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[Harry Fawkes]

Fleming was not gay!

[Ry]

During the court case on Thunderball evidence was presented to the judge that he (the judge) was completely taken aback about. This evidence was never revealed to the public, but there were implications that the letters submitted had gay subtexts to them such as "love and kisses" as a response. Who knows if there is any validation to these letters as they have never been publicly revealed. The information can be found in Robert Seller's book: Battle for Bond. To throw in my two cents I would asy Fleming was not gay at all. As others have posted he may have dabbled at some point, but that does not make someone gay. He was however interested in the subject it seems from the books.

[onthetracksof007]

Sellers remark about the letter certainly hints at it..

[Harry Fawkes]

Then the question should be: was Fleming bisexual then? I still say no and even if he was what's the point?

[Licence_007]

So signing letters off with love and kisses = homosexuality or even hints at it? For all we know it could've been an in-joke between Fleming and his correspondant or strictly tongue-in-cheek.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Are you mad? He's not gay. If he was gay, 007 would be a gay secret agent.

[Major Tallon]

I think it's just affectation, like Horace Rumpole calling everybody "Old Darling." Doesn't mean a thing.

[Ambler]

I thought I'd give this thread a bump as it is not only interesting and often amusing, but would not be allowed to exist on MI6 where over-zealous and misguided moderation to protect 'the kids' results in any controversial thread being locked.

But to come back to the 'topic in hand': many posters seem to be coming at the question with the idea that sexuality is something fixed, or permanent. I realise that's the fashionable 'sexuality is genetic' angle, but I'm not 100% convinced.

[Zorin Industries]

I thought I'd give this thread a bump as it is not only interesting and often amusing, but would not be allowed to exist on MI6 where over-zealous and misguided moderation to protect 'the kids' results in any controversial thread being locked.

But to come back to the 'topic in hand': many posters seem to be coming at the question with the idea that sexuality is something fixed, or permanent. I realise that's the fashionable 'sexuality is genetic' angle, but I'm not 100% convinced.

So you are straight because you chose to be?

[Ambler]

many posters seem to be coming at the question with the idea that sexuality is something fixed, or permanent. I realise that's the fashionable 'sexuality is genetic' angle, but I'm not 100% convinced.

So you are straight because you chose to be?

Hmmm. I'm saying I'm heterosexual until proved otherwise.

[Scrambled Eggs]

I thought I'd give this thread a bump as it is not only interesting and often amusing, but would not be allowed to exist on MI6 where over-zealous and misguided moderation to protect 'the kids' results in any controversial thread being locked.

But to come back to the 'topic in hand': many posters seem to be coming at the question with the idea that sexuality is something fixed, or permanent. I realise that's the fashionable 'sexuality is genetic' angle, but I'm not 100% convinced.

So you are straight because you chose to be?

I know I chose to be. I did it because I'm attracted to girls and not to boys. Come to think of it, it was quite an easy decision really.

[Zorin Industries]

I thought I'd give this thread a bump as it is not only interesting and often amusing, but would not be allowed to exist on MI6 where over-zealous and misguided moderation to protect 'the kids' results in any controversial thread being locked.

But to come back to the 'topic in hand': many posters seem to be coming at the question with the idea that sexuality is something fixed, or permanent. I realise that's the fashionable 'sexuality is genetic' angle, but I'm not 100% convinced.

So you are straight because you chose to be?

I know I chose to be. I did it because I'm attracted to girls and not to boys. Come to think of it, it was quite an easy decision really.

So we're going down the "choice" avenue are we?

If anyone thinks it is a choice, then God help the rest of us.

[Scrambled Eggs]

I thought I'd give this thread a bump as it is not only interesting and often amusing, but would not be allowed to exist on MI6 where over-zealous and misguided moderation to protect 'the kids' results in any controversial thread being locked.

But to come back to the 'topic in hand': many posters seem to be coming at the question with the idea that sexuality is something fixed, or permanent. I realise that's the fashionable 'sexuality is genetic' angle, but I'm not 100% convinced.

So you are straight because you chose to be?

I know I chose to be. I did it because I'm attracted to girls and not to boys. Come to think of it, it was quite an easy decision really.

So we're going down the "choice" avenue are we?

If anyone thinks it is a choice, then God help the rest of us.

I was taking the mick out of the idea that such an instinctive thing can be down to choice. I thought that was obvious, sorry. I'll put in a smiley or something next time.

I think tastes can change over time. I'm not attracted to the same people I was attracted to when I was 14. If I did I'd be in a lot of trouble. Maybe one day I'll wake up with a strong desire to indulge in some hot crazy man love. Not happened yet but you never know. I hope not though, think of the hygeine issues.

