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[Monsieur B]

Glad there's no hostility then. I wasn't sure if your comment held sacrasm of a volatile sort or not. But there was sarcasm nonetheless, that I was sure of.

Sorry, if I came off as a bit harsh though.

[Felix_Leiter]

i think the main title visuals will help this song a lot!

[Sn007py]

HOLY THIS IS ING GREAT ING SONG!!!!!!1#$@#%$

Keep listning to it again and again and again. IT GROWS ON YOU FAST!!!!!! Opening bars ARE ROCKING! CHORUS IS ROCKING!!!! IT is better than Live and LEt Die!

BIG thanks to Breakfast At Tiffany who have the song for us

[Diabolik]

I know from being on CBn for a while that Bond fans have very diverse and distinct opinions, but I can't see anyone hating it. It's not the "very best" but far from worst. I'd put it in the top 10.

After the Modonna fiasco, the Sheryl Crow mediocrity, and so many other uninspired and formula title songs from the last few years (although I personally liked TWINE), it's refreshing to have a strong, bold song. And I like the title and lyrics (much better than trying to make the words "Casino Royale" into the song).

And I'm no young kid (45 yrs. old), nor a fan of most of the "new popular music" out there, but this sounds very contemporary and new, but still with the hint of the classic orchestral Bond sound (drawing comparisons to LALD).

Anyway, I'm relieved! Just like when I saw the new trailer. All signs point to CR being one solid Bond thriller!

Edited by Diabolik, 21 September 2006 - 08:58 PM.

[The Number]

That was not what I was expecting. But somehow I keep listening to it and find myself really liking it. I thought the orchestrations would have been more powerful but this song does rock. Lyrics are pretty basic but they get at the character. I'm sure I'll be listening the hell out of this for awhile. The title sequence will surely be interesting for this. This does rank as one of the better ones. It's not "Live & Let Die" but it's close.

[Sn007py]

It's not "Live & Let Die" but it's close.

IT IS WAAAY BETTER. It is thumping and crunching HARD. Not Pretentious poser rock. Thanks to CC it is meaningful music and a harder rock than diamonds!

[killkenny kid]

I'm still trying to may up my mind on this one.

[K1Bond007]

Wow, the story on the main page. Nice job CBn. Way to be professional. Like it or not.

Ah get over yourself, we're all fans here.

You're not. You said something bad about something Bond related. You bad fan.

That wasn't the point. You would think a website reporting news regardless would try and keep a neutral point of view and some sort of journalistic integrity instead of resorting to insults. I have nothing against reviews on the frontpage, but if that's what you're doing then you should label it as such instead of passing it off as news. Good reporting though, I guess I know what to expect from CBn in the future.

Whatever.

[The Number]

You know...after a couple more listens and really trying to picture it on the big screen as a Bond Theme...this effin ROCKS!!! I was a little stunned earlier but this so belongs as one of the best ones. Damn, I can't stop listening to it now.

[00-FAN008]

I really like this song. Chris Cornell has done some much better stuff before, sure, but I love the sound. Besides, I would have much rather heard a hard-rock rendition for Casino Royale than some stupid pop song in the vein of Madonna's Die Another Day or that one from Everything or Nothing. Personally, I think the Bond music is taking a turn for the better -- even if, at this point, this song may not seem suitable for a James Bond movie.

Either way, Chris Cornell is an incredible musician and I fully support Casino Royale.

[BTW I think the CBn cover story is bogus.]

[K1Bond007]

I know from being on CBn for a while that Bond fans have very diverse and distinct opinions, but I can't see anyone hating it. It's not the "very best" but far from worst. I'd put it in the top 10.

After the Modonna fiasco, the Sheryl Crow mediocrity, and so many other uninspired and formula title songs from the last few years (although I personally liked TWINE), it's refreshing to have a strong, bold song. And I like the title and lyrics (much better than trying to make the words "Casino Royale" into the song).

And I'm no young kid (45 yrs. old), nor a fan of most of the "new popular music" out there, but this sounds very contemporary and new, but still with the hint of the classic orchestral Bond sound (drawing comparisons to LALD).

Anyway, I'm relieved! Just like when I saw the new trailer. All signs point to CR being one solid Bond thriller!

People have different tastes so a lot of people were bound to not like it, but the problem I believe really comes from the fact that it is so untraditional for a Bond theme. But it is untraditional in the same way that Live and Let Die and a couple others such as A View to a Kill etc were untraditional for their time. It doesn't make it bad. 10 years from now, I can picture people being more accepting of it as a "Bond theme" - as in .. in the style - I guess. You follow?

I'm wondering if they're going to pull a From Russia with Love maybe. I can see an instrumental version being used for the credits with this version at the end. Or not. I can picture it for sure with a good title sequence. The opening I can totally picture with the film.

