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#571 Harmsway

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:18 AM

I can't agree. I don't think that "007" has a good ring to it whether associated with Bond or not.

Fair enough.

Imagine lining up the DVDs and seeing all of the really cool titles such as From Russia With Love, Live and Let Die, Thunderball, Diamonds Are Forever, Casino Royale, etc., and then seeing the plain, boring 007 next to them.

Honestly, that doesn't strike me as all that bad. DR. NO, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, CASINO ROYALE, OO7... Sure. I can live with that. I'll take it over TOMORROW NEVER DIES and DIE ANOTHER DAY.

#572 Harmsway

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:27 AM

But it might be a case of right idea, wrong film. If any Bond film were to be called 007, or JAMES BOND, it should have been Casino Royale, or Dr.No.

Perhaps. OO7 would have made for a kick-[censored] title for the first Bond film ever. Not that DR. NO isn't an awesome title, though.

But there is a sense in which it fits in the second installment, just like THE DARK KNIGHT fits for that. If Bond was becoming Bond in CASINO ROYALE... he's now arrived in BOND 22, and therefore the film's title can appropriately refer to him.

Nah, Craig wanted to throw us off. Just like his story with "Bond wearing no tuxedo" in CR.

Entirely possible, but given the description of the dialogue, that doesn't quite seem like what he's doing. And given the fact that he's done some things in other interviews that would back up the title being OO7... well it gives some food for thought.

#573 triviachamp

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:35 AM

How would Bond 23 be titled then - "James Bond"?


They should copy old 30/40s film series titles:

Think Twice 007
Calling 007
Song of 007
Meet 007

Honestly this sounds rather bland? Especially with John Rambo/Dark Knight etc...

And how will the Credits work?

Albert R. Broccoli's
EON Productions Ltd.
presents

Daniel Craig
as
Ian Fleming's
James Bond
007

in

007

???? :D :P

#574 Qwerty

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:38 AM

Kind of boring, if true.

#575 Harmsway

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:40 AM

It would probably read either as:

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S
EON PRODUCTIONS
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as
IAN FLEMING'S

O O 7

or

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S
EON PRODUCTIONS
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as
IAN FLEMING'S
JAMES BOND

O O 7



#576 K1Bond007

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:56 AM

007 in New York? It is a Fleming title after all...


I think it may be safe to say that New York is not a prominent location, thus it won't be the title. If NY was a main shooting ground for Bond 22 I think we would have heard a rumor by now. Changing it to 007 in Panama or something similar would be pretty dumb. It's already a bad title. It's acceptable to most only because it's a Fleming title. If it wasn't, I can't imagine it getting half the support it may have now. (that said, over the years I've heard some really bad suggestions for titles of Bond films - so maybe I'm wrong)

#577 triviachamp

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:10 AM

If true I suspect the tagline to be something like "You Know His Name and now You'll know his number."

Oh the title song should be "You know my Number." :D

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:20 AM

I agree it would be rather plain against a title such as 'The Property of a Lady' or similar, but I could live with it. The Craig films are shaking up the system indeed.

007 would be quite good actually, he earned his Bond theme at the end of Casino Royale. He has arrived. It would be a good chance for David Arnold to use John Barry's 007 theme if this became true. :D

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:17 AM

007 in New York? It is a Fleming title after all...


I think it may be safe to say that New York is not a prominent location, thus it won't be the title. If NY was a main shooting ground for Bond 22 I think we would have heard a rumor by now. Changing it to 007 in Panama or something similar would be pretty dumb. It's already a bad title. It's acceptable to most only because it's a Fleming title. If it wasn't, I can't imagine it getting half the support it may have now. (that said, over the years I've heard some really bad suggestions for titles of Bond films - so maybe I'm wrong)


I know. That was a joke.

#580 MkB

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:22 AM

007 in New York? It is a Fleming title after all...


I think it may be safe to say that New York is not a prominent location, thus it won't be the title. If NY was a main shooting ground for Bond 22 I think we would have heard a rumor by now. Changing it to 007 in Panama or something similar would be pretty dumb.


Or "The 007 of Panama" :D

#581 Zorin Industries

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:32 AM

You know...I could live with it.


It's a bit like calling the next Superman film THE MAN OF STEEL or the new Batman effort THE DARK KNIGHT....it would never work....oh, hold on a sec.....

UNIVERSAL EXPORTS.......?

I too can live with "007"...I'd be surprised though...

#582 marktmurphy

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:39 AM

If I wanted to make up a ludicrous rumour about the next Bond film and have it featured in mass-media all over the world by next weekend, I could. Very easily.


Yup- I've done it myself :D Not on purpose, mind, but it was in papers and everything.

Still, doesn't necessarily mean he didn't see what he claims, but...

Arkichef at MI6 isn't a nutter, though. He's a grounded, established poster. And he claims to have to seen the exact same exchange.


And yet; he's watching daytime TV. Make up your own minds.. :D

Still, doesn't necessarily mean he didn't see what he claims, but...

