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[JimmyBond]

And now the man in the hat himself has spoken:

the story for the new Indiana Jones is in the process of taking form. Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and myself are agreed on what the fifth adventure will concern, and George is actively at work. If the script is good, I'll be very happy to put the costume on again.

http://www.people.co...ss-topheadlines

I'll be there!

No offense, but Ford actually believed the script for Crystal Skull was good enough to sign onto that film.

[Loomis]

Brilliant. It's great too see some Indy 5 News. I'll be there, as well!

I thought you hated CRYSTAL SKULL. Why are you excited by the prospect of another one?

[JimmyBond]

Brilliant. It's great too see some Indy 5 News. I'll be there, as well!

I thought you hated CRYSTAL SKULL. Why are you excited by the prospect of another one?

The same reason I'm excited for another one...becase this one could actually be the great Jones film that Crystal Skull could have (and should have) been.

[Harmsway]

It could be. And I hope it is.

But the cynic inside of me suggests that INDY V won't be. If made, it'll probably be better than KINGDOM. But it probably won't be a true-blue classic, either.

[Loomis]

If made, it'll probably be better than KINGDOM.

How is it probable that it'll be better than KINGDOM? For all we know, it'll be even worse.

[JimmyBond]

If made, it'll probably be better than KINGDOM.

How is it probable that it'll be better than KINGDOM? For all we know, it'll be even worse.

Despite my harsh views towards it, I actually think Kingdom is an ok film. It's just that 'ok' shouldnt be the way I describe an Indiana Jones film. I'd like to believe that Lucas and Spielburg listened to some of the criticism of the film and am applying it to how they lay out this fifth Jones adventure.

[sharpshooter]

No offense, but Ford actually believed the script for Crystal Skull was good enough to sign onto that film.

Oh dear.

I would see a fifth Indy film, but I don't want one made.

[Harmsway]

How is it probable that it'll be better than KINGDOM?

Well, frankly, I think Spielberg will have to try pretty hard to make a film that's worse, and it's honestly fairly easy for him to make a film that's better, if only marginally so.

I also suspect that Spielberg and co. will benefit from having learned "learned some lessons," so to speak. After all, much of KINGDOM was made on the fly, without too much pre-production, and things suffered as a result. If you read interviews, it's pretty clear that the final film isn't something Spielberg and Lucas were enamored with (in fact, the difference between their pre-production comments and their post-production comments are pretty striking).

There's also the matter that KINGDOM was hampered by constant bickering over the core narrative concept. In the end, Spielberg put up with it, but he still didn't like it. This time, it seems that Spielberg is actually fond of the concept--in fact, he came up with it himself--and the other two are on board.

No offense, but Ford actually believed the script for Crystal Skull was good enough to sign onto that film.

It's hard to say what the script looked like when Ford actually committed to the film, since the final product we now have was something that only really settled into its finished form late into pre-production (and even during production, since there were near-daily rewrites).

[JimmyBond]

I suspect if Spielberg's heart is in it this time out, we may end up with a better product.

[The Ghost Who Walks]

No offense, but Ford actually believed the script for Crystal Skull was good enough to sign onto that film.

It's hard to say what the script looked like when Ford actually committed to the film, since the final product we now have was something that only really settled into its finished form late into pre-production (and even during production, since there were near-daily rewrites).

Harrison made over 60 million from Indy 4. I bet that was reason enough to sign up.

Plus, he probably needed the movie, it's not like his career has been going that well after What Lies Beneath, his last great movie (though I'm very fond of Hollywood Homicide and Firewall). Same goes for Arnie with T3 and Sly with Rambo and Rocky Balboa.

I remain optimistic about Indy 5. It would be nice if Spielberg can actually be bothered to make an interesting action scene this time out.

[marktmurphy]

But the cynic inside of me suggests that INDY V won't be.

I wouldn't like to say- I genuinely thought 4 would never happen.

If made, it'll probably be better than KINGDOM. But it probably won't be a true-blue classic, either.

