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'Quantum of Solace' Siena/Lake Garda Chase Details


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#181 Skudor

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 12:21 PM

That's a pretty cool looking car. Doesn't seem fair to pitch an old relic like this against a brand new Aston Martin though. Shouldn't really make for much of a chase.

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 05:03 PM

Just found this photo of the marble quarries at Carrara in the Apuan Alps. :(

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Looks like an incredible location for a car chase.

"Ooooh" pretty much sums it up for me.

Looks fantastic. :tup:

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. :tup:

QUANTUM OF SOLACE has got a pretty phenomenal selection of locations. With Forster's visual sensibilities and Gassner's production design, this film is going to be gorgeous.


Visually, QOS sounds like one of the, if not the best films in the Bond series. What a beautiful photo! Amazing location for a car chase.

#183 Skudor

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 09:12 PM

Just found this photo of the marble quarries at Carrara in the Apuan Alps. :)

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Looks like an incredible location for a car chase.



WOW! :tup: :tup: :(

If used right that will be a spectacular location. I do hope they don't just use it as a backdrop - such as in the TWINE ski chase - the action itself needs to be awesome.

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 10:43 PM

I do hope they don't just use it as a backdrop - such as in the TWINE ski chase - the action itself needs to be awesome.

I don't think we need worry about that. From what we can tell, this car chase is going to be intense.

#185 MkB

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 10:57 PM

In some articles, it is said a SUV will be involved in the chase too. So it'll be:

Aston Martin
vs.
Ford GT40 + SUV + Italian police cars (Alfa Romeo 159 presumably) + etc.

Wow! :tup: Kind of a relay race chase!

#186 YOLT

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:35 PM

When I look at the map I can see that the Apuan Alps are between Lake Como (end of CR) and Lake Garda, at about 50 km. However the distance between Lake Garda and Siena is about 150 km. So my quess is:

Title Sequence: Car chase between the two lakes

After PTS: Chase in Siena

Am I right :tup:

#187 MkB

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:39 PM

There's undoubtedly a distance issue (this was a problem raised at some point). Even at breakneck speed, it would take hours to drive from the first location to the other in real life. I guess there can be some kind of artistic ellipsis (if you forgive my wording :tup:): the average moviegoer is not supposed to know the locations and their position that well.

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:52 PM

There's undoubtedly a distance issue (this was a problem raised at some point). Even at breakneck speed, it would take hours to drive from the first location to the other in real life. I guess there can be some kind of artistic ellipsis (if you forgive my wording :tup:): the average moviegoer is not supposed to know the locations and their position that well.


I see. I think that the Siena sequences may begin after the PTS. The PTS may end with a road table stating Siena-50 km or so.

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 12:03 AM

There's undoubtedly a distance issue (this was a problem raised at some point). Even at breakneck speed, it would take hours to drive from the first location to the other in real life. I guess there can be some kind of artistic ellipsis (if you forgive my wording :tup:): the average moviegoer is not supposed to know the locations and their position that well.

I'm pretty sure that's how it will play out: if the producers can ignore the fact that the actor playing James Bond changes every few films, I'm sure they can ignore the geography of northern Italy. Even though Lake Como (and the villa) is far to the north, it's never really established where it is. In terms of the film's continuity, it's probably somewhere outside Siena.

#190 Skudor

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 12:05 AM

I wouldn't get to worried about distances. These places won't be identified in the movie and they'll take plenty of artistic licence with relative locations. The ice cliffs that Bond flew off, and went surfing by, in DAD do not exist anywhere in Iceland, for example.

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 02:01 AM

Given that they were completey CGI, it's fairly safe to say they don't exist anywhere.

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 03:06 AM

Let's not talk of that sequence...

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 03:40 AM

Naughty Captain Tightpants! Naughty!

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 11:37 PM

Here's a short online video about the preparation of the QoS set in Siena. Sorry, I've currently no sound on my laptop, I've no idea what is said (or if something is said):
http://www.intoscana...183#contentBody

Also, an article about the casting for local extras (in Italian):
http://www.7magazine...new.asp?id=1837

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 12:16 AM

Tere is sound, but it's in rapid Italian, which I don't speak. Given the images shown, I'd say it has something to do with how several buildings are being modified and that areas of the town have been closed down for filming.

