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[Jackanaples]

Guess I'm in the minority: I expect QOS to easily eclipse CR. Better director, same character arc w/Haggis. Plus very similar villain/girls IMO, at least sight-unseen they "feel" that way to me. Wouldn't surprise me for CR to be viewed as the more - even slightly so - laborious of the two. The awesome moments like we had in CR will still be there, just within a tidier and more streamlined storyline. That's my expectation anyway.

CR is the best Bond film since OHMSS (IMO), but doesn't mean it can't be bettered, even if it's just by a smidge. Wait for it, peeps. I got a feeling it'll be worth it.

I am in complete agreement.

[DamnCoffee]

The Trailer has been leaked!!!

EDIT: No it hasn't. Don't do this.

Edited by Jim, 15 June 2008 - 07:36 AM.

[Agent 76]

The Trailer has been leaked!!!

got me!

[DamnCoffee]

LMAO. Sorry I couldn't resist.

[dinovelvet]

LMAO. Sorry I couldn't resist.

You should have written "HI, EON!" over it

[DamnCoffee]

I would if I made it.

[Matt_13]

I've asked about it over at IMDb...

[Leon]

That is awesome, nice to see something about it.

I agree with blueman above also, Casino Royale has some quite laborious moments. Personally I always find myself skipping the Miami sequence along with some of the Venice parts at the end. Ironically those are action pieces which are supposed to be fast and engaging. I find them not so, but long drawn-out and dull with nothing fresh or interesting.

CR has some superb moments but I agree with Sean Connery that it was "half an hour too long and the music was ". The score was decent but the theme song was what I took Connery to be referring to, and everyone I know agrees. Awful drumming, bland bass and uninspiring guitar with a has-been voice that's breaking. A shame because Cornell has done some good stuff in the past.

I suspect this teaser will appear online first, sometime near the end of this month.

[DamnCoffee]

I see what you mean by the score, as much as I love it, I find it easier to sit back and listen to Arnolds previous Bond scores. I think I prefer the Die Another Day and The World Is Not Enough OST's to Casino Royale, I feel that the soundtracks were one of the better points of the Brosnan era.

[deth]

I see what you mean by the score, as much as I love it, I find it easier to sit back and listen to Arnolds previous Bond scores. I think I prefer the Die Another Day and The World Is Not Enough OST's to Casino Royale, I feel that the soundtracks were one of the better points of the Brosnan era.

yay! someone else besides me who like those 2 scores, which are usually trashed in the Bond community.....

that said, I find CR's score to be better than either one of those. Connery must surely have been referring to the title theme (I don't mind it either actually)... and if he wasn't, it doesn't matter, since who's to say that he knows the first thing about classical (based) music anyway....

[Scamp]

Good morning to some......good night to others!

It is Fathers Day here in the UK...as we are told "all men want to be him" etc, perhaps today would be a good day to leak it! It would certainly cheer up what appears to be a rather rainy day in the UK!

[Peckinpah1976]

With regard to CR being "half an hour too long"; personally I don't think the film outstays it's welcome as such (the last 90 mins are nigh on perfect IMO), the problem is that after the Madagascan section it takes far too long to get to the main plot of the film; all the stuff in the Bahamas and Miami are completely superfluous to me and seem only to be there to provide the film with "traditional Bond ingredients" such as exotic locations, a bit of sex and and a further action set-piece. Other than that I think it's a damn good entry in the series; certainly the best since TSWLM and probably since the Sixties.

I agree that on the evidence so far, QOS will probably eclipse it though.

[tdalton]

With regard to CR being "half an hour too long"; personally I don't think the film outstays it's welcome as such (the last 90 mins are nigh on perfect IMO), the problem is that after the Madagascan section it takes far too long to get to the main plot of the film; all the stuff in the Bahamas and Miami are completely superfluous to me and seem only to be there to provide the film with "traditional Bond ingredients" such as exotic locations, a bit of sex and and a further action set-piece.

Completely agreed with you here. I think that if they were to remove a good amount of the film that falls between the title sequence and the introduction of Vesper on the train that the film would be significantly better. Had the time spent in the Bahamas and the Miami sequences been used to further develop the relationship between Bond and Vesper and had also been used to further develop the events that happen in Venice, then the film have been significantly better than it was.

[Captain Tightpants]

But then you'd have people complaining that there wasn't enough action. Some people think all action is bad action, while others like as much as they can get. Let' be honest here: they're never going to make a Bond film that everyone is going to like. It's impossible. The best they can do is make a film that as many people as possible will like.

[Peckinpah1976]

True, but "more action" doesn't necessarily make for a better paced film overall IMO and to my mind the film does takes a serious dip in quality during the sections I mentioned above; early on it seems quite Purvis & Wade, where as once Vesper arrives on screen it seems more Haggis & Fleming. I'm talking general film quality here btw and not just my expectations of what a Bond movie should be. Simply put; don't make a 150min movie if you've only got 120mins worth of decent material.

[DamnCoffee]

It would certainly cheer up what appears to be a rather rainy day in the UK!

What do you mean rainy? It's red hot in this part if the country.

As for the QoS Trailer, its any day now.... lets just hope its now.

[Scamp]

'Twas pouring down when I put digit to keyboard but it has been bootiful all day...but that is NO reason not to have the trailer today!

[agentjamesbond007]

I share your sentiments, Mharkin007. Can't wait that long. Simply can't. Aargh.

Still, we've got a definite date now. There's some, er, solace in that.

It was quite early when we first knew that Bond-22 was Quantum Of Solace back in February.

I look forward to seeing it.

[JackWade]

Looks like we could get the trailer a day earlier than expected:

http://www.slashfilm...ck-on-july-1st/

HANCOCK is now set for release on July 1st.