[Cody]

I'm wondering if they're going to pull a From Russia with Love maybe. I can see an instrumental version being used for the credits with this version at the end. Or not. I can picture it for sure with a good title sequence. The opening I can totally picture with the film.

I'm thinking it'll play during both the main titles and the end credits.

(Edited the redundant during.)

Edited by Cody, 21 September 2006 - 09:18 PM.

[Johnboy007]

I'm afraid I have to agree with K1Bond007 on this. It is a perfectly fine front-page member/moderator review, but it is almost Fox News Channel-esque in terms of news neutrality.

[Loomis]

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[quote name='Loomis' post='610770' date='21 September 2006 - 13:42']
Sorry (although I don't know why I'm apologising), but my final verdict is this: "You Know My Name" is, by a considerable distance, the worst James Bond song ever. Ever. So, yes, that includes that FYEO poolside disco number that goes "Push it! Push it good!" or whatever, and even "Dirty Love".

Yes, there are a couple of good things about it (MTM mentioned the Ian Brown-style trumpets, and I concur), but, overall, it's horrible. It sounds like a speeded-up version of Spinal Tap's "Rock & Roll Creation" meeting Arnold's usual hamfisted treatment of The James Bond Theme, with hilariously crap lyrics and vocals that sound as though they were recorded while being beaten up by Daniel Craig in a "bathroom". It's hideous and inappropriate beyond belief.

Now, I still think CASINO ROYALE will be a good film, but, with all due respect to anyone who may be due any, I do believe they dropped the ball on the song. Yes, considerably.
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I respect your opinion, Loomis. But worse than the FYEO poolside disco number or "Dirty Love"? You

[Dunph]

Wow, the story on the main page. Nice job CBn. Way to be professional. Like it or not.

Ah get over yourself, we're all fans here.

You're not. You said something bad about something Bond related. You bad fan.

That wasn't the point. You would think a website reporting news regardless would try and keep a neutral point of view and some sort of journalistic integrity instead of resorting to insults. I have nothing against reviews on the frontpage, but if that's what you're doing then you should label it as such instead of passing it off as news. Good reporting though, I guess I know what to expect from CBn in the future.

Whatever.

We're a fan site. In a fan site I actually like to see some fan opinion rather than a twatty little wiki featuring pages upon pages of bland guff, so I approach my news articles with that in my mind foremost. We're not some news institution bound by some code to give impartial, beige facts. I was motivated by my absolute horror at this laughably poor plastic rock Bond theme, I sat down to write the article. My article was biased. Whoops. At least I have some passion about what I write, give me that.

Lighten up, make up your own mind and stop taking a holier-than-thou approach to everything. Or are you standing in for Darren today?

[Navy007Fan]

I finally heard the whole song, and, for the moment, I like it. I'll reserve final judgement until I hear it in context with the rest of the film. But for now, I'd put it on my iPod.

[mkkbb]

Where can I hear this? Obviously you can't post links, but give a hint where to find it please!!

On a similar note, when I first heard GoldenEye I found it bland and boring, but soon couldn't get it out of my head. I'm hoping maybe this will be the same.

This thread is a real good read too, even without hearing the song.

[iexpectu2die]

Wow, the story on the main page. Nice job CBn. Way to be professional. Like it or not.

Ah get over yourself, we're all fans here.

You're not. You said something bad about something Bond related. You bad fan.

That wasn't the point. You would think a website reporting news regardless would try and keep a neutral point of view and some sort of journalistic integrity instead of resorting to insults. I have nothing against reviews on the frontpage, but if that's what you're doing then you should label it as such instead of passing it off as news. Good reporting though, I guess I know what to expect from CBn in the future.

Whatever.

We're a fan site. In a fan site I actually like to see some fan opinion rather than a twatty little wiki featuring pages upon pages of bland guff, so I approach my news articles with that in my mind foremost. We're not some news institution bound by some code to give impartial, beige facts. I was motivated by my absolute horror at this laughably poor plastic rock Bond theme, I sat down to write the article. My article was biased. Whoops. At least I have some passion about what I write, give me that.

Lighten up, make up your own mind and stop taking a holier-than-thou approach to everything. Or are you standing in for Darren today?

Sure - own opinion and all. But your job (at least in the news section) shouldn't be to sway judgement. If I'd never heard the song and I listened to it after reading your article, I would feel like I shouldn't enjoy it. Call me weak-minded, but I do think the article should have been a little more neutral.

That aside, its nice that you have passion as you say.

[Sn007py]

Where can I hear this? Obviously you can't post links, but give a hint where to find it please!!

Go to Google News and search 'you know my name breakfast tiffany'

[mario007]

Rock is not my thing ... but I love the song. I like the energy and the way they have woven the bond theme in there! I don't understand the overwhelming negetivity ... we need something different after years of bad kock-off's of Goldfinger.