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 04:13 PM

OK, I finally listened to the clip on another computer: nothing tremendous in the audio comments, they just say the Via del Rialto is closed because the QoS team is working to build the set, and the next Bond film will be filmed partly in Siena, and there's already been some filming during the last Palio, blah blah blah :tup:

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 10:42 PM

007 set to dazzle Lake Garda
Second shoot in new Bond franchise ready to roll
(ANSA) - Milan, April 1 - James Bond is set to take Lake Garda by storm in coming weeks, with filming on the latest 007 flick and celebrations marking 100 years since the birth of the legendary spy's creator, Ian Fleming. Brooding British actor Daniel Craig, in his second outing as the fictional MI6 agent, will shoot several action scenes around the lake for the 22nd Bond movie, Quantum of Solace. The most spectacular sequence of all will see Bond's classic Aston Martin tearing away from the scene of a collision at breakneck speed, leaving behind a car and a truck. The truck then explodes into flames and ends up in the lake - although in real life a specially designed net will catch the vehicle before it hits the water. The Bond crew, currently in Tuscany filming another Italian section of the movie, will start working on the shores of Lake Garda on April 14.

The 11 days of shooting at the lakeside will coincide with a series of events celebrating the life and work of Fleming (1908-1964), who used his own experiences in the British naval intelligence service as the background for his spy novels. A travelling exhibition arrives in Garda on April 10, featuring a wealth of material about the author's life and his most famous creation. Posters, first edition books, photographs and memorabilia have been pieced together for the show.

After publishing his first Bond novel, Casino Royale, in 1953, Fleming wrote another 11 books and two collections of short stories featuring the MI6 agent. Some 15 years after his death, publishers began commissioning a series of continuation novels, dozens of which are now in print. Most of these were written by John Gardner, between 1981 and 1996, and Raymond Benson. Benson, who wrote six Bond novels and four short stories between 1997 and 2002, will travel from Texas to attend the Garda celebrations and discuss his vision of the smooth-talking superspy.

''Benson restored the original spirit of Bond,'' commented the Italian translator of James Bond novels, Andrea Carlo Cappi.

''From a handsome, indestructible figure he is once again the 007 envisioned by Fleming, a hero that also encounters defeat''.

Another eagerly awaited moment during the celebrations will be a talk by the stunt designer and second unit director of Quantum of Solace, Dan Bradley.

Bradley, who won widespread acclaim for his work on the Jason Bourne movie trilogy, is scheduled to share behind-the-scenes snippets and discuss the Garda set during an April 20 meeting. This is the Bond crew's second stint in Italy for Quantum of Solace. Craig and the team paid a brief visit to the Tuscan town of Siena last August to film sections of the hectic bareback Palio race. Although the details of the storyline are being kept under tight wraps, the Palio is expected to serve as a backdrop to a scene in which Bond pursues the villain, played by French actor Mathieu Amalric, across Siena's rooftops by foot.

This is reportedly part of a longer chase sequence, which sees Craig racing through Siena's narrow, cobbled streets before later descending into an underground network of tunnels, known as ''bottini''.

Italy is one of several glamorous locations to feature in Quantum of Solace, which is scheduled for release at the start of November.

Although the movie takes its name from one of Fleming's short stories, it features an original storyline.

The plot picks up an hour after the end of the last instalment, Casino Royale (2006), and sees Bond searching for answers after the woman he loved betrayed him.

http://www.ansa.it/s..._101161056.html

Also this tidbit already posted by someone as a quicknews:

JAMES BOND: AWESOME WEAPONS OF WAR ARRIVE IN ITALY
(AGI) - Rome, 1 April - They are realistic enough to inspire fear. And they arrived, under escort, in Italy this afternoon, at Fiumicino Airport. They are the weapons that James Bond, who is in Italy for the shooting of some of the scenes. The weapons, arrived directly from England, and which the producer assures are perfect reproductions of originals for use on set, came under the close scrutiny of the State Technical Police Squad, who confirmed their innocuous nature. The weapons will be used during action scenes in the new 007 film to be shot during April in the provinces of Siena and Massa Carrara and on Lake Garda.

http://www.agi.it/pe...en0066-art.html

We leanr some more here (in Italian):
http://www.adnkronos...=1.0.2029069552
The weapons are said to be Eckler Kock caliber 4.6, caliber 5.56 riffles, caliber 9 pistols, Winchester caliber 12, with magazines and bullets. I'm not weapon-wise, so maybe I haven't translated the caliber things the way it should?

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 10:47 PM

Thanks MkB, very interesting stuff, particularly the news that the exploding truck is going to end up in Lake Garda itself.

Before someone else points this out, as we know, the pursuit across the rooftops of Siena is almost certainly not between Bond and Dominic Greene.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 04:47 AM



'Quantum' chase sequence with Aston Martin, memorabilia show with Dan Bradley...


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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:08 AM

Sounds excellent. They mention 007's 'classic Aston Martin'. Any chance that the DB5 re-appears? Probably not, but it would be nice.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:20 AM

Sounds excellent. They mention 007's 'classic Aston Martin'. Any chance that the DB5 re-appears? Probably not, but it would be nice.

