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[Qwerty]

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Casino Royale - Box Office Details

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[doubler83]

See people in Syria don't care for Bond.

Possibly grossing in excess of $575 million. Oh my. And who said it was going to flop big time?

[JCRendle]

Aw, I thought this was going to flop CnB lied to me!

[NATO Sub]

Yes, wasn't a certain Mr. Gravity's Silhouette predicting a $27million opening in the US? Only out by 50% Nice to see CR, deservedly, #1 in the world and on course to surpass DAD.

[EWKDSMB]

Excellent

[yolt13]

In a related note, every time the kiddies go back to school, CR seems to surge ahead of HF in the US (I know this really irrelevant now, but in case anyone's still paying attention). Monday was a predictably slow day at the box-office here in the States, but CR was #1 with $1.7 mil to HF's $1.3. It's still about $5 mil behind HF for total domestic gross, but it gains ground each weekday. Ultimately, they will likely finish neck-and-neck with one another in U.S. receipts... unless CR can hang in there against rather modest competition (BLOOD DIAMOND, TURISTAS, VAN WILDER 2) until the 15th, when HF figures to lose a huge chunk of its demographic to ERAGON and CHARLOTTE'S WEB.

[Publius]

Just for the record, my final predictions as of mid-October were:

Domestic opening weekend: $40 million
Domestic total: $160 million
Worldwide total: $530 million

The key point is that I expected CR to start higher than GoldenEye but lower than DAD, and make 10-15% less in the States than the latter, but last longer (for an opening weekend to total ratio of 25%), a la GE or TLD. I also predicted it would clean house overseas with a foreign to worldwide ratio of 70% (on par with GE, and higher than the other Brosnans, but lower than the likes of LALD or LTK).

So far, that means I called the domestic opening weekend fairly accurately, and my other totals may not be off by much. I still think $160 million domestic is a little bit of a reach (but nothing too big), but more importantly, it now seems that it may turn out that I underestimated its worldwide potential, even with one of the more ambitious predictions I've seen on this site. But don't get me wrong, I think that's a good thing.

[NATO Sub]

Just for the record, my final predictions as of mid-October were:

Domestic opening weekend: $40 million
Domestic total: $160 million
Worldwide total: $530 million

The key point is that I expected CR to start higher than GoldenEye but lower than DAD, and make 10-15% less in the States than the latter, but last longer (for an opening weekend to total ratio of 25%), a la GE or TLD. I also predicted it would clean house overseas with a foreign to worldwide ratio of 70% (on par with GE, and higher than the other Brosnans, but lower than the likes of LALD or LTK).

So far, that means I called the domestic opening weekend fairly accurately, and my other totals may not be off by much. I still think $160 million domestic is a little bit of a reach (but nothing too big), but more importantly, it now seems that it may turn out that I underestimated its worldwide potential, even with one of the more ambitious predictions I've seen on this site. But don't get me wrong, I think that's a good thing.

A well deserved pat on the back for you. Now, where's GS? I have some humble pie here and it's getting cold!

[4 Ur Eyez Only]

This weekend will tell us allot, if it stays in the 20's then wow that is huge word of mouth & also repeat business

[Qwerty]

Just for the record, my final predictions as of mid-October were:

Domestic opening weekend: $40 million
Domestic total: $160 million
Worldwide total: $530 million

Fairly good estimates, it seems.

[gkgyver]

Casino Royale surpassed the opening weekend of Return Of The King in Germany.

[kneelbeforezod]

Just for the record, my final predictions as of mid-October were:

Domestic opening weekend: $40 million
Domestic total: $160 million
Worldwide total: $530 million

The key point is that I expected CR to start higher than GoldenEye but lower than DAD, and make 10-15% less in the States than the latter, but last longer (for an opening weekend to total ratio of 25%), a la GE or TLD. I also predicted it would clean house overseas with a foreign to worldwide ratio of 70% (on par with GE, and higher than the other Brosnans, but lower than the likes of LALD or LTK).

So far, that means I called the domestic opening weekend fairly accurately, and my other totals may not be off by much. I still think $160 million domestic is a little bit of a reach (but nothing too big), but more importantly, it now seems that it may turn out that I underestimated its worldwide potential, even with one of the more ambitious predictions I've seen on this site. But don't get me wrong, I think that's a good thing.

