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#151 Loomis

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 10:19 PM

This is just straight up bat[censored] denial at this point. If CR has "failed" then all of Brosnan's films have, too.


Exactly. It's so [censored]witted it's not only hilarious and scary but really almost exquisite. And, yes, there could just as easily be a BrosnanwasneverBond site trumpeting his failures such as:

- Being trounced at the box office by animated animals (STUART LITTLE outgrossing THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH by roughly the same amount as HAPPY FEET's lead over CASINO ROYALE).

- A low budget comedy about a Greek wedding almost doubling DIE ANOTHER DAY's Stateside gross. James. Bond. Beaten by.... A. Film. About. A. Greek. Wedding. A Greek wedding! Hahahahaha! Yep, folks, you read that right: Americans are now so turned off by the once mighty 007 that they'd sooner watch Mickey Mouse movies about foreign marriages heeheeheeheehee!

- TOMORROW NEVER DIES only opening at number four in El Salvador. The shame!

Et cetera.

#152 ek5a

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

I've always wanted to comment on the proceedings but somehow I've always gotten sidetracked.

I've been getting the impression (albeit small) that CR isn't doing that well (or as well as it should)in the US based upon the recent discussions on this thread. Personally, I feel it's done phenomenal business and is a unreserved success. It has had very positive reactions, financially and critically especially if you weigh in these factors.

1)It's a Bond debut. One who was maligned in the press and elsewhere before the release.
2)It was never expected to beat DAD. Nor was it expected to have the numbers it has had so far.
3)It's taking a different and darker direction than the other installments. Uncharted waters here.
4)No super well known actors (so far - and its going to be the past since Craig is now very established)
5)It's not really a kids movie thus less tickets per viewing for a family especially during a holiday season.
6)Longer running time

I know everyone is looking at the inflation adjusted scale to compare but I personally don't. I understand why but I don't. The general public doesn't and the studios themselves really don't either. They always play the game in the now.

Titanic is touted as the Highest grossing movie of all time when in actuality, it's Gone with the Wind. But it's generally accepted that Titanic is the movie to beat. Plus you have to factor that there were DVDs or Videtapes during those periods as well as a longer waiting period before the movies are released on home video. The movies themselves play longer on the cinemas. As far as I'm concerned, the playing field is more or less the same - then and now. One of the reasons why I just see the Boxoffice and not the inflated adjusted one. Different factors in play. Heck, DAD is stated as the most successful when it's really Thunderball. So by that token, I'm accepting CR as the most succesful.

Even when you factor ticket prices a few years ago to the prices now, audience still went to watch CR despite the high prices. Good word of mouth boosted that. Few years back, it's an acceptable risk to use your hard earned cash to watch a movie you were not sure about. Cheaper tickets meant people will watch anything once. People are more choosy now so I'd say CR's boxoffice is a good indication of public acceptance and endorsement. All this for a first time and generally unknown actor as Bond. It's a success, allright.

If things go as well as they should (writing, production etc), I'd go so far as to predict it will have even bigger business with Bond22 using the template/history of Bourne Identity and Pirates of the Carribean 1 as a guide. Those movies came out and found new audiences and made a bigger splash the second time around.

CR found and grabbed the Bond aficianados as well as enticed new and varied fans to the fold. I'm pretty sure the next opening will be bigger than that of CR's opening day. To me, that would really be the indicator of how successful this whole endeavour was.

Sorry for the long post, just needed to get it out of my system. There's more points i wanted to make but I just forgotten it all. In anycase, less points to bore you with. Sigh.

Edited by ek5a, 01 January 2007 - 01:23 PM.


#153 ek5a

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

My first post and I double posted. Apologies.

Edited by ek5a, 01 January 2007 - 12:55 PM.


#154 Miss M

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 04:39 PM

ek5a -

I agree with what you said. I just was hoping that CR would blow DAD out of the water by quite a bit here in the U.S. My big question is not really why CR has made $150 mil here, it's why DAD ever made more than that! It's certainly a success, was not implying anything else.

I looked up the time between when DAD was released in theaters vs. its time to video, which was a little over 6 months. CR will be released to video in about 4 months (if the estimates are correct), a significant difference. I think this is now about average for a film, and may be cutting into the theater grosses. There are a lot of people who just don't want to spend $40 per couple for a movie and some massively overpriced popcorn and soda when you can wait 4 months and buy the thing on DVD for $15!! We may be getting to where people will come out for an "event" movie (and for those of us on this website, this definitely qualifies as an event movie!) but I suspect the shorter theater to DVD time, along with a price drop on the DVDs for sale in recent years, is causing some movies to gross less at the B.O. than they would have in the past, even 4 years ago when DAD came out. I will be very interested to see how well CR does in the DVD rental/sales numbers vs. the Brosnan films. My guess is it will do MUCH better.

#155 bill007

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 04:44 PM

Welcome to the forums ek5a and Miss M.

