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[Zorin Industries]

I reckon Terence Young swung both ways.

LMFAO I remember on an interview.

He was talking, I think it was during the filming for Thunderball, and he was wearing an open shirt, showing a rather hairy chest. He also had his leg crossed over his other one, wearing tight blue shorts, revealing a pair of very smooth, and clean shaven legs.

So yes, you're probably right.

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[DamnCoffee]

I got a gayish vibe from him. That's all.

[Zorin Industries]

I got a gayish vibe from him. That's all.

He was a gentleman from a different era of masculinity. Just because a bloke sits with his legs crossed and likes a fine sherry doesn't mean he gets his backgate knocked in twice weekly.

How very dare you? (!)

[Harry Fawkes]

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.
Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891

[DamnCoffee]

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.
Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891

Pierce Brosnan, After The Sunset, 2005.

[Harry Fawkes]

The bottom line is that all of us make decisions in life. Some of them result in all good things; some of them bring terrible consequenses. Nevertheless, one has to deal with the consequences of his/her own choices.

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

I got a gayish vibe from him. That's all.

He was a gentleman from a different era of masculinity. Just because a bloke sits with his legs crossed and likes a fine sherry doesn't mean he gets his backgate knocked in twice weekly.

How very dare you? (!)

I don't think Young was gay at all. But there was a bit of flamboyance to him and I don't think its wrong to say that in the minds of some, flamboyance is associated with homosexuality. Young was often said to be a bit like Fleming himself. So the thread kinda comes full circle.

[Harry Fawkes]

Keep in mind that people are human beings regardless of their sexual orientation. How we treat each other goes a long way in demonstrating our own humanity, or lack of it.

Roger Mulvaney/Harry Fawkes

[Scrambled Eggs]

Keep in mind that people are human beings regardless of their sexual orientation.

Yeah but can they whistle?

[RevolveR]

I just recently read Thrilling Cities for the first time and it was interesting to me that Fleming recommended making a visit to the various Transexual night clubs in Berlin, of which he describes one or two in great detail.

Not that this means any thing other than he was fascinated by the spectacle.

[MkB]

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.
Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891

I like men who like Oscar Wilde!
Which probably means my sexual orientation is a bit... disoriented!

[Loomis]

I got a gayish vibe from him. That's all.

He was a gentleman from a different era of masculinity. Just because a bloke sits with his legs crossed and likes a fine sherry doesn't mean he gets his backgate knocked in twice weekly.

How very dare you? (!)

[Tybre]

I don't think he was gay, but perhaps he dabbled, or something happened. In re-reading From A View to a Kill not too long ago something stuck out, Bond muses about an incident in which he says something to a cab driver (forget what) and the cab driver whisks him away to something -- what it is Fleming/Bond won't exactly say -- and he loses his virginity. For some reason when I read that passage I get the idea that Bond's first time was homosexual. Perhaps such a thing really happened to Fleming?

[agentjamesbond007]

I never heard of it, but I doubt he was gay.

At least he created James Bond and us being Bond fans.

[DamnCoffee]

For some really, REALLY strange reason, I can imagine Daniel Craig's Bond having somekind of homosexual experience, but not any of the other Bonds.

Saying that though, I don't think Bonds first time was homosexual. Didn't Bond have sex with a female maid? At Eton? In this school days?

[Revelator]

I don't think he was gay, but perhaps he dabbled, or something happened. In re-reading From A View to a Kill not too long ago something stuck out, Bond muses about an incident in which he says something to a cab driver (forget what) and the cab driver whisks him away to something -- what it is Fleming/Bond won't exactly say -- and he loses his virginity.

It's quite obviously a whorehouse. Bond gives the driver the address for it. It's exactly the sort of thing you'd expect a 16 year old Bond in Paris to go to.

[The Shark]

Peter Hunt and Lee Tamahori are the only ones I can think of. Who is the other one? Forster?