Well I won't be expecting a classic; I'm sure it'll be fun though. For all its faults Skull isn't a terrible, unwatchable film- it's entertaining. And as you say; I think they'll have learned from it and probably want to improve upon it.

[JimmyBond]

Yep, I'll agree with that. Skull is a film that's worth a watch every now and then. I don't think I'll ever look at it as fondly as I do the first three films, but it is a film that I'll never hate.

[The Ghost Who Walks]

For all its faults Skull isn't a terrible, unwatchable film- it's entertaining.

It's not unwatchable, just awfully boring. I never expected to be bored by an Indiana Jones movie.

[DamnCoffee]

Brilliant. It's great too see some Indy 5 News. I'll be there, as well!

I thought you hated CRYSTAL SKULL. Why are you excited by the prospect of another one?

Because I'm an Indiana Jones fan.

You might as well of said the same about Casino Royale, Looms.

"I can't wait for Casino Royale!"
"Well, you hated Die Another Day, why are you excited by the prospect of a new one?"

Just because one movie is sour, doesn't mean the next one will be. I'll be more than happy to see a fifth. It just depends if it's done right. That's the problem.

As of now, Indiana Jones V has my full support. I'll look forward to seeing the finished product. However good or bad it turns out to be. I love the thought of a new one coming out, I had a ball following the production of SKULL, no doubt I will this time.

[sharpshooter]

Because I'm an Indiana Jones fan.

I am an Indiana Jones fan as well. I just don't want the brand dragged through the mud once more. Yes, leaving the series with KOTCS does leave a bad taste. Things may be better for number five. They also may not be. I'd rather just let things be. They had their chance, and they blew it big time.

[bondrules]

I will watch it b/c Indy is my fav character of all time, Raiders being the one film I would take into deserted island if I had to choose.

But after seeing Indy4, my expectations for Indy5 are low.....REALLY LOW.

[Righty007]

I'm a casual Indiana Jones fan and I think they should have stopped on a high note with The Last Crusade.

[bond 16.05.72]

I'm a casual Indiana Jones fan and I think they should have stopped on a high note with The Last Crusade.

Agreed, I know it's down to personal taste but if you think KOTCS was acceptable your taste levels must be paticularly low, it was dire as bad pillaging and raping of the franchise as the SW prequels were of the original trilogy.

Can't say I will parting with my cash for another trudge through this franchise, to think we go to pretty much perfection with Raiders to pure rubbish with Crystal.

I wouldn't agreee that comparing the wait for this with DAD to CR is the same, KOTCS was a sequel to a film made nearly 20 years later, it's clearly not the same at all.

Bond has always been up and down like a yo yo quality wise. We know at some point a gem will come along, Indy is a diffrent case.

[Harmsway]

Bond has always been up and down like a yo yo quality wise. We know at some point a gem will come along, Indy is a diffrent case.

Indy is a different case. Especially since the crew/cast won't be changing. This is the same team.

That said, it's worth mentioning that Indy flicks have always been different from their immediate predecessor by some degree, as a kind of reaction. That's not a guarantee that INDY IV won't be more of the same in some aspects, but it's likely it won't be an exact facsimile, especially since Lucas and Spielberg don't seem overly elated with how KINGDOM turned out.

If INDY V sucks, it sucks. But if it doesn't, well, folks will be glad they toook another shot. As an Indy fan, I think the risk of failure--no matter how great it may be--is worth the potential benefits.

[Loomis]

I'm a casual Indiana Jones fan and I think they should have stopped on a high note with The Last Crusade.

THE LAST CRUSADE was a high note? I guess it was, at least compared to CRYSTAL SKULL. However, I myself wish they'd called it a day with TEMPLE OF DOOM.

There's nothing wrong with the stories of LAST CRUSADE or CRYSTAL SKULL. Connery as Indy's dad? Terrific. (Albeit that Connery ended up completely wasted in the role.) Aliens? Wonderful, I love aliens. (Albeit that the film, weirdly enough, ended up chickening out of the concept.)

No, what's missing in both CRUSADE and CRYSTAL is any hint of directorial flair from Spielberg. These two films showcase some of his flattest and most uninspired filmmaking. On both projects, he's essentially John Glen.