[dinovelvet]

We're a fan site. In a fan site I actually like to see some fan opinion rather than a twatty little wiki featuring pages upon pages of bland guff, so I approach my news articles with that in my mind foremost. We're not some news institution bound by some code to give impartial, beige facts. I was motivated by my absolute horror at this laughably poor plastic rock Bond theme, I sat down to write the article. My article was biased. Whoops. At least I have some passion about what I write, give me that.

Lighten up, make up your own mind and stop taking a holier-than-thou approach to everything. Or are you standing in for Darren today?

Nobody's questioning your passion, fandom, or your opinion on the song. Or at least I'm not. Its a song, and like every song ever sung, not everyone was going to like it. IMHO the editorial just lacks class. I've always seen CBN as the mature, reasonable place on the net for Bond discussion, compared to the horrors of other Bond boards, where "suck" and "gay" are the most sophisticated critiques, but upon reading the news article which features phrases like "wet " and "fetid turd", the site just dropped to the embarrassing level of AJB, or God help us, imdb level discussion.

Edit - Funny (and a bit hypocritical) how the F word for breaking wind is censored in this forum, yet is allowed to appear in the leading news article on the front page?

[Dunph]

Ah well, never mind.

[richyawyingtmv]

I just find it hypocritical that the moderators lectured everyone about not listening/downloading/uploading the song, and closed threads about it. Then as soon as its on other big sites, they all listen to it and a pretty pathetic and extremely biased 'article' is posted on the front page.

It's bothered me, to be honest.

But yes. I'd rather not get in trouble with mods - they were doing their job.

But that article on the main page is completely out of order. It's a matter of opinion.

I thought this site was supposed to offer an unbiased and open source of Bond news?

Now I know why I stick to mi6.co.uk for any 007 news.

Edited by richyawyingtmv, 21 September 2006 - 09:51 PM.

[mrweasley]

Just listen to it. It would fit to movies like "Cruel Intentions" but as a theme for a Bond movie Ithink it

[mkkbb]

On first listen (only heard it once so far) the opening is great, then the verse starts and I was a little taken back, wasn't keen on his voice. Seemed quite bland...

Then I thought the chorus picked it up, but still nothign special. When the second verse started and Arnold's score comes in it really starts. Maybe a decent version would do it more justice.

Now the song is finished I am still humming the chorus. Yes it does seem like a Spiderman song (as someone wonderfully put it), but I think it is a bold step in the right direction. And I'm sure after some more listens it will start to take shape as a Bond song. I'd definately wait on hearing a cleaner better version that the leaked one though.

[Publius]

Still, for the moment, I'm decidedly less than ecstatic about it.

Weren't you initially just okay with it, only to later say you thought it would grow on you to the point you loved it? I mean, it's only been like a day.

And worst lyrics? I don't know how you could think that. Just a sample of, in my very humble opinion, the worst lyrics to almost any song ever:

A View To A Kill

Choice for you is the view to a kill between the shades assassination standing still
First crystal tears fall of snowflakes on your body
First time in years to drench your skin with lovers rosy stain
A chance to find a phoenix for the flame a chance to die but can we

GoldenEye

Goldeneye not lace or leather
Golden chains take him to the spot
Goldeneye I'll show him forever
It'll take forever to see what I've got

Die Another Day

I'm gonna wake up, yes and no
I'm gonna kiss some part of
I'm gonna keep this secret
I'm gonna close my body now


I simply don't have enough WTFs to go around for those three verses alone.

Edited by Publius, 21 September 2006 - 10:02 PM.

[Jericho_One]

Well....
Not bad, and certainly not worse than Madonna's "Die another Day".
It's growing on me.
Sure, it's not what you'd expect to hear in a Bond movie and my first reaction waas one of strangeness, but this is actually cool.
Really curious to check how it will fit with the opening credits.
Now, like it or not, can it be a helping hand in rejuvenating Bond?
Yes...Considerably.

[Cody]

Rock is not my thing ... but I love the song. I like the energy and the way they have woven the bond theme in there! I don't understand the overwhelming negetivity ... we need something different after years of bad kock-off's of Goldfinger.

Look at the poll results, I wouldn't say the reaction is overwhelmingly negative.

[Blonde Bond]

I've listened it about 100 times today, so it's fair to say,that I'm liking it more and more. In case you wondering; No. It didn't take me that many replays to start liking this song. It's because I started to like the song on my 3rd listening. It's been on auto replay ever since

Might be more forgettable than most of the bond songs, but every time I listen to it I start tapping my foot. And from what I've heard about the movie, this kind of garage rock song fits perfectly with the gritty atmosphere of CR. I can imagine the transition from the gunbarrel to main title and to this song.

[dinovelvet]

Rock is not my thing ... but I love the song. I like the energy and the way they have woven the bond theme in there! I don't understand the overwhelming negetivity ... we need something different after years of bad kock-off's of Goldfinger.

Look at the poll results, I wouldn't say the reaction is overwhelmingly negative.

Yes, but as is typical with these things, those who are negative tend to be far more vocal about it