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[S K Y F A L L]

Its a sad story. Best wishes to those families.


What was Ra's Al Ghul's scenes like? Anything significant?

[thecasinoroyale]

Well, look if you wish S K Y F A L L - as you asked, I won't say too much...

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Ra's does appear when Bruce is in prison, after a confrontation with Bane and Liam Neeson has less than 5 minutes of screen time, but it's wonderful to see him back sharing some dialogue with Bale.

However, fear not, as revelations are made in this exchange about the situations being faced, and it's not clear to Bruce, or viewers, as to whether Ra's appeared only as a vision in his weakened state.

His younger self also is on very little screen-time, but reveals a fantastic amount of narrative to link the films.

Anything else you wish to know?

[thecasinoroyale]

Update on 'TDKR' shooting today....

Drop-out PhD student who massacred 12 at Batman movie screening looked like and said he was the JOKER


Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz21CUA4zTp

[Tarl_Cabot]

Dove, go get your batman on, man. Don't let that deranged fool ruin your wekend.

[thecasinoroyale]

Here here Tarl!

As Thomas Wayne said... "Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up."


The film keeps going over and over in my head...I know I'll have to see it again to take it all in. Love Bane...really do. "Let the games begin!"

[hcmv007]

Very sad to hear what happened in Aurora this morning.

But dont let that deter anyone from going out to see this movie-if that's your choice this weekend. Very glad to know that individual is in custody, & not on the streets. Keep the victims in your prayers, God Bless.

[killkenny kid]

Indeed, I'm going again in two hours. I'm still very angry over the whole affair, But no lunatic is going to make me hide in fear.

[S K Y F A L L]

Well, look if you wish S K Y F A L L - as you asked, I won't say too much...

Spoiler

Ra's does appear when Bruce is in prison, after a confrontation with Bane and Liam Neeson has less than 5 minutes of screen time, but it's wonderful to see him back sharing some dialogue with Bale.

However, fear not, as revelations are made in this exchange about the situations being faced, and it's not clear to Bruce, or viewers, as to whether Ra's appeared only as a vision in his weakened state.

His younger self also is on very little screen-time, but reveals a fantastic amount of narrative to link the films.

Anything else you wish to know?

That is pretty cool, I'll have to avoid anymore spoilers though. I don't want to know too too much. Thanks.

[KM16]

You'll really want to, Skyfall. The film pays off in so many ways and this is the most satisfied I've EVER felt coming out of a film trilogy. No threequel curse here.

[DamnCoffee]

I cried 5 times during this film. Honestly, oh my god. Michael Caine made me cry 4 of these times. I'm not even going to attempt a review yet. Brilliant film!

[killkenny kid]

You'll really want to, Skyfall. The film pays off in so many ways and this is the most satisfied I've EVER felt coming out of a film trilogy. No threequel curse here.

That sums it up for as well. Very emotional for me on many levels......btw I had no idea that Anne Hathaway was sooo sexy.

[Vauxhall]

Absolutely tremendous movie, which left me leaving the cinema almost euphoric at how satisfying a conclusion to the trilogy it was. Christian Bale was great, but I was most pleased that the incredible supporting cast were given the opportunity to display their strengths - Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Anne Hathaway and Michael Caine were my personal highlights. I'll probably have more to say later, but yes, THE DARK KNIGHT RISES didn't disappoint at all.

[thecasinoroyale]

That sums it up for as well. Very emotional for me on many levels......btw I had no idea that Anne Hathaway was sooo sexy.

I second that about Miss Hathaway...had me squirming in my seat in some scenes!

[killkenny kid]

That sums it up for as well. Very emotional for me on many levels......btw I had no idea that Anne Hathaway was sooo sexy.

I second that about Miss Hathaway...had me squirming in my seat in some scenes!

AMAZING the same thing happened to me, I just didn't have the balls to say it.

[byline]

The chilling real-life tragedy was very much in the back of my mind as hubby and I watched in the theatre yesterday. Strangely enough, the theme of the film directly opposes the actions of this deranged gunman, and for me that's the film's triumph. It moves a bit too slowly in the first half, tries to explain a wee bit too much for my tastes, yet the second half offers tremendous satisfaction. For an action film, it explores an amazing range of emotional territory. I hope that people who are disturbed, understandably so, by what happened will not be permanently dissuaded from seeing this film. I don't normally offer such praise for a blockbuster; I tend to prefer smaller, quieter films. But this one is worth it.

[Chief of SIS]

Very good. Not great. Pacing felt off and easily and probably should have been scaled back by about 30 minutes. One thing I must admit that bothered me was the handling of Bruce Wayne and his struggle to separate Batman from his life. Nolan explores this really well in the Dark Knight but seems to fumble what the comics have long said in TDKR, Bruce Wayne and Batman are indistinguishable. And

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for Bruce to seemingly walk away in the end contently was a slap in the face to the actual struggles of Bruce Wayne.

