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[Vauxhall]

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Yeah, I know. Some of the answers are just nut! Mad Hatter? Calender Man?....I'm so glad this is Nolan's world. This will never happen.

Hugo Strange would seem the best of those options in my opinion. None of them seem great suggestions though.

[killkenny kid]

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Yeah, I know. Some of the answers are just nut! Mad Hatter? Calender Man?....I'm so glad this is Nolan's world. This will never happen.

Hugo Strange would seem the best of those options in my opinion. None of them seem great suggestions though.

Indeed, from this list Strange could be a nice fit.

[Harmsway]

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Yeah, I know. Some of the answers are just nut! Mad Hatter? Calender Man?....I'm so glad this is Nolan's world. This will never happen.

I don't know... there's something to be said for some of the lesser known nutjobs showing up to demonstrate that Gotham's gone downhill and that there are a lot of less successful would-be costumed foes. The Mad Hatter is perfect for that, especially if you take the kidnapper/pedophile route that has been done in the comics from recent times.

Calendar Man, though, I can't see working in a film. He's used to brilliant effect in a Hannibal Lecter role in THE LONG HALLOWEEN, but I just don't see it for a film.

[Mister Asterix]

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Yeah, I know. Some of the answers are just nut! Mad Hatter? Calender Man?....I'm so glad this is Nolan's world. This will never happen.

I don't know... there's something to be said for some of the lesser known nutjobs showing up to demonstrate that Gotham's gone downhill and that there are a lot of less successful would-be costumed foes. The Mad Hatter is perfect for that, especially if you take the kidnapper/pedophile route that has been done in the comics from recent times.

Calendar Man, though, I can't see working in a film. He's used to brilliant effect in a Hannibal Lecter role in THE LONG HALLOWEEN, but I just don't see it for a film.

I’d go with Black Mask, Scarface and the Ventriloquist, and Harley Quinn (who essentially could be a stand-in for the Joker while he’s in Arkham).

[Vauxhall]

Nice suggestions. I've always been keen for them to use Harley Quinn in the movies, but have never realistically envisaged it happening. I'm trying to think of possible actresses now for the role - Hilary Swank perhaps?

[Harmsway]

What would the point of using Harley Quinn be? I understand if the Joker's around... but on her own? What could she possibly contribute?

[Mister Asterix]

Well, if you take the ‘Birds of Prey’ take on the character with Harley is a psychologist you could give her both Hugo Strange and Joker type plot points. I wouldn’t use her as a main villain, but since they had planned for the Joker to appear in a smaller role in Caped Crusader (or whatever they call it ) perhaps Harley do the Joker’s bits while the Joker masterminds unseen from Arkham.

[killkenny kid]

And now, David S. Goyer speaks up....

http://www.scifi.com...c...=3&id=58374

[killkenny kid]

And this could be great!

http://www.newsarama...ht-returns.html

[Harmsway]

And this could be great!

http://www.newsarama...ht-returns.html

Eh, I'm not that impressed by the ideas that article presents.

[coco1997]

"TDKR" would work with a few exceptions:

1. Superman and Wonder Woman could not exist.
2. Batman's "retirement" would have to be much shorter.
3. They'd have to get an actor who could REALLY live up to Ledger's Joker.
4.

Spoiler

We would have to assume from "TDK" that Two-Face isn't really dead.

[Harmsway]

"TDKR" would work with a few exceptions:

1. Superman and Wonder Woman could not exist.
2. Batman's "retirement" would have to be much shorter.
3. They'd have to get an actor who could REALLY live up to Ledger's Joker.
4.

Spoiler

We would have to assume from "TDK" that Two-Face isn't really dead.

Well, Two-Face's role in DKR isn't exactly central. It could very easily be streamlined out.

Personally, I'd just rather see Nolan develop his own third installment, rather than doing a watered-down DKR. There's much more to be done, narratively speaking, in the progression of Batman as a figure and the state of Gotham City before we ever get to the "final days of Batman."