Happy New Year!

#156 ek5a

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 06:28 PM

Thank you. It's great to be here especially on a site where there's a lot of intelligent discussion on Bond.

By the way, reading up on this thread spurred me to check out the danielcraigisnotbond.com site and I believe they haven't updated for the last three weeks or so. I last checked out that site, for personal painful amusement, three weeks ago and it looks exactly the same now.

Which begs the question - utterly and completely thrown in the towel?

Edited by ek5a, 01 January 2007 - 06:31 PM.


#157 Miss M

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

Thank you. It's great to be here especially on a site where there's a lot of intelligent discussion on Bond.

By the way, reading up on this thread spurred me to check out the danielcraigisnotbond.com site and I believe they haven't updated for the last three weeks or so. I last checked out that site, for personal painful amusement, three weeks ago and it looks exactly the same now.

Which begs the question - utterly and completely thrown in the towel?


If they're smart they've gone underground. :cooltongue:

I too am glad to be part of these forums. Thanks for the welcome!

#158 Qwerty

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 07:18 PM

Thank you. It's great to be here especially on a site where there's a lot of intelligent discussion on Bond.

By the way, reading up on this thread spurred me to check out the danielcraigisnotbond.com site and I believe they haven't updated for the last three weeks or so. I last checked out that site, for personal painful amusement, three weeks ago and it looks exactly the same now.

Which begs the question - utterly and completely thrown in the towel?


Welcome to the CBn Forums. :cooltongue:

#159 JackWade

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 08:58 PM

http://boxofficemojo...p;id=bondvs.htm

Also, CR's Monday domestic gross of $1.9 million has zoomed itself ahead of DAD at this point in it's release by about $1.5 million! In comparison, DAD only made $235,000 on this day. That's huge!

:cooltongue:

#160 mario007

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 09:01 PM

Thanks for the update JackWade ... 170 million certainly seems possible now ... even 165 million would be more than a overwhelming success!

Edited by mario007, 01 January 2007 - 09:02 PM.


#161 Tiin007

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 09:05 PM

http://boxofficemojo...p;id=bondvs.htm

Also, CR's Monday domestic gross of $1.9 million has zoomed itself ahead of DAD at this point in it's release by about $1.5 million! In comparison, DAD only made $235,000 on this day. That's huge!

:cooltongue:


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#162 ek5a

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 09:19 PM

That's really good news indeed. Come forth sweet, sweet vindication.

#163 kneelbeforezod

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 09:51 PM

CR's Monday domestic gross of $1.9 million has zoomed itself ahead of DAD at this point in it's release by about $1.5 million! In comparison, DAD only made $235,000 on this day. That's huge!

Though presumably that's due to it being New Year's day... That $235,000 wasn't on New Year's day I'm guessing... or was it?

Still great news though.

#164 K1Bond007

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 10:29 PM

CR's Monday domestic gross of $1.9 million has zoomed itself ahead of DAD at this point in it's release by about $1.5 million! In comparison, DAD only made $235,000 on this day. That's huge!

Though presumably that's due to it being New Year's day... That $235,000 wasn't on New Year's day I'm guessing... or was it?

Still great news though.


Die Another Day's New Year's came on day 41 of release. Royale's is on 46. Bond 22's should be on day 56 of release.

#165 JackWade

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 10:32 PM

CR's Monday domestic gross of $1.9 million has zoomed itself ahead of DAD at this point in it's release by about $1.5 million! In comparison, DAD only made $235,000 on this day. That's huge!

Though presumably that's due to it being New Year's day... That $235,000 wasn't on New Year's day I'm guessing... or was it?

Still great news though.

True, but DAD's New Year's came earlier than CR's, so it's legit.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:48 AM

http://boxofficemojo...p;id=bondvs.htm

Also, CR's Monday domestic gross of $1.9 million has zoomed itself ahead of DAD at this point in it's release by about $1.5 million! In comparison, DAD only made $235,000 on this day. That's huge!

:cooltongue:


Definately great news! At $155.5 million currently, $160 million definately looks obtainable by next weekend.

It looks like my constant ranting regarding the somewhat slower box office intake in the U.S. has finally paid off! :angry:

#167 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:59 AM

Piracey has eaten into US Domestic over the last 4 years and box office is, as EVERYONE who's intelligent knows, is down generally.

I know people who no longer go to the movies because the local chinaman around the corner sells the latest hollywood flick for $5 or 5 for $20.

In that light I think CR has done extremely well and piracey is one reason why George Lucas wont make new Star Wars movies.

CR is the 4th top movie of the year in terms of gross world wide and that's a few notches higher than DAD. It's a success. Period. It's ensured that there WILL be a Bond 23 no matter what happens in Nov '08.

#168 bill007

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 03:18 AM

Thank you. It's great to be here especially on a site where there's a lot of intelligent discussion on Bond.