I understand Nolan's desire to cap the series. He did it relatively superbly. But the whole film felt like a conclusion instead of a strong movie on its own legs.

[DamnCoffee]

I think the ending is open to interpretation.

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I personally belive that Batman/Bruce Wayne did die, and the whole scene with Alfred at the end was him just imagining what could've been.

[The Dove]

At the theater, waiting for The Dark Knight Rises to begin..IMAX was all sold out so had to settle for a regular showing...will be sure to book in advance for IMAX this coming week..

[killkenny kid]

I can see where you are going, Mharkin. But I feel they wouldn't make such a big deal about the software program, if what you think was true.

[DamnCoffee]

The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

I would've posted this review sooner, but it's taken me a while to get over how brilliant it is, so I can judge it on it's own merits. There's a lot to like about this film, and I've been racking my brains for a while thinking about what's not to like, but I've came to the conclusion that there's hardly anything. The film is brilliant, and it's probably the strongest entry of the trilogy.

Everything in this movie is near perfect, from the cinematography, to the pacing (Which puts it leagues above The Dark Knight straight away), to the genuinely heartbreaking scenes involving Bruce Wayne and his faithful butler Alfred. I can honestly say that I've never cried so much in a film in my entire life. Every scene involving Michael Caine is just heart wrenching, and the last half of the film is beyond excellent.

Christian Bale puts in a brilliant performance as Bruce Wayne, which in my opinion in his strongest to date. The thing I liked about this film most though, is the fact that it hasn't followed in the footsteps of 'The Dark Knight', and went down more of a 'Batman Begins' route. This is Bruce Wayne and Gotham central, which in itself is a perfect way to wrap up the series. Then we have the fact that this is not a superhero movie, far from it. This is probably the most real and down to earth Batman film you'll see and what the film manages to do, is maintain such a strong and personal connection to the characters and at the same time and give it such a massive scope. The thing that struck me the most though. is that this is not a conventional Batman film, and more like an extremely character driven art house film. It deals mostly with Gotham without a hero, and I think thats where the most successful aspect lies. I also love that this is Bruce Wayne central. Batman is hardly ever featured, and I really do feel that this was a very risky, but wise move. It was very important that it focused on the Bruce Wayne character, because that's where the true heart and emotion lives.

As mentioned before, I found it really difficult to find flaws in this film. It does have a few plot holes (How did Bruce get back into Gotham, etc), but you know what? It really doesn't matter. The film is so strong in it's own right that I can gladly overlook it's flaws. I found Bane a tad underused, but I think the fact that The Dark Knight Rises focuses more on loss, and the people of Gotham adjusting to a world without Batman, then It makes sense for him to be confined to the background.

I can't really make up my mind whether or not I prefer this to Batman Begins, but it's definately on par, and I've never once been thus emotional connected to a film, so I have a feeling that this could very well be my favourite chapter in the trilogy. I'm not going to say that I've loved The Dark Knight Trilogy over the years. I've only just recently rediscovered Batman Begins, I really didn't think much of it the first time, but soon entered my top 10 film list. While I really enjoy The Dark Knight, I still think it's very flawed, but now that the series has concluded. I am feeling an overwhelming sense of loss. So thank you Christopher Nolan, for restoring my faith in cinema, and taking the time to deliver and intelligent and exciting range of films.

★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Edited by Mharkin, 21 July 2012 - 07:18 PM.

[Dustin]

The chilling real-life tragedy was very much in the back of my mind as hubby and I watched in the theatre yesterday. Strangely enough, the theme of the film directly opposes the actions of this deranged gunman, and for me that's the film's triumph.
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I hope that people who are disturbed, understandably so, by what happened will not be permanently dissuaded from seeing this film. I don't normally offer such praise for a blockbuster; I tend to prefer smaller, quieter films. But this one is worth it.

Very well said.

Please, do not let one deranged individual - or a number of them - take control of your life. This was a sick and depraved act by a person that could and would have used any pretence regardless. If you want to see the film - just do it.

Edited by Dustin, 21 July 2012 - 07:41 PM.

[Vauxhall]

I think any ambiguities about the ending are based on Nolan's reputation for deception more than anything else. I think the ending was probably intended exactly as shown on screen, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt a surging inside of me as the music swelled for the last time. Tremendous, and dangerously close to a Nolan feel-good film!

[thecasinoroyale]

One of the things I found a bit of a dissapointment was...

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How easily Bane was finished off by Catwoman and the Bat-pod. Considering how much I was into Batman vs Bane to be one of the most dramatic and memorable fight sequences of recent years (Bane breaking the Bat? BRILLIANT!!), so I really, really wanted Bane to be sent off in a dramatic way, either involving his mask or just sheer determination by Batman, I was very sad to see Catwoman pull a trigger to do it.