Well Hunt always seemed a bit camp vocal-wise, and Tamahori was caught performing an act with a police officer, and Forster simply has a taste for scarves and a Swiss German accent - hardly surefire proof is it?

[MkB]

I don't think he was gay, but perhaps he dabbled, or something happened. In re-reading From A View to a Kill not too long ago something stuck out, Bond muses about an incident in which he says something to a cab driver (forget what) and the cab driver whisks him away to something -- what it is Fleming/Bond won't exactly say -- and he loses his virginity.

It's quite obviously a whorehouse. Bond gives the driver the address for it. It's exactly the sort of thing you'd expect a 16 year old Bond in Paris to go to.

Er, no, to be thoroughly exact, he gives the cab driver the address of a renowned bar, Harry's New York Bar in Paris. I don't think the direction would appreciate the establishment being described as a whorehouse, at all
Although, yes, after that it is implied or said that Bond lost his virginity with a whore at 16 (which, if you ask me, is really bleak).

[B. Brown]

In his service days, didn't he bed chicks like it was going out of style? Along with gambling, smoking, and drinking.

It seems as if Bond was simply a literary and fictionalized version of Ian Fleming.

And would you ever think Bond is gay? (Well, er, the literary Bond at least)

I wouldn't. I don't see much evidence pointing toward Ian Fleming being a homosexual. So, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no, he wasn't gay.

Edited by B. Brown, 03 July 2009 - 05:11 PM.

[Virgo Lupin]

Transcription from part of a telephone conversation with Kevin McClory:

"Ian Fleming was not a dishonest man, simply an arrogant one. I am absolutely convinced that when he wrote the novel, 'THUNDERBALL', lifting all the best elements, characters and plot-points from my film script, he felt absolutely justified that what he was doing was his 'God-given-right. His enormous arrogance was in his 'not mentioning or acknowledging' Whittingham's and my contribution to the story. It was 'my film script.' Fleming wrote margin notes. Whittingham and I wrote the screenplay, based on my creations of 'Ernst Stavro Blofeld, the criminal organization, 'spectre', and the plotline of the stolen a-bombs." "To Fleming and Ivar Bryce, I was just some 'wild hooligan’, some Irish hayseed, full of blarney, but no money -- and no influence. They had forgotten I worked with John Huston, and later with Mike Todd. I had a very focused plan for 'Latitude 78 West', and I wasn't about to let these two steal it from me. It was a 'class' problem, with Fleming -- he, coming from a wealthy English banking family. This snobbish attitude on Fleming's part, his arrogance toward me, made me all the more determined to face-off with him in the British courts. It was very personal with me, but it was also business." “Fleming took the position he owned Bond, thus he owned my story. He, certainly, did not own my story. It was typical of his arrogance, especially after he and Bryce started talking about Alfred Hitchcock as the director and edging me out of the deal, a deal I walked into, again, in-good-faith. The only thing I did was take Fleming to court and reclaim my work, which he used without permission." "It is annoying to me to see on the Internet now that I stole ‘THUNDERBALL’ from Ian Fleming.

