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[Mr Teddy Bear]

lHard to tell, but looks like the best trailer yet. I get the feeling this last month is going to be the hardest.

[marktmurphy]

Thought I'd share this with you folks. A better quality version should be out via the widget soon, but until then here's a boothleg of the second TV spot. Enjoy!

Excellent- thanks for that; lots of nice new bits.

[Harmsway]

Thought I'd share this with you folks. A better quality version should be out via the widget soon, but until then here's a boothleg of the second TV spot. Enjoy!

Excellent- thanks for that; lots of nice new bits.

Much better than the original trailer.

[Matt_13]

Excellent tv spot, can't wait for the new trailer!

[Royal Dalton]

Much better than the original trailer.

Too right. This should have been the original trailer.

Thanks for posting it, ASO.

[Qwerty]

Great find, Agent Spriggan Ominae. Thanks for posting.

[Harmsway]

Here's that new TV spot that ASO posted, but in good quality. Definitely the best advertisement so far:

IJ & TKOTC TV Spot 2

[zencat]

Had a mini Indy marathon today with a friend. We watched Last Crusade and Temple of Doom back to back (in that order for some reason). It's been a while since I watched these, and I was surprised how much I enjoyed Temple of Doom. That was always my least fav Indy flick. Now I'm not too sure. And while I never thought much of Willie Scot/Kate Capshaw when I saw the movie when I was 20 (in fact, she annoyed me), I now find her and their whole relationship very hot. I also think it's much better directed than Last Crusade. But Raiders will always be my favorite. It's a real stand alone Movie.

[marktmurphy]

Yeah- I heard Tarantino describing Temple as Spielberg's best directed film recently. Looking forward to seeing it again, but I'll wait until the cinemas can show them- apparently they're not allowed to put them on until after Kingdom has come out.

[Loomis]

Yeah- I heard Tarantino describing Temple as Spielberg's best directed film recently.

When did he say that? Was it in an interview, and if so do you have a link?

Looking forward to seeing it again, but I'll wait until the cinemas can show them- apparently they're not allowed to put them on until after Kingdom has come out.

Are you saying that the other Indy Joneses are going to be re-released on the big screen?

[marktmurphy]

Yeah- I heard Tarantino describing Temple as Spielberg's best directed film recently.

When did he say that? Was it in an interview, and if so do you have a link?

Well it wasn't actually publicly! Not sure if you remember Adam & Joe, a comedy pair on Channel 4, but they have a radio show on BBC 6music. Joe is in the process of getting a movie made in Hollywood and knows some guys who know Tarantino. He was saying that he was invited over to Tarantino's house where Quentin was putting on a screening Temple of Doom in his little cinema/screening room thing just for fun. Apparently he did a little introduction to it and said that he thinks it's Spielberg's best directed film. It was only a few weeks ago- I think maybe just after the Kingdom trailer was released.

Looking forward to seeing it again, but I'll wait until the cinemas can show them- apparently they're not allowed to put them on until after Kingdom has come out.

Are you saying that the other Indy Joneses are going to be re-released on the big screen?

Not officially, no. I just do a film quiz in a cinema bar in South London and when there was a Harrison Ford quiz a couple of weeks back (we won, naturally! ) they guy in charge said that he'd wanted to screen the old Indys as a prelude to the new one but hadn't been allowed by the film company. He did say that he intended to put them on after, so I'll wait for that! But not an proper rerelease or anything, no.

[Loomis]

Ah, gotcha. Cheers, MTM.

[HildebrandRarity]

So now everyone will say that QT feels ToD is SS's best directed movie*!

LOL

Of course, Q will deny ever having told someone he'll feel he's never met in his life or say:

"don't in' know him from a hole in the ground."


*If anyone actually cares. (I don't but obvously there are enough Q fans around here who *might* care...though I don't know why 'cause he's an over-rated has-been who, as the definition would suggest, hasn't made a good movie in ages.)

[Harmsway]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again... TEMPLE OF DOOM gets more a bum rap than it deserves. It's certainly no four-star classic, like RAIDERS, but it falls neatly into the three-star entertainment category.

*If anyone actually cares. (I don't but obvously there are enough Q fans around here who *might* care...though I don't know why 'cause he's an over-rated has-been who, as the definition would suggest, hasn't made a good movie in ages.)

I do think Taratino is somewhat old hat now and needs to reinvent himself, but I really love KILL BILL.