I've noticed in other threads that you are pretty savvy when it comes to box office, going into detail about inflation, admissions etc... and now your predictions for CR appear to be right on the money.

Consequently, I bestow on you the title of "Captain Box Office"; you can now use it after your name on letterheads etc

[Scottlee]

I'm quite staggered by how well CR is doing. I thought it would do reasonably well at the box office but not as well as this. I predicted CR might equal some of the lesser performing Brosnan entries but fall short of DAD. How wrong I was.

CR deserves these figures though. In terms of quality it is in the higher bracket of 007 films.

[Qwerty]

Casino Royale - Box Office Details

_{CBn rounds up all the latest details}

*Updated on 7 December 2006.

[Donovan]

I'm curious as to how anyone can predict this film will gross more than $500 million worldwide. I'm skeptical that it can hit $400 million worldwide.

With regards to being "on track" to surpass "Die Another Day" in the US, for instance. DAD opened Nov 24, and by this time it had grossed $120. Right now, CR is also at about $120, with an extra seven days of business.

[K1Bond007]

I'm curious as to how anyone can predict this film will gross more than $500 million worldwide. I'm skeptical that it can hit $400 million worldwide.

With regards to being "on track" to surpass "Die Another Day" in the US, for instance. DAD opened Nov 24, and by this time it had grossed $120. Right now, CR is also at about $120, with an extra seven days of business.

There are still a number of territories that don't have the film yet and there is a lot of time to go. Where it has been released overseas it's raking in big bucks at a much faster pace than Die Another Day. The UK is probably the most widely known success story. CR took out DAD's entire run in 2 weeks. Russia has already grossed 3x Die Another Day's amount. As of.. maybe 2 days ago it was only about 100 million shy of DAD and it's going to get another 40 million or so out of the U.S. to put it on about par (not adjusting for inflation) with Die Another Day in the U.S. TLDR; CR will lose (adjusted) to DAD in the United States, but overseas CR should do better.

And you can't look at it with from the angle of having an "extra seven days of business". Right now it's in its 21st day of release and it's only about 3.5 million behind Die Another Day (in the U.S.), but it's dailies are stronger.

[dinovelvet]

I'm curious as to how anyone can predict this film will gross more than $500 million worldwide. I'm skeptical that it can hit $400 million worldwide.

With regards to being "on track" to surpass "Die Another Day" in the US, for instance. DAD opened Nov 24, and by this time it had grossed $120. Right now, CR is also at about $120, with an extra seven days of business.

DAD saw a faster dropoff in business than CR. In its second weekend, DAD dropped 34%, but CR only dropped 24%. Then in its third weekend, DAD dropped 58%, and CR only dropped 50%, so obviously DAD got off to a better start, but CR is outpacing it in the long run, enough to eventually catch up. DAD didn't hit $160 until February, so there's a long way to go yet; with its good word of mouth, CR will play comfortably through Christmas and New Year.

[JackWade]

Casino Royale made $19.3 million in it's third week, compared to Die Another Day, which made $16.7 million.

CR is a better film, undoubtedly, will have longer legs than DAD. I'm fairly confident CR will catch up rather quickly with DAD's US numbers if it can keep this pace up.

I can't wait to see the final worldwide totals. CR should make the top 35 highest grossing films of all-time ($575 million would place it 34th). Ought to make those CnB morons go away for awhile.

Edited by JackWade, 09 December 2006 - 03:13 AM.

[Donovan]

I've read the replies to my post and I'm still not convinced "Casino Royale" will be able to hit the $500 million gross mark worldwide. In fact, I'd bet against it.

So I propose a bet that won't kill anyone's bank account. For one thing, I need to acquire the new boxed sets of James Bond DVDs. I believe there's four of them. I'll put up a complete set of the new James Bond DVDs in exchange for same. This can be me vs. only one person for a complete set or me vs. as many as four different people, each of whom would need to provide one of the boxed sets. If I lose, and four people win, I provide them each with one boxed set of their choosing.

I think that we need to set a time. It seemed like "Die Another Day" bottomed out June 1. That would suit me and it even gives CR an extra week. Certain things could happen that would give CR a bit of a boost, like award nominations (which I don't think it will get). So, again, there's a chance you could win. I very well could be wrong, but what the heck. Let's gamble.

