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[blueman]

Campbell is an upgrade over Glen, but a marginal one on GE; the better script for CR did wonders for him, really took his game to another level I thought.

And yeah, I expect Forster to deliver the best-directed Bond since OHMSS. If it's not all that oh well, just think in his career he's showed great aptitude for genre work of all types, and that it should translate outstandingly to Bond. FWIW.

That's why I'm geeking on waiting for the trailer, to see if there's a hint of one way or the other...

[Royal Dalton]

Campbell is an upgrade over Glen

Not for me he's not. But those boys are in the past now anyway.

With a bit of luck, Forster will have given this one much more of a cinematic look than their films had.

Shame they haven't shot it using anamorphic lenses, though.

[DaveBond21]

Does anyone have any idea how soon the trailer will appear online from July 2nd onwards?

[Mr Ashdown]

John Glen wasn't crap but it's just that he was boring. He was a workman-like director with no real vision, his tired 80's work shows this.

Hmm. "Octopussy", perhaps the most schizophrenic Bond movie, with its flirtations with "Dr Strangelove" (the Russian war room) and its heavy kisses to Hitchcock (a hero disguised as a clown disarms a nuclear bomb), neverthless goes for a bright, vibrant, sensual look, with everything (costume, set design, photography) vivid and clearly defined; Roger Moore's James Bond looks every inch at home here, in this cinema world of silks and sunsets and impossible glamour. For once, Moore's brown voice and orange skin make him part of the scenery, as nice to look at at the landscape. The direction (what gets shown on screen) had real thought put into it, and desperately over-compensates for a spectacularly messy screenplay. Here, Glen the director is saving the movie, making it as classy, respectful, and attractive as he possibly can. The misjudged moments -- and we all know what they are -- are plagues EON wouldn't ever be cured of, permanently, until Daniel Craig's 007 kicked the out of a man in a bathroom. "Octopussy" looks great. It's a terrible movie saved by a director who clearly believed he could polish a turd.

Compare with "The Living Daylights". Same director, much, much better script, dynamic and fascinating leading actor. Glen knows this movie doesn't need saving -- it needs a cohesive, exciting, imaginative realisation, and it gets it. Look at that utterly sublime Vienna sequence, so obviously intended to be the anti-"Third Man", taking the iconic visuals of that earlier movie (all grubby and bleak and squalid, the personification of Harry Lime), and turning into a chocolate-box romance, full of warmth. And then, in Afghanistan, everything is as expansive and dangerous as the desert landscape. It's really, really good stuff.

John Glen directed some of my least favourite Bond movies, but there's always something in his films that I like, and usually it's a nice piece of direction.

Anyway. This trailer, huh? Bet it's fab!

[Harmsway]

Really? I think Campbell runs circles around Glen.

So do I. Campbell wasn't exactly an auteur but he brings alot of energy to his work.

His work on CASINO ROYALE was among the best in the series, and his direction on GOLDENEYE, while still relatively bland, had a better sense of style and energy than Glen's. For me, the name John Glen stands for mediocrity. I've never been a fan.

[dinovelvet]

Does anyone have any idea how soon the trailer will appear online from July 2nd onwards?

It'll be online before July 2. I don't remember any major league trailer only being available on the net AFTER it was in theatres.

[DaveBond21]

Does anyone have any idea how soon the trailer will appear online from July 2nd onwards?

It'll be online before July 2. I don't remember any major league trailer only being available on the net AFTER it was in theatres.

So we can expect the trailer to be online any day now? How early do they tend to appear online?

[dinovelvet]

Does anyone have any idea how soon the trailer will appear online from July 2nd onwards?

It'll be online before July 2. I don't remember any major league trailer only being available on the net AFTER it was in theatres.

So we can expect the trailer to be online any day now? How early do they tend to appear online?

Unfortunately I sent my crystal ball in for repair.

Worst case scenario, if it isn't here by the last few days before July 2, it'll probably premiere on Access Hollywood

[Quantumofsolace007]

Does anyone have any idea how soon the trailer will appear online from July 2nd onwards?

It'll be online before July 2. I don't remember any major league trailer only being available on the net AFTER it was in theatres.

So we can expect the trailer to be online any day now? How early do they tend to appear online?

Unfortunately I sent my crystal ball in for repair.

Worst case scenario, if it isn't here by the last few days before July 2, it'll probably premiere on Access Hollywood

tommorow maybe? this week? this month?

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 17 June 2008 - 02:14 AM.