By the way, reading up on this thread spurred me to check out the danielcraigisnotbond.com site and I believe they haven't updated for the last three weeks or so. I last checked out that site, for personal painful amusement, three weeks ago and it looks exactly the same now.

Which begs the question - utterly and completely thrown in the towel?


If they're smart they've gone underground. :D

I too am glad to be part of these forums. Thanks for the welcome!


This thread indicates the apparent closure of the dreaded CraigNotBond website.
http://debrief.comma...showtopic=33018

You'll find sentiment on that subject around here runs from mediocre :cooltongue: to downright militant :angry: but mostly in good jest.

You'll have seen your greeting by CBn's own Qwerty: THE most active moderator you'll find in all of forum-dom. :lol:

Edited by bill007, 02 January 2007 - 03:30 AM.


#169 Qwerty

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:43 AM

http://boxofficemojo...p;id=bondvs.htm

Also, CR's Monday domestic gross of $1.9 million has zoomed itself ahead of DAD at this point in it's release by about $1.5 million! In comparison, DAD only made $235,000 on this day. That's huge!

:cooltongue:


:angry:

#170 Miss M

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 10:40 PM

So glad to see that CR is holding up so well going into its 8TH WEEK of release!!! Yowsa.

Oops!! CnB goes down for the count, Craig gets last laugh. :cooltongue:

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 04:53 AM

http://boxofficemojo...jamesbond21.htm

Official worldwide total: $491,929,661. 47th all-time.

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Edited by JackWade, 03 January 2007 - 04:57 AM.


#172 brittany

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:53 AM

I know - it is only a drop in the sea - but I was so happy to see the box office details from our country this morning.
You must take into consideration that we are really a very small - VERY SMALL - country: Luxembourg (for the moment 450.000 residents) ;-)

Casino Royale has kept the N

#173 Gabriel

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 03:11 PM

Last night, I finally got to see Casino Royale, after weeks of heavy work and the like holding me back. I loved every second of it. Will I go to see it again? Possibly. The DVD is certainly an immediate must-buy! I hope they'll even release an 'unrated' tougher version!!!

Finally, after years of waiting, I've seen a Bond done the way I like it!

Martin Campbell really pulled the rabbit out of the hat. I felt that GoldenEye was awful and a false dawn for the revamped series, so I honestly wasn't keen on the Brocollis' choice of director. But I'm convinced!! I'm really looking forward to the next film!!

This film deserves to romp home at the box office. Given its pan-European cast, it'll do very, very well here!!

#174 Qwerty

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

[quote name='brittany' post='681199' date='4 January 2007 - 06:53']I know - it is only a drop in the sea - but I was so happy to see the box office details from our country this morning.
You must take into consideration that we are really a very small - VERY SMALL - country: Luxembourg (for the moment 450.000 residents) ;-)

Casino Royale has kept the N

#175 brittany

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 06:12 AM

@Qwerty - thanks for the welcome, CBn Forums is really the place to be for a Bond fan ;-)

#176 K1Bond007

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 06:56 PM

As suspected, Casino Royale has passed the $500 million mark worldwide. Should have done it a few days ago. Variety reported on Thursday that it had grossed $350 million overseas (presumably as of Wednesday). This gives it a current known grand total of $506,272,280.

Should be something like this now: Worldwide | US

As discussed earlier, admissions vary depending on the source (mainly just the Brosnan ones), but it's pretty good ball park.

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

Should be something like this now: Worldwide | US

Your worldwide chart lists the wrong year. :angry:

Anyway, interesting to see that CR has all of Brosnans pretty much beat, even after adjusting for inflation. I bet the overseas figures would be even more dramatic, dwarfing all but those of GoldenEye, and even that's in sight. Great news for the future of the series, and Craig's era in particular. :cooltongue:

#178 K1Bond007

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 10:41 PM

Should be something like this now: Worldwide | US

Your worldwide chart lists the wrong year. :angry:

Anyway, interesting to see that CR has all of Brosnans pretty much beat, even after adjusting for inflation. I bet the overseas figures would be even more dramatic, dwarfing all but those of GoldenEye, and even that's in sight. Great news for the future of the series, and Craig's era in particular. :cooltongue:


Damn. Thanks for telling me. Since I had to fix it I went ahead and added Thursday's domestic figures for both. Obviously not going to be a big change, but for this approximate number it did push Royale over 77 million (still not counting Thursday's overseas or today's for that matter).

#179 Qwerty

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 12:39 AM

Now on the CBn main page...



CBn rounds up all the latest details


*Updated on 4 January 2007.

#180 K1Bond007

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 09:22 PM

With a Jan. 5 opening in Italy and continuing traction, the final foreign cume could wind up in the $375 million range

http://www.variety.c.....asino Royale"

It was last reported at 350. This would put it up at 535 (grand total, foreign + US) not counting the remaining weeks in the US.