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[DamnCoffee]

I'm really interested in The Road to Casino Royale feature, is this the indepth documentary Campbell was going on about?

[Qwerty]

Seems logical.

[DamnCoffee]

Hmmmm. Ian Fleming: The Secret Road to Paradise, sounds quite interesting as well.

[Loomis]

Good news. Will buy. However, I wonder whether the bonus material is really so extensive as to merit two discs - couldn't it all be put onto one? If so, then making this release a three-disc affair seems a bit shabby, not to mention wasteful - it implies that it's more of a bumper package than it really is.

Do we know anything about the "Becoming Bond documentary"? Hopefully it'll be a hugely candid and informative warts-and-all account of the hunt for Bond 6, featuring the screentests of Craig and others. Doubt it, though.

[iexpectu2die]

If the list does appear sparse to some, the 'Road to Casino Royale' documentary sounds like it could be pretty in-depth, like the main selling-point.

[Loomis]

Sparse? Nah, it looks like a good, solid package full of interesting stuff. I suspect not three discs' worth of stuff, though. What I reckon we have here is an excellent two-disc edition (making up for the rather un-stocked two-disc edition of last year, which was basically a single-disc affair with ideas above its station) that's rather indulgently and misleadingly spread out over three discs. Still, better than a slap in the face.

[DamnCoffee]

Are these the final special features? Because I'm under the impression that there are more to come.

[Royal Dalton]

Do we know anything about the "Becoming Bond documentary"? Hopefully it'll be a hugely candid and informative warts-and-all account of the hunt for Bond 6, featuring the screentests of Craig and others. Doubt it, though.

That one's already on the 2-disc version. It's that promo prog that was shown on ITV when the film came out.

[Harmsway]

I'll be happy (as I already am), but there will always be a little EE-shaped hole in my heart until I get to see the film with the 'good' scenes worked back in.

That assumes that there is indeed good material that should have stayed in the film to begin with. I'm not so convinced of that.

[Tarl_Cabot]

It would have been nice if they had thrown us this bone on the first DVD edition.

[Qwerty]

If the list does appear sparse to some, the 'Road to Casino Royale' documentary sounds like it could be pretty in-depth, like the main selling-point.

Agreed. Perhaps it'll be a 12-part or so documentary running at 7 hours.

Anything will be an improvement over the 90 minutes of extras on the initial Casino Royale DVD.

[Loomis]

Do we know anything about the "Becoming Bond documentary"? Hopefully it'll be a hugely candid and informative warts-and-all account of the hunt for Bond 6, featuring the screentests of Craig and others. Doubt it, though.

That one's already on the 2-disc version. It's that promo prog that was shown on ITV when the film came out.

Really? Gee, thanks.

[Double-0-Seven]

Nice to have the special features and a release date confirmed. I must say that was rather quick.

The next thing I'll be excited to see is the cover art and packaging for the DVD.

[DamnCoffee]

The next thing I'll be excited to see is the cover art and packaging for the DVD.

Yes, I'm also quite excited to see the packaging design.

[dinovelvet]

What is this "DVD" nonsense? Where's the word on the Blu-Ray version?

[tdalton]

What is this "DVD" nonsense? Where's the word on the Blu-Ray version?

I'm kind of doubting that we're going to see a Blu-ray release of this particular edition. To the best of my knowledge, the only re-releases of films already available on the format have been because the video transfer on the original Blu-ray edition was subpar, and the re-release was to correct that problem (I believe that Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket was an example of this, as was The Fifth Element). I doubt many of these extras were filmed in HD anyway, so I doubt that there would be much benefit in another Blu-ray release, not to mention that the current adoption rate of the format isn't enough to warrant yet another release of the film.

Of course, a Blu-ray edition could very well be announced, but if it is, I would expect the announcement very soon, but I do doubt that they'll be bringing this edition to the format.

[Righty007]

What is this "DVD" nonsense? Where's the word on the Blu-Ray version?

DVDs aren't obsolete yet.

A Blu-ray version will most likely be released the same day. All new releases for newer films have both a DVD and BD version these days.

[HH007]

The next thing I'll be excited to see is the cover art and packaging for the DVD.

Yes, I'm also quite excited to see the packaging design.

I hope they go with the teaser poster.

[dinovelvet]

What is this "DVD" nonsense? Where's the word on the Blu-Ray version?

DVDs aren't obsolete yet.

A Blu-ray version will most likely be released the same day. All new releases for newer films have both a DVD and BD version these days.

I was joking with the DVD nonsense thing. Its Sony, so I'm sure it'll be out on Blu.

BTW I'd like to see the theatrical trailers for Casino Royale on this edition, they are both masterpieces. (and a QoS trailer too!)

[Harmsway]

What is this "DVD" nonsense? Where's the word on the Blu-Ray version?

DVDs aren't obsolete yet.

Indeed. DVD is still the dominant home theater format, and I imagine it will stay that way for quite some time. In fact, I'll wager that Blu-Ray DVD never becomes dominant. Odds are, by the time Blu-Ray is poised to take hold of the DVD market, a newer and hotter format will be available.