But it's really just a pipe dream. No such DKR film will ever happen, at least not until Nolan's finished.

[sharpshooter]

I don't like the proposal. If you are to do TDKR, you do it properly and in the correct context. Let Nolan do his own thing.

[00Twelve]

Regarding potential Riddler casting, what about Michael Emerson? Would that be too much of a Lost fanwank? He's certainly cerebral and sinister enough, with just a touch of mania that leads his Linus character to do some pretty extreme things.

[sharpshooter]

Regarding potential Riddler casting, what about Michael Emerson? Would that be too much of a Lost fanwank? He's certainly cerebral and sinister enough, with just a touch of mania that leads his Linus character to do some pretty extreme things.

He'd be my number one pick.

[Harmsway]

There are countless other actors I'd want over Emerson. Emerson, frankly, isn't that good of an actor.

[Publius]

Regarding potential Riddler casting, what about Michael Emerson? Would that be too much of a Lost fanwank? He's certainly cerebral and sinister enough, with just a touch of mania that leads his Linus character to do some pretty extreme things.

I'd be more interested to see what Terry O'Quinn could do, although I think he'd be an even better Lex Luthor for the in-desperate-need-of-a-TDK-equivalent Superman franchise. And I don't say that just because he's bald.

Anyway, check out this fan-made teaser poster for Batman 3: http://sophosmoros.f...-fan-poster.jpg

[dodge]

Regarding potential Riddler casting, what about Michael Emerson? Would that be too much of a Lost fanwank? He's certainly cerebral and sinister enough, with just a touch of mania that leads his Linus character to do some pretty extreme things.

He'd be my number one pick.

I think Emerson would rock, as well. But a far more interesting choice could be William Fichtner--an actor you've probably seen dozens of times but whose name you might not recognize. He's currently part of the Prison Break ensemble. He had a small part in TDK as the doomed shotgun-firing bank employee. Etc. Very subtle actor, capable of playing anything from psychos to sympathetic leads.

[Safari Suit]

I'd be more interested to see what Terry O'Quinn could do

The Stepfather? Always a delight to see him in villainous roles. Or Jeffrey Combs...

[[dark]]

Emerson, frankly, isn't that good of an actor.

Are you kidding? Emerson is one of the most nuanced actors out there and deserves much more praise than he gets. I should be disappointed that the Lost castaways have shifted out of the spotlight because of his character, but Emerson is such a revelation as Ben Linus that his centric episodes are easily among my favourites. As a Batman villain, though, I don't know. Outside of the baddies done in the Burton/Schumacher films, I'm not up on the Batman villains.

I think Emerson would rock, as well. But a far more interesting choice could be William Fichtner--an actor you've probably seen dozens of times but whose name you might not recognize. He's currently part of the Prison Break ensemble. He had a small part in TDK as the doomed shotgun-firing bank employee. Etc. Very subtle actor, capable of playing anything from psychos to sympathetic leads.

Fichtner is phenomenal. He has such a unique look - you don't know what's happening behind his eyes. Like Emerson, you know an actor is great when they enter a TV series mid-run as a main player and succeed beyond expectations. Maybe it's a stretch, but is there any potential for his Dark Knight character to evolve into a villain? He didn't explicitly die, did he?

[Scrambled Eggs]

Emerson, frankly, isn't that good of an actor.

Are you kidding? Emerson is one of the most nuanced actors out there and deserves much more praise than he gets. I should be disappointed that the Lost castaways have shifted out of the spotlight because of his character, but Emerson is such a revelation as Ben Linus that his centric episodes are easily among my favourites. As a Batman villain, though, I don't know. Outside of the baddies done in the Burton/Schumacher films, I'm not up on the Batman villains.

I'm a fan of Lost but I wouldnt give Emerson that sort of praise. He's good (and frankly, he's a lot better than much of the cast of Lost) but I couldnt imagine him delivering anything near as good as Heath Ledger's performance.

[[dark]]

Emerson, frankly, isn't that good of an actor.