I actually loved seeing Bane fumble to repair his mask once Batman got the upper-hand. That and his backstory made him so much more human, bloody excellent character and very, very good work by Tom Hardy.

[The Dove]

OH...MY....F#$KING GOD!! That was an INCREDIBLE flick!! I'm still chewing over and processing the total AWESOMNESS that is The Dark Knight Rises...wow..so much to digest.. Tried to go see it in IMAX so that I could hopefully experience the new Skyfall trailer, but all the showings for today in IMAX were sold out by the time I got there..dammit!! Oh well, perhaps this week (why, oh why did EON ONLY release the new Skyfall trailer for the IMAX showings??).. Anyways..wow...while Batman Begins is still my personal favorite of the trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises has definitely surpassed The Dark Knight...though not by much...All three films form perhaps one of the few trilogies where each film is equally solid interms of contributing to the whole picture.. Final grades of the films in my opinion.. Batman Begins : A+, The Dark Knight: A-, The Dark Knight Rises: A... More thoughts to come from me later...

[Arbogast777]

Regarding the ending...

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I don't think it was ambiguous at all - Bruce was in the cafe and Alfred saw him. The think the answer lies in how many times Bruce and Fox mentioned that The Bat had an autopilot mode...

[DamnCoffee]

Regarding the ending...

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I don't think it was ambiguous at all - Bruce was in the cafe and Alfred saw him. The think the answer lies in how many times Bruce and Fox mentioned that The Bat had an autopilot mode...

Hmmm, that could be the case but...

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Thinking about it realistically, the bomb had a radius of 6 miles. Even if it did had an autopilot mode, there's no way you could escape that. I think the ending is deliberately open to interpretation. Like Inception. I personally think Bruce Wayne was killed, and the scene at the end was only there to give Alfred some closure. I think he was thinking of what could've been. He's dwelled on that thought for so long, Plus, Alfred had this thought when he knew Bruce was alive. I think if he was dead, the circumstances would've changed and not just left with a nod.

[Arbogast777]

Logically you are right with what you said, but I still think those mentions were in there in purpose to give us a definite answer.

Also,

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I still think if Alfred was imagining it, he wouldn't have imagined Salina with Bruce

[coco1997]

My spin on the ending:

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What was the final shot of the film? I was so overcome by excitement and emotion during those last few seconds that I forgot what the very last shot was. I seem to remember it was Blake/Robin discovering the Batcave, which was all happening in reality. If I'm remembering correctly, then the sequencing of that specific shot, with Alfred spotting Bruce and Selina in the cafe, makes me believe that it was actually happening and not just a dream/mirage of Alfred's. I think if it had been the very last shot of the film, it would then be much more open to interpretation that it wasn't real. I also agree with the above poster who said that Alfred probably wouldn't have imagined Bruce sitting with Selina. It would've made much more sense that he saw him sitting across the table from Rachel, or from some totally fictional woman we'd never seen before.

Another loose thread with Bruce and Selina being together in Italy is the question of how Selina found Bruce. I suppose you could say he found a way to contact her, although the device he gave her allowed her to completely wipe any trace of her existence off the planet.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to imagine that Batman survived the blast if the BAT had an autopilot feature. He very well could've ejected before the craft got out of the bomb's radius.

Also note that the story draws heavily from Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns", in which Bruce Wayne fakes his death at the end. Take that for what it's worth.

[KM16]

I think it's a pretty solid ending.

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Bruce knew taking that bomb out would be it, he wanted an out as Batman and he saved Gotham from complete destruction. He felt he'd lived up to his promise to himself to protect the city his family helped build and wanted to move on with his life, which is why he gave Alfred the money, Gordon a new signal and Blake the location of the cave. Blake, in my eyes, would probably take on the Batman role. As they said in Batman Begins, "Training is nothing! Will is everything! The will to act." Blake definitely has the will through the course of the film, and his revulsion to guns after accidently killing that suspect ties perfectly well with that assumption. But again, as for Bruce, I agree with Arbogast. I don't really think it was his imagination as he was there with Selina. They mention at one point during the reading of the will that pearls were missing, I believe. The pearls that were tagged with a location device. I've only seen the movie once, but it's entirely possibly Bruce or Selina had the pearls on them which lead Alfred to the cafe again, Bruce knowing he'd be there to give his old friend some solace.

[coco1997]

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They mention at one point during the reading of the will that pearls were missing, I believe. The pearls that were tagged with a location device. I've only seen the movie once, but it's entirely possibly Bruce or Selina had the pearls on them which lead Alfred to the cafe again, Bruce knowing he'd be there to give his old friend some solace.

Ooh, I had completely forgotten about that! This is why I need to see the movie again, and soon!