Human desires are flexible, but they are not a matter of choice.

[DamnCoffee]

Well, he did go to Eton. So the chances are pretty high that he dabbled in it at one time, or another.

Haven't we all...

There's nothing at all wrong with being hetrosexual, bisexual or homosexual. I don't think Fleming actually was, but being an openly bisexual person, I have no problem with him being any.

[Zorin Industries]

I was taking the mick out of the idea that such an instinctive thing can be down to choice. I thought that was obvious, sorry. I'll put in a smiley or something next time.

I think tastes can change over time. I'm not attracted to the same people I was attracted to when I was 14. If I did I'd be in a lot of trouble. Maybe one day I'll wake up with a strong desire to indulge in some hot crazy man love. Not happened yet but you never know. I hope not though, think of the hygeine issues.

Human desires are flexible, but they are not a matter of choice.

Fair enough.

"Hygiene issues".....? I would imagine the man would just put up with you the way you are...!

And seriously - why are men not so worried about those er "issues" when their wives have had a few light ales and willing to bend over backwards to please their men....?

[Harry Fawkes]

Gay or not, he was a great writer!

[Scrambled Eggs]

And seriously - why are men not so worried about those er "issues" when their wives have had a few light ales and willing to bend over backwards to please their men....?

And to think of all these years I've been plying them with Bacardi Breezer. Are there any light ales you'd like to recommend?

[Jim]

Well, he did go to Eton. So the chances are pretty high that he dabbled in it at one time, or another.

Haven't we all...

There's nothing at all wrong with being hetrosexual

I beg to differ. The price of children's shoes. That's all I'll say on the matter.

My brother's gay and he has a great time.

I wish I were gay.

[Zorin Industries]

And seriously - why are men not so worried about those er "issues" when their wives have had a few light ales and willing to bend over backwards to please their men....?

And to think of all these years I've been plying them with Bacardi Breezer. Are there any light ales you'd like to recommend?

Any bottle with a wide enough neck to drop in a few Rohypnols.

If the river runs red take the dirt road, that's what I was always told....(!)

[DamnCoffee]

LMFAO! Jim! :tup:

[Zorin Industries]

Well, he did go to Eton. So the chances are pretty high that he dabbled in it at one time, or another.

Haven't we all...

There's nothing at all wrong with being hetrosexual

I beg to differ. The price of children's shoes. That's all I'll say on the matter.

My brother's gay and he has a great time.

I wish I were gay.

It's a select group, you know. Not anyone is allowed in.

LMFAO! Jim! :tup:

The "L" does stand for 'Laugh' yes?

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

Interesting thread. I've just realised my sexuality by how I tie my shoes!
The only one that will really know if Fleming was gay is Fleming himself, end of thread

[Loomis]

Are you mad? He's not gay. If he was gay, 007 would be a gay secret agent.

Not necessarily. Gay authors don't just write about gay characters, just as straight authors don't just write about straight characters.

At least three of the directors of the Bond films were or are gay or have shopped on that side of the street, yet in none of their films has 007 been a gay secret agent.

[DamnCoffee]

Peter Hunt and Lee Tamahori are the only ones I can think of. Who is the other one? Forster?

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

Peter Hunt and Lee Tamahori are the only ones I can think of. Who is the other one? Forster?

Yeah I reckon

[Loomis]

I wasn't thinking of Forster. I've heard stories about one of the other guys, but since he isn't "out" that's all I'm sayin'.

[DamnCoffee]

Hmmm well the directors that haven't been married are:

Guy Hamilton.
Lewis Gilbert.
John Glen.
Martin Campbell.
Roger Spottiswoode.
Marc Forster.

Now, Out of all of them, I would say Gilbert.

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

Hmmm well the directors that haven't been married are:

Guy Hamilton.
Lewis Gilbert.
John Glen.
Martin Campbell.
Roger Spottiswoode.
Marc Forster.

Now, Out of all of them, I would say Gilbert.

As far as I know Gilbert, Hamilton, Campbell and Glen are married.

[Royal Dalton]

I reckon Terence Young swung both ways.

[DamnCoffee]

I reckon Terence Young swung both ways.

LMFAO I remember on an interview.

He was talking, I think it was during the filming of Thunderball, and he was wearing an open shirt, showing a rather hairy chest. He also had his leg crossed over his other one, wearing tight blue shorts, revealing a pair of very smooth, and clean shaven legs.

So yes, you're probably right.