Are you kidding? Emerson is one of the most nuanced actors out there and deserves much more praise than he gets. I should be disappointed that the Lost castaways have shifted out of the spotlight because of his character, but Emerson is such a revelation as Ben Linus that his centric episodes are easily among my favourites. As a Batman villain, though, I don't know. Outside of the baddies done in the Burton/Schumacher films, I'm not up on the Batman villains.

I'm a fan of Lost but I wouldnt give Emerson that sort of praise. He's good (and frankly, he's a lot better than much of the cast of Lost) but I couldnt imagine him delivering anything near as good as Heath Ledger's performance.

Tragically, I think few actors out there could. Ledger's performance will hang over not just any future interpretation of The Joker, but any future Batman villain period. It will also hang over not just any future Batman film, but more pertinently, the next one.

Still, I see Emerson as one of the few actors out there who has such presence when on-screen that you become unaware of everything else that's happening.

[deth]

I could see Robert Downey Jr. pulling it off....

[[dark]]

I could see Robert Downey Jr. pulling it off....

He could, but two points:

• Would Downey want to be linked to two major comic book franchises? And more pertinently, two major comic book franchises from the two competing comic book stablehouses?
• With Iron Man catapulting him back on the A-list, he's too much of a name. Nolan has a great knack for hiring maybe not lesser-known actors, but perhaps less obvious choices. When Ledger was first announced as The Joker, I was completely unconvinced. And Eckhart seemed an interesting but dull choice as Dent. Both blew me away. In my opinion, Nolan's only misfire was Cillian Murphy, who looks way too young for such a role.

Pre-Iron Man, Downey Jr. would totally be a contender. But that ship has sailed.

[Harmsway]

Emerson, frankly, isn't that good of an actor.

Are you kidding? Emerson is one of the most nuanced actors out there and deserves much more praise than he gets.

I respectfully, and strongly, disagree.

My choice is Casey Affleck.

[Judo chop]

Emerson, frankly, isn't that good of an actor.

Are you kidding? Emerson is one of the most nuanced actors out there and deserves much more praise than he gets.

I respectfully, and strongly, disagree.

My two choices are Neil Patrick Harris or Casey Affleck.

After seeing ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES..., I think he’d make a marvelous Riddler that I dare say might even be able to stand in the ring with Ledger’s Joker performance.

What a twitchy little worm that guy can play! Disturbed, creepy, unstable, suggestive of serious childhood trauma, and I'll bet capable of achieving total malevolent giddiness. Which is what the Riddler's about as far as I know. (I only know the Riddler for what he’s intended to be in the TV show, cartoons and Carey’s go at it. I don’t know the comic version, but I assume those others were at least roughly based on the comic character. I would suppose that all that’s been missing is the serious approach. Given that, Affleck has got what it takes.)

[[dark]]

I only know the Riddler for what he’s intended to be in the TV show, cartoons and Carey’s go at it. I don’t know the comic version, but I assume those others were at least roughly based on the comic character.

Yeah, I'm only familiar with the Riddler from the TV series and Batman Forever; can someone share what the Riddler of the comics is like - and how he might fit in with Nolan's Batman universe?

[Safari Suit]

Is it true the comic Riddler never kills?

[Judo chop]

Seriously. Say one thing about how Batman is supposed to have Robin, and a million comicbook gurus appear to beat you down with eggs and rotten cabbage.

Where are these guys when you need them?!

[Mister Asterix]

I only know the Riddler for what he’s intended to be in the TV show, cartoons and Carey’s go at it. I don’t know the comic version, but I assume those others were at least roughly based on the comic character.

Yeah, I'm only familiar with the Riddler from the TV series and Batman Forever; can someone share what the Riddler of the comics is like - and how he might fit in with Nolan's Batman universe?

The Riddler was a minor villain in the comics who was simply a half-rate Joker until Gorshin’s portrayal on the old TV show. After that the comic character became shaped by Gorshin. So if you know the television version, you know the Riddler.