[DamnCoffee]

Cool! Thanks for this.

[YOLT]

I am sure that we will see the trailer when the quarters are ovwe. And that makes June 23 Just 7 days to go.

[stamper]

Yeah, no one care about smallcock, it's the internet release that sorry count.

[blueman]

Somebody on another board posted that there's a shot of Craig shirtless in the trailer (makes sense from a marketing standpoint, no doubt), also a new version of the Bond theme. FWIW.

[Harmsway]

Guess I'm in the minority: I expect QOS to easily eclipse CR. Better director, same character arc w/Haggis.

Well, we have a better director (but better director does not necessarily equal better direction). And the same character arc? Well, it continues from CASINO ROYALE, but from what I've heard of it, it doesn't seem to be as interesting as what we got in CASINO ROYALE. More of an afterthought (I'd be happy to be proved wrong on that front).

In truth, QUANTUM OF SOLACE does feel like a rather "standard" Bond adventure, with great style and Craig front and center. This is certainly worth anticipating. But the trailer will really have to show me something impressive to make me believe that it will be as distinctive and memorable as CASINO ROYALE was.

[DaveBond21]

Guess I'm in the minority: I expect QOS to easily eclipse CR. Better director, same character arc w/Haggis.

Well, we have a better director (but better director does not necessarily equal better direction). And the same character arc? Well, it continues from CASINO ROYALE, but from what I've heard of it, it doesn't seem to be as interesting as what we got in CASINO ROYALE. More of an afterthought (I'd be happy to be proved wrong on that front).

In truth, QUANTUM OF SOLACE does feel like a rather "standard" Bond adventure, with great style and Craig front and center. This is certainly worth anticipating. But the trailer will really have to show me something impressive to make me believe that it will be as distinctive and memorable as CASINO ROYALE was.

I agree with Harmsway here, but we will have to wait and see. It's a tall order to surpass what we saw in Casino Royale. Also QoS is going to be the middle movie of a trilogy and so it may be a joining-the-plots movie. What I am really looking forward to seeing is Daniel Craig back as Bond and also to see what the team does with a more traditional Bond adventure. With 2 weeks to go before we see the trailer, I can't wait!

By the way, with the photos of scenes in the desert - is anyone else reminded of Moon buggies in DAF and the tanker truck chase in LTK?

[overdevelopedtriggerfinger]

No, but i am reminded of TSWLM after i saw a shot of craig and olga walking through the desert side by side; a nice homage to moore and bach.

[DaveBond21]

No, but i am reminded of TSWLM after i saw a shot of craig and olga walking through the desert side by side; a nice homage to moore and bach.

I was going to add that one to the list, too. You're quite right, it does look a lot like the scene of Bond and Anya in TSWLM, too.

[stamper]

As long as they don't put Lawrence of Arabia parody music in the background during that scene, this will be fine.

[Skudor]

Guess I'm in the minority: I expect QOS to easily eclipse CR. Better director, same character arc w/Haggis.

Well, we have a better director (but better director does not necessarily equal better direction). And the same character arc? Well, it continues from CASINO ROYALE, but from what I've heard of it, it doesn't seem to be as interesting as what we got in CASINO ROYALE. More of an afterthought (I'd be happy to be proved wrong on that front).

In truth, QUANTUM OF SOLACE does feel like a rather "standard" Bond adventure, with great style and Craig front and center. This is certainly worth anticipating. But the trailer will really have to show me something impressive to make me believe that it will be as distinctive and memorable as CASINO ROYALE was.

I agree with Harmsway here, but we will have to wait and see. It's a tall order to surpass what we saw in Casino Royale. Also QoS is going to be the middle movie of a trilogy and so it may be a joining-the-plots movie. What I am really looking forward to seeing is Daniel Craig back as Bond and also to see what the team does with a more traditional Bond adventure. With 2 weeks to go before we see the trailer, I can't wait!

By the way, with the photos of scenes in the desert - is anyone else reminded of Moon buggies in DAF and the tanker truck chase in LTK?

Is it strictly a trilogy though? I thought the next film was more of a blank canvas than that (judging by Wilson's comments about taking a break and all that - not something you do with an unfinished story).

[Zorin Industries]

Guess I'm in the minority: I expect QOS to easily eclipse CR. Better director, same character arc w/Haggis.

Well, we have a better director (but better director does not necessarily equal better direction). And the same character arc? Well, it continues from CASINO ROYALE, but from what I've heard of it, it doesn't seem to be as interesting as what we got in CASINO ROYALE. More of an afterthought (I'd be happy to be proved wrong on that front).

In truth, QUANTUM OF SOLACE does feel like a rather "standard" Bond adventure, with great style and Craig front and center. This is certainly worth anticipating. But the trailer will really have to show me something impressive to make me believe that it will be as distinctive and memorable as CASINO ROYALE was.

I really don't know why so many people out there are assuming anything about this film in terms of pace, narrative and style. That's like guessing how many instruments will be used on each track of an awaited album. None of you have the proverbial faintest and eagerness is beginning to make way for desperation.

None of us have read the screenplay, worked 14 hour days on set for eight months, attended the read-throughs and been there in the editing room. Let's not allow fan impatience and - dare I say it - boredom start clouding what is firstly a TEASER trailer (a soupcon of what is coming later) and, secondly, the final film.

Bond films are 'standard'. That's how they work. I don't use the phrase in any derogatory fashion. CASINO ROYALE was an exception to the rule. It could be a one-off or the start of things to come. Right now, we don't know. But judging QUANTUM OF SOLACE on the length of its potential teaser trailer (which some people are doing) or by how long they have had to wait compared to previous years is frankly ridiculous.

Just be glad we have another Bond film to await. It won't always be so...