[Mister E]

Hmm. "Octopussy", perhaps the most schizophrenic Bond movie, with its flirtations with "Dr Strangelove" (the Russian war room) and its heavy kisses to Hitchcock (a hero disguised as a clown disarms a nuclear bomb), neverthless goes for a bright, vibrant, sensual look, with everything (costume, set design, photography) vivid and clearly defined; Roger Moore's James Bond looks every inch at home here, in this cinema world of silks and sunsets and impossible glamour. For once, Moore's brown voice and orange skin make him part of the scenery, as nice to look at at the landscape. The direction (what gets shown on screen) had real thought put into it, and desperately over-compensates for a spectacularly messy screenplay. Here, Glen the director is saving the movie, making it as classy, respectful, and attractive as he possibly can. The misjudged moments -- and we all know what they are -- are plagues EON wouldn't ever be cured of, permanently, until Daniel Craig's 007 kicked the out of a man in a bathroom. "Octopussy" looks great. It's a terrible movie saved by a director who clearly believed he could polish a turd.

I Think Octopussy visuals were great but that had nothing to do with John Glen. He shot some fine action sequences but that's all I'll give him. In general, that's all the credit for his tenure as director. He didn't do much to improve the script pacing and un-intetesting villians. Also his shots were pretty weak. Lewis Gilbert would have done a hell of a better job bringing in the visual spleandor. When he shot a scene in a Bond, he made sure the viewer took in the atmosphere.

Compare with "The Living Daylights". Same director, much, much better script, dynamic and fascinating leading actor. Glen knows this movie doesn't need saving -- it needs a cohesive, exciting, imaginative realisation, and it gets it. Look at that utterly sublime Vienna sequence, so obviously intended to be the anti-"Third Man", taking the iconic visuals of that earlier movie (all grubby and bleak and squalid, the personification of Harry Lime), and turning into a chocolate-box romance, full of warmth. And then, in Afghanistan, everything is as expansive and dangerous as the desert landscape. It's really, really good stuff.

THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS was far from a perfect film. You are sierously overestimating the shots in that film, they were some good ones but not enough to leave an impression. Glen was just the guy who pointed the camera and that was it. There was also the unessecarily convoluted plot. The twists and turns ended up being nothing but just some guys doing some bad things and no real concequences at stake. The villians were even worse here, Koskov was a punk, Witaker was just a gun nut, and Necros was just quiet. There were a few saving graces that make the film good but did it need saving ? Yes it certaintly did.

Edited by Mister E, 17 June 2008 - 02:41 AM.

[DaveBond21]

Does anyone have any idea how soon the trailer will appear online from July 2nd onwards?

It'll be online before July 2. I don't remember any major league trailer only being available on the net AFTER it was in theatres.

So we can expect the trailer to be online any day now? How early do they tend to appear online?

Unfortunately I sent my crystal ball in for repair.

Worst case scenario, if it isn't here by the last few days before July 2, it'll probably premiere on Access Hollywood

tommorow maybe? this week? this month?

We could be able to see the trailer in 10 days. That would be great.

[Scamp]

In depth discussions about previous Bond films...I thought I was on a differnrt forum!

Reverse psychology sometimes works with children, sometimes, so here goes.........

I don't think that there is any chance of us seeing the trailer until the 2nd of July at all! (that means we may get it sooner now!)

[blueman]

Awesome! Great work, scamp!

[Zorin Industries]

I'll take Glen over any of the Bond directors that have come along since (save Forster, possibly).

Really? I think Campbell runs circles around Glen.

But directors should not run in circles, which is what Martin Campbell was certainly doing with GOLDENEYE. He proved himself with CASINO ROYALE but even that had a degree of excess that a more intuitive director and editor such as Glen would have shaved off.

[Skudor]

I'll take Glen over any of the Bond directors that have come along since (save Forster, possibly).

Anyway, isn't this thread supposed to be about the Quantum of Solace trailer none of us have seen yet?

I'm nervously hopeful about Forster. I feel like I've been let down before by directors that were meant to be 'quality' (Tamahori, Spottiswoooodeee) rather than 'hired hack' (Campbell et al). Oversimplfied, I know. Still... I'm probably more hopeful than nervous.

[Scamp]

BLOG entry to look forward to today! Who will it be.....?

Wardrobe Dept

Catering

Waste Management

Lighting

Aston DBS Wrangler/driver

Stuntman/woman (has my vote!)

Location scout

Continuity


please feel free to add to the list!