Heck, everything's moving towards downloadable features anyway.

[tdalton]

What is this "DVD" nonsense? Where's the word on the Blu-Ray version?

DVDs aren't obsolete yet.

Indeed. DVD is still the dominant home theater format, and I imagine it will stay that way for quite some time. In fact, I'll wager that Blu-Ray DVD never becomes dominant. Odds are, by the time Blu-Ray is poised to take hold of the DVD market, a newer and hotter format will be available.

Heck, everything's moving towards downloadable features anyway.

Completely agreed with you. I do hope, however, that downloads don't become the new "format" for movies in the future. As far as Blu-ray is concerned, like you, I don't see it happening for them in terms of ever defeating DVD. It took them far too long to take down HD-DVD, even though they had considerably more movie studios and other electronic companies on their side than did HD-DVD. Also, as long as someone can play a $15 DVD on a relatively cheap up-conversion DVD player, then the $30-$40 Blu-ray movies that offer inconsistent levels of improvement over the up-converted DVD (at least compared to the difference between VHS and DVD) are never going to take over the market.

Also, one can only imagine how much a Blu-ray edition of the 3-disc CASINO ROYALE would cost. Probably close to $50, which isn't worth it considering the only new worthwhile feature on the disc are the deleted scenes and the new making-of documentary.

[HH007]

What is this "DVD" nonsense? Where's the word on the Blu-Ray version?

DVDs aren't obsolete yet.

Indeed. DVD is still the dominant home theater format, and I imagine it will stay that way for quite some time. In fact, I'll wager that Blu-Ray DVD never becomes dominant. Odds are, by the time Blu-Ray is poised to take hold of the DVD market, a newer and hotter format will be available.

Heck, everything's moving towards downloadable features anyway.

Completely agreed with you. I do hope, however, that downloads don't become the new "format" for movies in the future. As far as Blu-ray is concerned, like you, I don't see it happening for them in terms of ever defeating DVD. It took them far too long to take down HD-DVD, even though they had considerably more movie studios and other electronic companies on their side than did HD-DVD. Also, as long as someone can play a $15 DVD on a relatively cheap up-conversion DVD player, then the $30-$40 Blu-ray movies that offer inconsistent levels of improvement over the up-converted DVD (at least compared to the difference between VHS and DVD) are never going to take over the market.

Also, one can only imagine how much a Blu-ray edition of the 3-disc CASINO ROYALE would cost. Probably close to $50, which isn't worth it considering the only new worthwhile feature on the disc are the deleted scenes and the new making-of documentary.

I think the commentary would be pretty worthwhile.

[Ozzel]

I'm a little worried that they aren't waving around word "uncut" (as DVD marketing so often does), for this may indeed mean Regions 1 & 2 will be getting screwed again (us with cuts to the PTS & stairwell fights and you guys with the torture scene). It will be quite a disappointment if they don't deliver the uncut version that was on the Region 3 DVD.

[Professor Dent]

Assuming the bonus were produced in SD, there would be no point in rebuying the same Blu-Ray.
In fact, I fail to understand the rationale these days of including on a Blu-Ray disc SD bonuses. Why not just add the 2nd disc of the SD version, like they did for Blade Runner ?

Since making that second disc a standard disc makes complete sense, it will probably never happen. I am curious to see how the Blu-ray version is handled here &, if they go for the double dip, what they give as the reason(s) to buy it again. HD extras would be obvious but if it's a remastered picture & lossless sound that sounds even more lossless...

[Qwerty]

I'm hoping for two or three commentaries. Would love one with some of the film's stars and/or other crew members.

In any event, the commentary between Martin Campbell and the producers (I'm betting it'll just be Michael G. Wilson) should be great stuff. Their commentary together for GoldenEye is by far one of the most enjoyable in this entire series.

[col_007]

so no word on a uk release date yet then

[sharpshooter]

Their commentary together for GoldenEye is by far one of the most enjoyable in this entire series.

Indeed, very entertaining and informative that one.

[stamper]

Original release of Casino Royale was :

- 1 dual layer disc (around 7GB of data for the movie)

- 1 single layer disc (around 3.6GB of data for the bonuses

Unless the extra new bonuses could hold onto around 4GB (which I doubt), they HAD to make it a three disc set.

[Loomis]

But presumably they could just have one dual-layer disc for the bonus material?

The problem I have with what we're hearing so far is that this forthcoming re-release doesn't exactly seem to be the absolute treasure trove that a three-disc set implies. Frankly, it seems like money for old rope ("Becoming Bond", "Bond Girls Are Forever", the Cornell music video) and a couple of new things (e.g. a commentary, a documentary) spread out over two discs in order to give the impression of abundance and definitiveness and all the rest of it.

However, I gather that there may be more extras we haven't yet heard about, right?

[stamper]

I don't think a company would go towards the 3 disc route if the GB space was not needed, it might be a good way to publicise a DVD, but the added cost, especially at this scale, would be outstanding. Trust me, if they could have crammed all the bonuses onto 1 disc, they would have (or they would have deleted Bond Girls are Forever to make room), this is going to be worth the wait and the money.