Interesting, that's what I also wondered when I read that line! Very doubtful, and I think it's already been confirmed that this chase involves the DBS. Perhaps we may see a glimpse of the DB5 later in the movie though.

#202 Skudor

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:32 AM

According to this text published on a local website (about Tremosine, a location next to Lake Garda), the chase there will involved Bond's Aston Martin and a Ford GT40.
http://www.malcesine...ond/default.asp

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According to Wikipedia, it's a quite ancient car that was produced from 1965 to 1968. Maybe they meant the contemporary Ford GT?


A mate of mine suggested it might be the new GT40. He's a real car buff and also said that either of the GT40s should leave the DBS trailing behind - yes even the ancient one.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:48 AM

According to this text published on a local website (about Tremosine, a location next to Lake Garda), the chase there will involved Bond's Aston Martin and a Ford GT40.
http://www.malcesine...ond/default.asp

:tup:

According to Wikipedia, it's a quite ancient car that was produced from 1965 to 1968. Maybe they meant the contemporary Ford GT?


A mate of mine suggested it might be the new GT40. He's a real car buff and also said that either of the GT40s should leave the DBS trailing behind - yes even the ancient one.

The way I'd like to see the PTS play out is to have Elvis and Mr. Slate as enforcers for the Organisation who have come to kill White (they're also after Mathis, currently under interrogation in Siena, but White is the easier target for the moment; Bond works ths out mid-chase). I'd put Slate - or Elvis, but preferably Slate - in the GT40 just to show that he's not a very subtle man and likes fast cars. I'd prefer it to be Slate because he dies first, knd of showing that he's openly a member of the Organsiation and his lack of subversivenes is what ges him killed.

And to play that trait up a little bit, I'd order a GT40 the colour and texture of raw carbon fibre to show it's a racing car for the road.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 10:50 AM

I'd put Slate - or Elvis, but preferably Slate - in the GT40 just to show that he's not a very subtle man and likes fast cars.


For that very same reason, I see it the other way round; Elvis with that haircut and all that gaudy, gold jewellery in the unsubtle GT40.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 05:11 PM

According to this text published on a local website (about Tremosine, a location next to Lake Garda), the chase there will involved Bond's Aston Martin and a Ford GT40.
http://www.malcesine...ond/default.asp

:tup:

According to Wikipedia, it's a quite ancient car that was produced from 1965 to 1968. Maybe they meant the contemporary Ford GT?


A mate of mine suggested it might be the new GT40. He's a real car buff and also said that either of the GT40s should leave the DBS trailing behind - yes even the ancient one.


Second unit director Dan Bradley also mentioned the GT40 back in September of last year as well.

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 10:19 AM

Long and apparently interesting article today in Il Tirreno (with photos of the locations and even a map) about the sequence to be filmed in Carrara.
http://www.mediateca...4Aprile2008.pdf
(p. 14-16 of the PDF)

Unfortunately, I'm in a terrible hurry today (I don't even have enough time to read the article), so forgive me for delaying the translation (I'll have more time on Sunday, but if someone else can translate it, feel free :tup:)

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 10:51 AM

This is from page 15 of the above PDF. I'll try and translate some of the rest later when I have more time:

The locations where they will shoot the movie

Breathtaking chases, explosions and clashes on bends that wind between quarries

Canalgrande: where a police car crashes into an old house
Fantiscritti: the pursuers shoot at Bond
Passo del Vestito: Bond fleeing through a tunnel
Altagnana: where the police cars come from


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Posted 05 April 2008 - 06:21 PM

On James Bond Web Italia, one can see five pics from QoS!!!! I'm pretty sure the first two ones are supposed to be set in a bottino, in Siena.
Good reconstitution, except there's no such thing as electric lighting in a 13th century tunnel... Visitors are told to bring their own flashlight. But oh, well... :tup:

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 12:31 PM

Things are getting serious in Siena! After the rehearsals, the official filming has begun :tup:
According to the local press, Daniel Craig has arrived on set, and Mark Forster will be there in the next days. He arrived in town at night with two bodyguards during the weekend, and he visited the location / set.
http://www.mediateca...7Aprile2008.pdf
(p. 12 of the PDF, essentially)

Let's hope some nice pictures and / or videos will leak in the next days :tup:

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 01:09 PM

I'am now convinced that the Art gallery is not in the PTS.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the suits that Bond wear are different.

Looking at the pictures. Bond with the Walther PPK. He his wearing a pale blue shirt with dark navy blue jacket with white pin stripes down it. Could this be the same suit he wore at the end of CR?. Bond his also wearing this suit in the picture of him running down the tunnel.

Looking at the B-roll footage. The suit that Bond wears in the art gallery is black with a white shirt. This indicates that these are both different scenes.

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