But, as always, those of us in the UK will have to wait until bedtime for it to appear! And it WON'T be the trailer! The anticipation is NOT building! (more reverse psychology I hope!)

[Skudor]

It will be the assistant lightbulb guy. Not the one who handles the bulbs for the actual movie lighting, but the dude who makes sure the pens where they keep the extras are reasonably lit.

[Scamp]

Now come on Skudor...that's just not obscure enough AND is on topic (Whoops, Apprentice attitude creeping in there!)! Now is we try hard we can probably come up with something far more obscure than that!

How about the clapperboard holder's assistant's make up artist's dog's groomer's doq walker's apprentice!

(yes I know that all the info in the blogs is new and is very interesting and is introducing us to "other members of the Bond family" and all that but it is NOT the main event! TOO much small info is getting the better of us I am afraid! )

[Zorin Industries]

Now come on Skudor...that's just not obscure enough AND is on topic (Whoops, Apprentice attitude creeping in there!)! Now is we try hard we can probably come up with something far more obscure than that!

How about the clapperboard holder's assistant's make up artist's dog's groomer's doq walker's apprentice!

(yes I know that all the info in the blogs is new and is very interesting and is introducing us to "other members of the Bond family" and all that but it is NOT the main event! TOO much small info is getting the better of us I am afraid! )

It's probably a smokescreen to divert attention that the teaser trailer has been online since May...

[Scamp]

It is a fiendish plot to divert all male interest AWAY for Euro 2008, the petrol price increases and other daily interests towards computer screens!

Ther is a hidden message in all of this, and the message is........



"YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE TEASER TRAILER ANY EARLIER< HOWEVER HARD YOU TRY AND WHATEVER TACTICS YOU USE..SO THERE!"

Or, for those of us who know what life was like BEFORE computers and the internet (and yes it DID exist, after all it brought us the nice Mr Connery) it smacks of..."IT'S OUR BALL, OUR JUMPERS FOR GOALPOSTS AND WE'VE JUST BEEN CALLED IN FOR TEA...SO WE ARE OFF!"

Just had a thought (not another I hear you moan)... what if.....Sony have seen our list, are checking to twice and are just trying to work out if we are naughty or nice! So...would those of you who have beeen naughty (eating TOO many sweeties etc) please be nice so that we can have the trailer soon!

[YOLT]

Wait for the end of quarter finals. 23 June is the day

[blueman]

I'll take Glen over any of the Bond directors that have come along since (save Forster, possibly).

Really? I think Campbell runs circles around Glen.

But directors should not run in circles, which is what Martin Campbell was certainly doing with GOLDENEYE. He proved himself with CASINO ROYALE but even that had a degree of excess that a more intuitive director and editor such as Glen would have shaved off.

Zorin, you're probably the only person ever to put "intuitive" and "Glen" in the same sentance and have them linked. Kudos.

[Marketto007]

I think will be getting the trailer by the end of this week.

xxx

[Shrublands]

I think will be getting the trailer by the end of this week.

xxx

I do too. I think the 19th (Thursday) seems like a good bet.

[Skudor]

Nah.
The first ten seconds will be released on July 2nd. The rest will be attached at the end of the Quantum of Solace theatrical release.

[Scamp]

How about if ALL of us do something else for an hour and then check back?! Watched kettle and all that!


The blog is..... the man who knows the woman who lives next door to the lady who once bought an ice cream from the man who is now the second assistant to the first assistant "Dolly Grip"!

[Quantumofsolace007]

How about if ALL of us do something else for an hour and then check back?! Watched kettle and all that!


The blog is..... the man who knows the woman who lives next door to the lady who once bought an ice cream from the man who is now the second assistant to the first assistant "Dolly Grip"!

I'll begin reading Never send flowers at least i'm doing something bondian

[deth]

I think will be getting the trailer by the end of this week.

xxx

I do too. I think the 19th (Thursday) seems like a good bet.

holy crap! It's not arriving till JULY. This has been made pretty clear by now methinks...

[Scamp]

I've just started Devil May Care so am also doing something Bondian to pass the time!

[Shrublands]

I think will be getting the trailer by the end of this week.

xxx

I do too. I think the 19th (Thursday) seems like a good bet.

holy crap! It's not arriving till JULY. This has been made pretty clear by now methinks...

Holy crap!
I am quite confident that it will be first seen in cinemas with Hancock.
But, no major trailer is seen for the first time like that! They are always seen on-line at least a couple of weeks before hand. In the case of the QoS trailer, an internet release towards then end of this week would be very likely.