybe he managed to get out while the car was sinking.

[Captain Tightpants]

Something he says in the Telegraph article leaves question marks:

"I can't have been going that fast as another engineer was following me in a Fiat Punto. The next thing I remember is swimming up to the surface and the rescue people being there. How I managed to get out I will never know."

Yes, this one intrigued me too. Maybe he meant that he has only two memories after the crash: swimming up, and the rescue people? Because surely, it cannot have been simultaneous.

marktmurphy: about the depth, according to Wikipedia the max. depth of Lake Garda is more than 1000ft (346 m), so it's quite possible. Besides, the rescue team that fished the car certainly knows the depth. But I'm not sure the guy really sank to the depth with the car... Maybe he managed to get out while the car was sinking.

Most of the initial reports say he got out before the car managed to sink. I know a few are going on about how he sank to the bottom and then floated back up to the top and got out before the car sank again, but even when your car is structually perfect - and I might be going out on a limb here, I'm pretty sure the Aston wasn't when it started taking on water - I'm pretty sure it's phycailly impossible for a car to flaot back up to the top. Sure, there's a bubble of air, but there's the whole rest-of-the-car weighing it down.

It's also likely that the driver was able to pull himself out as normal, but forgot how he did it because of the shock. I've been in a relatively minor car accident, and eighteen months later, there are entire gaps in my memory of both before and after. I remember enough to fill maybe two of the forty-five minutes surrounding the crash, all of it due to the fact that I was in shock at the time.

Edited by Captain Tightpants, 22 April 2008 - 12:57 PM.

[Ace Roberts]

So I don't want to come across callous - I realize this was a horrible accident and everything - and the guy was hurt badly and is lucky to be alive - but this happened days ago. Did the unit cease all filming activities and there has been nothing further to report? Or have they in fact continued filming? The cost of rescehduling something of this magnitude is astronomical - and could impact the release date if the delays are lengthy. Does anyone know anything? Especially those who have shared from on the scene!!

[marktmurphy]

Well we didn't hear all that much beforehand- I'm sure they're still shooting.

The pic here even suggests that there was a press conference two days ago:
http://movies.monste...ston_Martin_car

Haven't heard much else from it, perhaps because the crash was the more interesting story.

[MkB]

http://www.leggonlin...olo.php?id=7982

Funny fact: following the now famous accident, the James Bond car has been inflicted a fine for excessive speed "for the first time in the world", and Dunn Fraser has been convoked by the police
A policemen who has been on the scene of the accident says this seemed "surreal".

The pic here even suggests that there was a press conference two days ago:
http://movies.monste...ston_Martin_car

Haven't heard much else from it, perhaps because the crash was the more interesting story.

This event was called "Quantum of Garda", and organized by an Italian Bond fan club. Here's a link to the program:
http://blog.myspace....logID=376019775
The press conference took place on Sunday with Dan Bradley, Anthony Waye, and Guido Cerasuolo.

[HildebrandRarity]

The Aston remained on the surface for several seconds which gave Fraser Dunn sufficient enough time to bail before the car began to sink.

[MkB]

About the aforementioned event / press conference, BadTaste.it gives some new details (in Italian), and most of them have already been translated into English here.

An interesting detail: it is said that the Aston Martin that ended in the Lake wasn't planned to be used on set, but to appear at the Quantum of Garda event. So, there's surely no need toi worry avout filming

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

'Quantum of Solace' Press Conference Held This Past Weekend

'Quantum of Garda' at Tremosine, Italy

[Qwerty]

'The whole thing was a bit James Bond like'

Aston Martin driver comments on the incident and feels lucky to be alive

[deth]

if he really went down all the way to the bottom, then wow... an almost impossibly lucky dude...

[HildebrandRarity]

The Aston remained on the surface for several seconds which gave Fraser Dunn sufficient enough time to bail before the car began to sink.

Obviously, I stand corrected. Fraser is one lucky bastard not to have been trapped under the caved-in and twisted chassis.

[MkB]

Sad news: it has just been published on Tgcom.it that a new accident involving a car has occurred, directly on the QoS set this time:

[box]007, nuovo incidente sul set
Grave stuntman, maledizione sul film

Nuovo incidente sul set dell'ultimo film di 007 "Quantum of solace". Uno sturtman

[Koskov]

Eek! That doesn't sound good

[Jack Spang]

The PTS scene in CR was to short (pity they cut the cricket ground scene out as they just didn't do justice to Bond's earing of his 00 status)and now the PTS of QOS sounds like it will be to long. If the Sienna roof running scenes aren't in the PTS then this would be okay. Plus, if they aren't but they are at the start of the film I really hope there is a non action scene between the opening credits and this Sienna scene that lasts a decent while. The film needs to take a breather.

"007: new accident on set
A stuntman injured, curse on the film"

"New accident on the set of the last 007 film Quantum of Solace: a stuntman has been injured, apparently seriously, during a scene that involved a car and a lorry, in Limone on the Garda Lake (Brescia). The stuntman was behind the wheel of the car that hit the lorry. The man has been admitted to the resuscitation department at the Borgo Trento hospital of Verona."

To hell with being a stuntman! Poor guy. Sounds like it will indeed be a spectacular scene what with the stuntman actually hurting himself and not just in a minor way.

Edited by Jack Spang, 23 April 2008 - 06:50 PM.

[HildebrandRarity]

There have been some bad accidents on previous Bonds and, indeed, deaths on film sets through history. In the old days, stuntmen deaths were covered up by the Hollywood studios.

Perhaps they'll do a Ben Hur on Q0S and leave this latest episode in the final cut, "in the interests of art" of course. Dare I say this will heighten anticipation for the film as any publicity is good publicity. The stuntman will no doubt get a bonus.

[marktmurphy]

Gosh I hope he's okay- that sounds really bad.
Let's hope that the reporter is being over-sensational and it's not that bad.

[MkB]

According to this other article, the most seriously injured stuntman is Greek, his colleague is Italian, and they were in one of the Alfa Romeos, that hit a lorry before being thrown against a wall.