Those people who write that did not know Ian Fleming. They did not know Ivar Bryce, and they did not know what was in my contract with the production company we created for the production of 'Latitude 78 West.' Fleming knew what he was doing was unlawful. It was a direct copyright infringement of my script. His arrogance was in that he did not care and he lied to his own publisher, Jonathan Cape Ltd. about his total authorship. It is that simple." “Fleming's unlawful actions forced me to take him into court. He used the plot. He used the characters. He used everything and left me with nothing. He and Bryce were determined to ignore their responsibilities to our contract. In short, they thought they would give this Irishman their usual brush-off and I would go away with my tail-between-my-legs, never to be heard from again. I was determined not to let them get away with it, anymore than I would let two thieves get away with stealing my children. 'Latitude 78 West' was my child not Fleming's. In the process he lost his right to film that Bond story, thanks to the common sense of the British Courts." "When I learned that Broccoli & Saltzman were going to make ‘THUNDERBALL’ their first James Bond film I had no choice but to take Fleming to court to prevent it. My back was against the wall. If i didn't take Fleming to court, I had no one but myself to blame for losing those film rights. I wasn't about to let that happen. Never!" "I attempted to get an injunction to stop the publication of ‘THUNDERBALL’, but the courts ruled that the expense and costs of printing the first editions of ‘THUNDERBALL’, which included their advertising campaign, would cause a financial crisis for that firm. So, the publication went forward. ‘THUNDERBALL’ was published without any notice of my co-authorship, along with Jack Whittingham. I did not wish to cause any unnecessary hardship for Fleming's publisher. His publisher was not a collaborator with Fleming and Bryce. But, after I had officially won my rights to film the book, I insisted -- and the court agreed -- that the novel would henceforth in later printings read, 'based upon an original story by Kevin McClory, Jack Whittingham, and Ian Fleming’, which is what it says in the credits of both ‘THUNDERBALL’ and ‘Never Say Never Again’, and will say in the credits of 'Warhead’, when it goes before the cameras at the end of the year. 'Warhead', though it is a screenplay by Sean Connery, Len Deighton and myself, it is based upon the treatments created by 'Kevin McClory, Jack Whittingham and Ian Fleming."

"I am not ashamed that I stood up for my rights. I protected my rights in ‘THUNDERBALL’ with the same guarded zealousness that Broccoli used during his career. My screen rights derive from Ian Fleming, not Danjaq, not MGM, not United Artists, not from anyone in the Broccoli family. Sony and John Calley have been smart enough to recognize this. I am vigorously protecting my rights in the ‘THUNDERBALL’ screenplay and treatments. I have the right to do a television series based upon these rights as well." "Danjaq, MGM and United Artists know that I own these rights. I own the copyright and that copyright is filed. The British courts recognize my deed of title to the scripts and treatments based upon 'Latitude 78 West.' Fleming and Bryce forfeited any rights to my story when Fleming unlawfully infringed upon my rights with the publication of ‘THUNDERBALL’”

"Sony's lawyers and mine are investigating infringements upon me, by Danjaq, MGM and United Artists, when Broccoli deliberately used elements and characters based upon my script in his first bond films, "Dr. No," "From Russia With Love," "You Only Live Twice," "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" and "Diamonds Are Forever." I am entitled to payment for infringement by them of my rights, in the creation of the cinematic James Bond." “I am looking forward to a successful film of 'Warhead.' Regardless, of what should happen -- I have secreted away -- a number of letters and legal papers, protecting my rights. Copies are now with solicitors and colleagues in Amsterdam, Brussels, London, Paris, Dublin, Nassau and Gstaad. I have revealing letters between Ian Fleming and Ivar Bryce, which I am certain no one in their families would wish to see in print. I believe James Bond's image would be seen quite differently, if these letters were published. I do not have them for any purpose of blackmail, I simply have them." “As for legal papers regarding James Bond and the exclusive rights to make the films by MGM and United Artists, there are papers in locked boxes in those cities that will prove beyond a doubt that they do not. We will soon be going up against MGM and United Artists in the American courts, but America is not the only country with a system of justice or the only country that protects intellectual property rights. These papers, through instructions by me, will be made available '007' years after my death. The bombshell awaits, I suppose..."

[DAN LIGHTER]

Well, he died a very long time ago so maybe we should celebrate his life and works rather than pouring scorn on the old fire. Who knows he might be somewhat pissed off to find a thread titled 'Was Ian Fleming Gay' put up on a James Bond fan website. But hey ho we will never know.

[HildebrandRarity]

Perhaps he was Trisexual...He'd Try anything!?

[Mr. Blofeld]

Well, if he wasn't gay, why on Earth would he then be strawberry-flavoured?!?