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[witgob]

Rats! I hang out for the commentary.
I sort of knew - judging by my experiences with other stuff - that the best is yet to come.
Be patient, Grasshopper!

[Vauxhall]

Pretty shocked by that if this indeed turns out to be the full selection of extras for the CASINO ROYALE DVD. Cannot remember the last time I bought a DVD that did not have at least a commentary attached to it. Very poor indeed.

[Qwerty]

Completely disappointed with the special features listing.

[bill007]

I feel like I was just short-changed at the market.

Once again, proof-positive the we, as consumers, exist only to be mined over and over again. I can see it going down something like this:
First we'll get the rush job for March 2007. Then we'll get the SE version for Christmas 2007 (with the trailers). And, finally, we'll get the UE version for pre-Bond 22 October 2008 (with the outakes).

[dinovelvet]

Pretty shocked by that if this indeed turns out to be the full selection of extras for the CASINO ROYALE DVD. Cannot remember the last time I bought a DVD that did not have at least a commentary attached to it. Very poor indeed.

Well, they could have easily just put out the film on dvd with no extras whatsoever, but didn't, they have given us some decent stuff. I dunno, I'd like to see more stuff on the DVD too, but some people in here are acting like Sony owe them 103 hours of bonus material or something. They COULD have put out the film only on DVD and everyone would have bought it anyway, but they chose to put some extra stuff in, so why not look forward to what we are getting instead of complaining about what we're not.
In regards to the commentary, maybe the filmmakers would rather the film speaks for itself. I'd rather have no commentary than one that is obviously being done out of obligation or for a paycheck (Brosnan on DAD comes to mind).

[sorking]

Well, they could have easily just put out the film on dvd with no extras whatsoever, but didn't, they have given us some decent stuff. I dunno, I'd like to see more stuff on the DVD too, but some people in here are acting like Sony owe them 103 hours of bonus material or something. They COULD have put out the film only on DVD and everyone would have bought it anyway, but they chose to put some extra stuff in, so why not look forward to what we are getting instead of complaining about what we're not.

Because we know better could be done. And has been in the past. And because it's very, very obvious that this is the first of a double-dip plan, which is a way of getting extra money from consumers in a not-totally-genuine, up-front way.

Of course we're not entitled, but knowing (okay, ALMOST knowing) a second edition is to follow is pretty galling. And this is a minimal-effort DVD - all the extras are pre-existing. Now for some DVDs, there simply isn't the budget for such things, and you use what you have. But this particular film, right now, off the back of this particular franchise? Sales are as guaranteed as they can be. The money IS there.

And will be again, annoyingly, for the second, winter edition. As another poister mentioned, at least LOTR admitted their plans up-front to offer people the choice.

In regards to the commentary, maybe the filmmakers would rather the film speaks for itself. I'd rather have no commentary than one that is obviously being done out of obligation or for a paycheck (Brosnan on DAD comes to mind).

But it's Martin Campbell - he almost always does commentary on his films, alongside his DP. And they make for a great, interesting pair. Even on average films like the second Zorro, the commentary itself is pretty damn good.

But then, as I say, it's clearly part of a long-term strategy and I guess I should just hold off for the second edition. I just don't think I have the willpower!

[Qwerty]

-----UPDATE-----

Casino Royale DVD Special Features Update

90 minutes of extras; no audio commentary

[PrinceKamalKhan]

No audio commentary? That's disappointing. I would like to have heard Campbell and/or Craig and/or Miss Green discuss the film. I have a funny feeling a future DVD "Ultimate Edition" release will probably feature something like that, though.

[Double-0-Seven]

I'm surprised there's not at least one commentary. Also disappointing that Die Another Day had several hours of special features where as this only has ninety minutes. I was hoping for at least a screen test.

[B5Erik]

What...A...Joke.

I guess they figured we'd forget what a nice package they put out for a much inferior Bond movie last time - and that was with the FIRST DVD release of DAD!

So now they figure they can get us all with the stripped down release, get us again in 9 months or a year with the upgraded SE, and then finally on the HD/Blu-Ray UE version a year from now.

I mean, they could have easily gotten a documentary covering the history of Casino Royale together before the movie came out. Adding the original Climax TV version would have been easy. Minimal additional effort would have made for a much more satisfying DVD release.

But then they would have a hard time selling the upgraded version later....

[K1Bond007]

Clearly a rushed DVD. Shame on Sony.

I'll bet it's re-released either in 2008 alongside the release of Bond 22 in theaters or in 2009 alongside the release of Bond 22 on DVD (which will likely have crappy features too).

I already have Bond Girls Are Forever so this sucks even more. Just a commentary would have been nice.

[B5Erik]

Yeah, what's up with putting Bond Girls Are Forever on the DVD? There are tons of DVD's of that floating out there, so this becomes redundant for a large percentage of Bond fans.

This is the most disappointing DVD package in years...

(Man, why couldn't Warner Brothers have upped their bid for MGM??)

[tdalton]

I'm not too concerned by the lack of extras on the release of Casino Royale. The only thing that I really wanted to see was a detailed documentary about the search for the new 007, and seeing as how we'd never get anything really detailed on that front (such as screen tests of various actors and stuff like that), then all I really care about really is the movie. If they come out with a new version in another year or so with some great, standout special features, then I might check it out. But, otherwise, I'm happy with just having the movie.