[HildebrandRarity]

*If anyone actually cares. (I don't but obvously there are enough Q fans around here who *might* care...though I don't know why 'cause he's an over-rated has-been who, as the definition would suggest, hasn't made a good movie in ages.)

I do think Taratino is somewhat old hat now and needs to reinvent himself, but I really love KILL BILL.

He's made one good movie in fourteen* years. That's a horrible hit ratio. In sports and business there's a saying:

"What have you done for me lately?"

When it comes to this bloated guy, the answer is a plain and simple "nothing".



* Edited from "fifteen" by me upon noting my error that Pulp Fiction was done for 1994 as opposed to for 1993.

[Harmsway]

He's made one good movie in fifteen years.

I count two: JACKIE BROWN and KILL BILL.

[DamnCoffee]

I'm loving the new TV Spot! Indy 4 sure does look fantastic.

[HildebrandRarity]

He's made one good movie in fifteen years.

I count two: JACKIE BROWN and KILL BILL.

Er...whatever. We're all entitled to our opinions and I, for one, have not even seen the first of these.

In my opinion, the only thing he's done in the past few years is whine and complain and act like a baby when it came to Casino Royale. You do recall his rants and raves and dissing comments with respect to Casino Royale, don't you?

[Loomis]

He's made one good movie in fifteen years.

I count two: JACKIE BROWN and KILL BILL.

Not PULP FICTION? One of the best things ever made, if you ask me.

I think all of Tarantino's films are good, although, in truth, DEATH PROOF isn't anything amazing - still (just about) worth watching, though.

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Rarity!

He's made one good movie in fifteen years.

I count two: JACKIE BROWN and KILL BILL.

Er...whatever. We're all entitled to our opinions and I, for one, have not even seen the first of these.

Perhaps you should, then.

You do recall his rants and raves and dissing comments with respect to Casino Royale, don't you?

Please tell me what they have to do with Tarantino's abilities as a filmmaker.

[sharpshooter]

Not PULP FICTION? One of the best things ever made, if you ask me.

Yep, that film is one of my all time favourites. If Tarantino did Casino, I don't think he would have dished up a 'Royale with cheese.'

[HildebrandRarity]

He's made one good movie in fifteen years.

I count two: JACKIE BROWN and KILL BILL.

Not PULP FICTION?

...

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Rarity!

You do recall his rants and raves and dissing comments with respect to Casino Royale, don't you?

Please tell me what they have to do with Tarantino's abilities as a filmmaker.

I forgot it came out in 1994. Somehow I thought it was 1993. So i'll go edit my post to read:

He's made one good movie in fourteen years.



As for his abilities as a film-maker? Well, to proceed with some level of logic and even generosity, his inability to churn out more than one good movie in about fourteen years speaks volumes about his abilities as one.

As I said, the only thing he's done of note in recent years is whin(g)e and cry about how he gave Eon the idea of making Casino Royale and how dare they not give him credit for the idea.

He's a useless and everyone knows it. Unfortunately he's fooled a certain subset of the arthouse crowd for, let's see, about fourteen years and they continue to live off the whisps of something he did back in the early 1990s. Some of us have actually moved on since then, my dear Loomis.

But this thread's "For Grandpa Indy" and apologies to all for soiling it by taking the marktmurphy/Loomis post and extrapolating it off into a QuTi tangent.

[Harmsway]

Er...whatever. We're all entitled to our opinions and I, for one, have not even seen the first of these.

Perhaps we best not judge without having seen what we're discussing.

I count two: JACKIE BROWN and KILL BILL.

Not PULP FICTION? One of the best things ever made, if you ask me.

I grown increasingly antagonistic towards PULP FICTION. One of the most overrated films I've ever come across, though it's not as irksome as, say, AMERICAN BEAUTY or something like that. PULP FICTION does have genuinely lovely moments, but on the whole, is as hollow and insignificant as any film I've ever seen.

As for his abilities as a film-maker? Well, to proceed with some level of logic and even generosity, his inability to churn out more than one good movie in about fourteen years speaks volumes about his abilities as one.

You haven't even seen all of his films from the past fourteen years, so I question the validity of your judgment. Furthermore, his refusal doesn't pump out films in quantity has little to say as to his quality as a filmmaker. Some of the best filmmakers of all time took ages before producing a single film.

[HildebrandRarity]

Ok. Out of the mighty three films he's made in the past fourteen years, I haven't seen Jackie Brown. Since I don't think Pulp Fiction is as great as everyone else and actually think the last one was a waste of money, would you like to give me the money* to rent Jackie Brown?