Again, if you're in, reply here and say how many DVD boxed sets you're good for. Just to make sure we're not confused, it's only the first replies that add up to all 20 films. Does that make sense? One guy who immediately replies and says four and that will do it. Eight guys who say four and it's only the first one. Two guys who say two boxed sets each will do it. In other words, I'm only putting up one set of the DVDs. Whatever any individual puts up will be what they win...if they win.

P.S. We'll need to make sure we have region codes set. I'm USA, Region 1, NTSC.

[K1Bond007]

Oh man.. I think you should seriously reconsider here Donovan. It's only about 160 million away.

[dinovelvet]

Oh man..

Quite! Easy free DVD box sets for those who want them...

[HildebrandRarity]

In fact, I'd bet against it.

So I propose a bet

what the heck. Let's gamble.

Where were you when I was proposing $1000 bets a month BEFORE the movie came out?

If you're so bold, why didnt you ante up BEFORE the product was out in the market.

I doesnt take much balls to bet on a race once the horses are 2/3rds of the way to the post. Betting does not work that way.

[HildebrandRarity]

Casino Royale - Box Office Details

_{CBn rounds up all the latest details}

*Updated on 7 December 2006.

The country list is incomplete. Canada is not shown. Canada is a bigger territory for Bond than all but about 10 countries. Bigger than Australia and most of the European countries outside the Big 4 including, traditionally, the 3 Scandanavian countries.

Here:

http://www.tribute.c.../box_office.htm


The above link shows the "true" US Domestic/North American box office for the Weekend ended Dec 1-3.

Within the $115,800,000 million that most people attribute to "US Domestic" for Casino Royale is about $13,000,000 from Canada (the CAD$ figure of $14,588,000 shown in the link, adjusted fpr a 1.13 currency cross rate).

That means that about 11.2 percent of the "US Domestic" came from Canada.


NOTE ALSO: Canada has Casino Royale "opening" WELL ABOVE Happy Feet as well as grossing more than DOUBLE the amount than Happy Feet so far after 3 weekends.


The above means that Happy Feet is even more a uniquely American phenomenon (if you choose to use that term) becasue the percentage difference between HF and CR would be even greater if you were to 'net out' the Canadian numbers from "US Domestic"

Interesting I think.

Edited by HildebrandRarity, 09 December 2006 - 01:58 PM.

[JackWade]

Hildebrand... to the best of my knowledge, Canadian box office has always been included in the US/Domestic numbers.

[HildebrandRarity]

Hildebrand... to the best of my knowledge, Canadian box office has always been included in the US/Domestic numbers.

I know.

All i'm saying is that "Canada" is NOT listed in the thread topic's list of countries.

It SHOULD/OUGHT to be given that Canada's Casino Royale contribution is almost as much as Denmark, Sweden and Norway COMBINED (C.O.M.B.I.N.E.D.). (If Mads wasnt in this movie hyping it back home, Scandaniavian totals would be considerably less than Canadian totals for this movie)

I mean, traditionally and historically, Canada spends more money on James Bond movies that almost every other country on the planet save for the US, UK, Germany, France and perhaps Japan. In CR's case, Japan will spend less than Canada where as Italy might (*might*) spend more because of the two Italian actors in this movie.

One would think that would be good enough to have Canada listed, don't you think?

LOL

;-)

Edited by HildebrandRarity, 09 December 2006 - 07:42 PM.

[Cody]

Friday -

1 APOCALYPTO $4,950,000
2 THE HOLIDAY $4,400,000
3 HAPPY FEET $3,075,000
4 BLOOD DIAMOND $2,675,000
5 CASINO ROYALE $2,635,000

[Qwerty]

Friday -

1 APOCALYPTO $4,950,000
2 THE HOLIDAY $4,400,000
3 HAPPY FEET $3,075,000
4 BLOOD DIAMOND $2,675,000
5 CASINO ROYALE $2,635,000

Well, that happens...

[JackWade]

Friday -

1 APOCALYPTO $4,950,000
2 THE HOLIDAY $4,400,000
3 HAPPY FEET $3,075,000
4 BLOOD DIAMOND $2,675,000
5 CASINO ROYALE $2,635,000

Well, that happens...

To be expected. Still better numbers than DAD posted at this time during its release.

[Qwerty]

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Friday Estimates Knock Casino Royale & Happy Feet From Top Two

_{New competition from Apocalypto}

[Blofeld's Cat]

Friday -

1 APOCALYPTO $4,950,000

Gotta see this one when it comes out here in Oz.