[Vauxhall]

If I'm not mistaken, the only original feature on the DVD will be the look at the CASINO ROYALE stunts. In addition to the Chris Cornell music video, the "Becoming Bond" and "Bond Girls Forever" featurettes have both been shown on television (in the UK at least) and all can be found within a couple of minutes on YouTube. The more I think about it, the less impressed I am! I'd at least have expected the "Making of" features that were on the offical website to appear on the DVD. Seems a shame that it's all going to have to wait!!

[Harmsway]

The only thing I miss is a look at the deleted material. Other than that, I'm cool with the DVD we're getting. I do anticipate another re-release (the "Super Duper Ultimate Limited Edition Extended Edition" release) around the time of BOND 22's release.

[SilencedPPK]

"Shocking. Positively shocking!"

[SecretAgentFan]

Yeah, disappointing indeed. However, a commentary might be much more interesting after a year has passed. Right now they probably could not tell us anything we don

[Loomis]

The only thing I miss is a look at the deleted material.

I dunno. I normally don't bother to listen to commentaries (even on Bond DVDs), but I'd been looking forward to those for CASINO ROYALE, a film that I believe merits several. I'd love to hear the likes of Stuart Baird, Broccoli and Wilson, Campbell, Craig, Haggis and Purvis and Wade sounding off at length about CR, as well as a commentary by a "Bond expert" like John Cork. Actually, given that he's not only a Bond expert, but that he also wrote a stage adaptation of CR, I think Raymond Benson would be a perfect choice for a commentary.

[DamnCoffee]

Where has the 'Death in Venice' featurette dissapeared to?

[Gri007]

Surely Casino Royale being a great film it is should deserve alot of extra features. I mean Casino Royale un cut, would be fantastic and as some one on CBN has said that if it included the deleted scenes it would potentially be the best Bond film ever.

Would this have all been different if Sony wasn't involved?

[_Ozu_]

The DVD has been announced in Spain for March 29th on a single DVD edition.

I'm rather angry about this.

[Qwerty]

No audio commentary? That's disappointing.

Extremely. I was expecting alot more on this DVD.

[deth]

didn't Sony's other big franchise, Spiderman, have really great DVD's on first release?


if so... this is all the more disappointing....

[DamnCoffee]

MGM would have taken more care

[Joe Bond]

I am also disappointed with the special features on the DVD but I think this is becasue of the switch to SPHE and not Eon becasue if MGM were to distribute CR's DVD it would have both a 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS track with one or two commentaries like DAD and a few new featurettes and all of the trailers/TV spots like DAD. The only new special features I see on this DVD is the Bond Girls are Forever(2006), and James Bond For Real. I believe that the Bond Girls Are Forever is not the original from 2003 becasue like someone else mentioned that they put 2006 next to the title on the backcover artwork. Overall I am dissapointed with the special features but the important thing is that the theatrical version of the movie is included for me to watch over and over again and thats all I care about.

[Tiin007]

The easiest things to put on these DVDs are the trailers and TV spots. Why couldn't we at least get those? The only way I can watch them is online, and I'd much rather them be on DVD.

I don't really mind the lack of special features, because when the Ultimate Edition comes out, I'll probably be getting it on blu-ray. Since I'll have to update to the new format anyway, I'd rather be getting something extra other than better quality. And yes, I know blu-ray players also play DVDs, but once I buy a blu-ray player I'll feel compelled to get Casino Royale on blu-ray.

Edited by Tiin007, 28 January 2007 - 07:26 PM.

[Publius]

I couldn't care less about commentaries. I've always found them a distraction more than anything else.

I much prefer making-of documentaries, and even those I could do without, given that I only watch them once or twice, at most. Plus, like Gravity's Silhouette pointed out, they won't be frank with us for another twenty or so years, so what we'd get we already know or wouldn't be interesting.

I do like deleted/extended scenes, but unless they offered the option of an extended/director's cut, I don't really mind all that much.

What does bother me is the absence of trailers and TV spots, even if I rarely watch them. It just shows a complete lack of effort on their part to not include something that requires zero work to add to a DVD.

As long as the audio/video quality of the film is top-notch, though, I'll pick it up, and won't bother getting the "upgrade" for at least two years, probably more.

[Qwerty]

didn't Sony's other big franchise, Spiderman, have really great DVD's on first release?

I have both of those DVDs, and they definitely had a hell of a lot more special features than this does.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Putting this on 2 disks is a complete farce, an attempt to make it sound like there might be some worth while extras. I've come to expect a lot from Bond DVDs. The first DVD I ever bought was a James Bond SE. As far as I'm concerned the bare minimum is including promotional material and a commentary. How hard would that have been? It would've taken a few hours of Martin Campbell's time and that's it.

Yep, I'm going on a boycott. Not because of someone's hair colour or appearance, but because Sony is trying to rip off the true fans of the series. The same fans that went to the cinema to see CR 6 times. Sorry, no dice Sony. Get back to me when you have a proper release of CR on the table. The release the fans and the film itself deserves.

[EyesOnly]

All I really want is the movie...all the rest of the stuff is a bonus. If it's not there that's fine!