He did a halfhearted job on Indy in 1989 and in 2008. He hasn't given it some welly with the character since 1984. If INDY 5 were going ahead without Spielberg in the director's chair, I'd be somewhat interested, even if the dreaded Lucas were his replacement. The problem is, though, Spielberg seems to think that all he needs to do in order to make a good Indy pic is just show up. Or maybe he sees it as a kind of paid vacation. Either way, he's managed to (as I see it, anyway) pretty much singlehandedly kill what could and should have been two of the most thrilling action/adventure movies of all time.

[bondrules]

Spielberg hasn't done a decent job since SPR. I would like to believe that he played a big role with the cinematography in that film. It was pure genius. Since then, nothing remarkable. Too bad.

As for Lucas, yeah, he created the characters of Indiana Jones and The SW Universe. I'll always be grateful for that. BUT, he should have been out of the game eons ago. Lucas's only purpose in life right now is to continuously rape everything Godly that came out of his head 30 years ago.

[Harmsway]

Spielberg hasn't done a decent job since SPR.

I disagree. Spielberg did ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE and MUNICH, both of which are far superior to SAVING PRIVATE RYAN.

[bondrules]

Spielberg hasn't done a decent job since SPR.

I disagree. Spielberg did ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE and MUNICH, both of which are far superior to SAVING PRIVATE RYAN.

Munich is the best he's done since SPR, but AI was for me horrible to watch. Just like MR & WOTW. It's hard for me to swallow the fact that the same man that gave us Jaws, ET, and Raiders, was responsible for such atrocities.

[marktmurphy]

I'm a casual Indiana Jones fan and I think they should have stopped on a high note with The Last Crusade.

Agreed, I know it's down to personal taste but if you think KOTCS was acceptable your taste levels must be paticularly low, it was dire as bad pillaging and raping of the franchise as the SW prequels were of the original trilogy.

Perhaps yours are ridiculously high?
It's just a family adventure movie, for heaven's sake- that's not a subject for a debate where words as powerful as 'rape' have much of a place, if you ask me. I really don't like hyperbole.

[marktmurphy]

So, if Spielberg's taking a bit more of a front seat on this one (might be true if he's more onboard with the macguffin) perhaps he'll be bringing his own guys onboard again to help with the script? I'm hoping that he was pleased enough with the Tintin script to get Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish onboard- that would be amazing

No hope of Steven Moffat, sadly

[Tybre]

No hope of Steven Moffat, sadly

Indeed. Everything I've seen that he's written has been nothing shy of golden. I'm sure he could turn in a very good Indy, at the very least on the level of Temple of Doom.

[DamnCoffee]

I found this on Youtube.

It's fairly entertaning.





So true, as well.

[Safari Suit]

I take it you've never seen Chalk?

It was an easy target at the time, but it really wasn't very good.

I think Coupling was a bit ordinary too. Funny at times, generally very watchable, but never anything special.

[Tybre]

I take it you've never seen Chalk?

It was an easy target at the time, but it really wasn't very good.

I think Coupling was a bit ordinary too. Funny at times, generally very watchable, but never anything special.

What little of Coupling I saw over the summer amused me. Not the best sitcom ever, but considerably funny. But mind you it was airing on PBS at 1-2 am, ergo I was half-asleep when it was on, and it becomes considerably easier to amuse me when I'm on the verge of collapsing, so I can't accurately judge. Curse of the Fatal Death I don't find as amusing as I used to, but it's still a well-written parody. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, The Girl in the Fireplace, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, Blink, and Time Crash have been amongst my favorites of the new Doctor Who. I've seen snippets of Jekyll, all of which were rather good. The man's not a genius by any measure, and especially in the case of Doctor Who he seems to have run out of steam by the ending, but I do think he's a very good writer, and certainly capable of turning in brilliant work.

[Loomis]

I found this on Youtube.

It's fairly entertaning.





So true, as well.

This guy knows the score.

And I love the way he suddenly belches loudly at 04:56 and then just carries on talking as though nothing's happened. What a dude.