Arkichef at MI6 isn't a nutter, though. He's a grounded, established poster. And he claims to have to seen the exact same exchange.

Good.

All we need now is to get the bottom of this Andy Kaufman thing. :P


Andy Kaufman works in the same Portugese cafe as Elvis.


Tsk. Silly man. Elvis works down the chip shop. Just ask Kirsty Macoll.

#583 blueman

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:51 AM

It's a break with tradition. Good or bad, you make the call. As titles go, naming a movie after the lead character is never a bad idea IMO.

#584 MarcAngeDraco

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 11:33 AM

Personally, I would be rather disappointed with a bland title like '007'.

Although I suppose they could come up with many things that would be worse...

#585 doubler83

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 12:30 PM

I think this was just a way of Craig getting out of the question.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 01:31 PM

I usually DON'T like to enter into conversations about movie or book titles because they are typically close to the screenwriter / author's heart - although sometimes the producers / publishers actually come up with the names. But in this case - Haggis is already on record as saying he had NOT provided a title. So that said - I don't like the idea of the film being titled 007. But I DO like the idea of having the film titled after the villian's last name - what ever that is. And yes - I realize it has been done before.

Edited by Ace Roberts, 13 December 2007 - 01:55 PM.


#587 Cody

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 02:57 PM

Wasn't there another interview a while back where Haggis said he did bring up a title?

#588 Binyamin

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:30 PM

ELLIPSIS was used as a number in Casino Royale.

And couldn't the new organization be called this, along the same lines as SPECTRE or SMERSH?

Edited by Binyamin, 13 December 2007 - 03:32 PM.


#589 Shrublands

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:43 PM

ELLIPSIS was used as a number in Casino Royale.

And couldn't the new organization be called this, along the same lines as SPECTRE or SMERSH?


No. That would be ridiculous.

#590 Binyamin

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:48 PM

So is "Octopussy" or "Thunderball."

I'm just saying. :D

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:56 PM

So is "Octopussy" or "Thunderball."

I'm just saying. :D


Thuderball in particular is a fantastic title.

Ellisess has been mentioned as a name for the evil organization before, it turning out to be so but coincidently it being the security code at Miami Airport in the previous film is just plain ridiculous.

Plus, an organization that strikes terror into the world being names after a few dots intended to signify speech tailing off is not very effective.

#592 Binyamin

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 04:05 PM

No, you're right of course Shrublands. Not the most imaginative. But it fits the clues: It's not like any Fleming title, and it's been used as a number. I'm just saying, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a working title.

Edited by Binyamin, 13 December 2007 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2007 - 04:10 PM

I haven't read through all the posts in this topic but wasn't the title 'Risico' being thrown around a lot a while back on the internet. It is one of Fleming's books and it's one of two that hasn't been used in a film (I think there is only 2 that haven't been used).

#594 Binyamin

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 04:13 PM

I haven't read through all the posts in this topic but wasn't the title 'Risico' being thrown around a lot a while back on the internet. It is one of Fleming's books and it's one of two that hasn't been used in a film (I think there is only 2 that haven't been used).


Well it was never a book, it was a short story.

And yes, it's been thrown around, but this particular thread is about a rumor that the title has something to do with a number, which Risico doesn't. Except for the large number of people who can't pronounce it...

Edited by Binyamin, 13 December 2007 - 04:14 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2007 - 04:19 PM

Oh right, I was just having a peek at the title and some posts after it and thought it was just about rumours for a title in general.

Ellipses is the only number that really springs to mind. Of course, maybe the film could be called 007 as it would be Craig's first outing as possibly a much more suave Bond and the character we know as Bond. No longer hard-edged and learning his trade.

Edited by Licence_007, 13 December 2007 - 04:21 PM.


#596 Marketto007

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 04:23 PM

Pretty odd title I must say.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 04:26 PM

Think about it...

"Daniel Craig as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in 007"

Um... :D

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 04:56 PM

Think about it...

"Daniel Craig as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in 007"

Um... :D


Well...that is a fair point. :P

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 05:00 PM

Plus, an organization that strikes terror into the world being names after a few dots intended to signify speech tailing off is not very effective.


Actually, "Ellipsis" wouldn't be a bad name for a Bond film, or for the group he's battling. "Ellipsis" also implies something that's there but not there, something that's been left out, perhaps a group (of criminals, maybe?) marginalized and pushed out of the middle of things. Ellipses are usually used to leave out stuff that the author ("the man in charge") deems unimportant.

I've heard worse.

Edited by Wade, 13 December 2007 - 05:01 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2007 - 05:03 PM

Actually, "Ellipsis" wouldn't be a bad name for a Bond film, or for the group he's battling. "Ellipsis" also implies something that's there but not there, something that's been left out, perhaps a group (of criminals, maybe?) marginalized and pushed out of the middle of things. Ellipses are usually used to leave out stuff that the author ("the man in charge") deems unimportant.

I've heard worse.


That's actually not a half bad explanation for it. Still, when compared to other Bond titles, it would seem a bit...well you know, not exactly the most attractive title.