Perhaps we should have a different thread for discussing this? I wouldn't want to lower the level of this thread by bringing the most over-rated director over the past fourteen years into it.



* I have enough of it but don't want any of it going into the pocket of the individual described in the second paragraph above.

[Loomis]

I grown increasingly antagonistic towards PULP FICTION. One of the most overrated films I've ever come across, though it's not as irksome as, say, AMERICAN BEAUTY or something like that. PULP FICTION does have genuinely lovely moments, but on the whole, is as hollow and insignificant as any film I've ever seen.

Once more we must disagree. PULP FICTION knocked me for six. Took me years to get over it, and to be honest I don't think I ever really did or ever will. A mindblowingly awesome film, and more than that a genuine phenomenon.

For the record, I also liked AMERICAN BEAUTY, although it's nowhere near PULP FICTION in quality. Only saw it once, though. PULP FICTION I must have seen a good four or five times, but I haven't watched it for about five years. Time to give it another spin, I think.

[Harmsway]

PULP FICTION knocked me for six. Took me years to get over it, and to be honest I don't think I ever really did or ever will. A mindblowingly awesome film, and more than that a genuine phenomenon.

Well, perhaps you can articulate to me why it's so great... I've yet to hear a really convincing argument beyond, "It's got good style!" Well, style's wonderful and all, but style divorced from substance is just style.

For the record, I also liked AMERICAN BEAUTY, although it's nowhere near PULP FICTION in quality.

I found it immensely pretentious, and its portrayal of American suburbia downright condescending.

[marktmurphy]

PULP FICTION knocked me for six. Took me years to get over it, and to be honest I don't think I ever really did or ever will. A mindblowingly awesome film, and more than that a genuine phenomenon.

Well, perhaps you can articulate to me why it's so great... I've yet to hear a really convincing argument beyond, "It's got good style!" Well, style's wonderful and all, but style divorced from substance is just style.

True, but if someone does something well, you can't deny that it was done well. I see no reason to think that he was aiming to 'do' substance, so he didn't fail on anything in that film for me.

And don't forget that we're on a board celebrating James Bond movies- to criticise a movie for lacking in substance and being only style here of all places does seem an odd comment!

[Harmsway]

Anyway, to get this topic back on-track, here's oodles of spoiler information about the story and characters of INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL (derived from recently published INDY IV materials):

[spoiler]-The film picks off in 1957 at the mysterious Hangar 51. The Soviets, led by Irina Spalko (Cate Blanchett) have kidnapped Dr. Jones and his buddy Mac to help them find an artifact of incredible psychic powers (pretty obviously one of the many crystal skulls). Dr. Jones and Mac escape, but Jones soon after finds himself in a nuclear testing ground in the middle of the desert and only barely survives.

-After returning to Marshall College, his close friend, Dean Stanforth (Jim Broadbent) explains that Indy

[Loomis]

PULP FICTION knocked me for six. Took me years to get over it, and to be honest I don't think I ever really did or ever will. A mindblowingly awesome film, and more than that a genuine phenomenon.

Well, perhaps you can articulate to me why it's so great... I've yet to hear a really convincing argument beyond, "It's got good style!" Well, style's wonderful and all, but style divorced from substance is just style.

Actually, I think there's plenty of substance to PULP FICTION, particularly in the tragic character of Vincent Vega. Also, it's one of the most entertaining and edge-of-seat films ever made, and I drew that conclusion when I sat in my cinema seat in 1994 breathless with excitement about where it was going to go next, and I also knew that I'd never seen any film like it, anything that was so fresh, funny, sophisticated and vibrant, so, yeah, I'd say that there's a lot more than just "good style" going on.

I found it immensely pretentious, and its portrayal of American suburbia downright condescending.

Maybe. Hey, I never said it was a great film like, say, Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN ( ), but I did enjoy it. Sue me.

Besides, how can you dislike a flick in which the lead character says he wants to get home to catch the James Bond marathon?

[Tarl_Cabot]

[quote name='Harmsway' post='865384' date='28 April 2008 - 15:15']Anyway, to get this topic back on-track, here's oodles of spoiler information about the story and characters of INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL (derived from recently published INDY IV materials):

[marktmurphy]

Yeah, I read about the first five words and that was enough for me! I'm going to try and keep as spoiler free as I can!