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#601 The Dove

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 05:06 PM

After my initial excitement yesterday and getting WAY too far ahead of myself, I'm gonna sit back and take this rumored "007" title with a HUGE grain of salt.. I'm more inclined now to believe that the actual title will be more than just "007".. In any case, I'm getting impatient!! Hurry up EON and announce the damn title already!! :D

#602 stamper

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:02 PM

It won't be ELLIPSIS, you can't make a 007 out of it.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:08 PM

I'm getting impatient!! Hurry up EON and announce the damn title already!! :P


Amen to that! :D

#604 K1Bond007

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:26 PM

You know...I could live with it.


It's a bit like calling the next Superman film THE MAN OF STEEL or the new Batman effort THE DARK KNIGHT....it would never work....oh, hold on a sec.....


I disagree with that. I think it'd be more akin to calling the sequel to Batman Begins: "Batman". Bruce Wayne is Batman. James Bond is 007. In your example, it'd have to be one of Bond's nicknames for it to fall in line. Kiss-Kiss Bang-Bang for instance (which has already been used recently - if it hadn't I would actually support it).

I'll be shocked if it's 007.

#605 Blonde Bond

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:29 PM

Yep, ELLIPSIS would be too far fetched.

After all, it did feature as airport security code in the last film :D I doubt that the organization behind White would have the same thing as their name.

I'm still going to be okay, if they choose to use either 007 or Agent 007/ James Bond 007 as title.

#606 Harmsway

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:48 PM

Think about it...

"Daniel Craig as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in 007"

Um... :D


To quote myself:

It would probably read either as:

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S
EON PRODUCTIONS
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as
IAN FLEMING'S

O O 7

or

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S
EON PRODUCTIONS
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as
IAN FLEMING'S
JAMES BOND

O O 7



I disagree with that. I think it'd be more akin to calling the sequel to Batman Begins: "Batman".

There was a lot of talk of that, actually.

#607 DamnCoffee

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:57 PM

I'm actually warming to that idea :D.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:01 PM

Think about it...

"Daniel Craig as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in 007"

Um... :D


To quote myself:

It would probably read either as:

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S
EON PRODUCTIONS
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as
IAN FLEMING'S

O O 7

or

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S
EON PRODUCTIONS
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as
IAN FLEMING'S
JAMES BOND

O O 7




Well, I suppose if done like that it could work.

#609 Binyamin

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:08 PM

No, no no no, nooooo.

Look, if they call the movie "007" or "James Bond 007" they have reached the bottom of the barrel for originality. If it was a kids cartoon they were making... maybe. But for a Daniel Craig film? Come on.

And going back to "Ellipsis"...it could easily be that the airport code in CR was set by an organization insider. Wouldn't high security codes usually just be random numbers? Wouldn't it be very Spectre-like to use that code as a calling card?

I'm not really trying to push Ellipsis as a title. It's just that even that idea would be better than calling the 22nd 007 film.... "007." :D

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:13 PM

No, no no no, nooooo.

Look, if they call the movie "007" or "James Bond 007" they have reached the bottom of the barrel for originality. If it was a kids cartoon they were making... maybe. But for a Daniel Craig film? Come on.

And going back to "Ellipsis"...it could easily be that the airport code in CR was set by an organization insider. Wouldn't high security codes usually just be random numbers? Wouldn't it be very Spectre-like to use that code as a calling card?

I'm not really trying to push Ellipsis as a title. It's just that even that idea would be better than calling the 22nd 007 film.... "007." :D


Completely agreed. I'm not a fan at all of calling Bond 22 "Ellipsis", but even that is a far superior title to simply calling the next film "007"

#611 Mr. Somerset

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:28 PM

The idea of calling the film 007, and I don't know who came up with this rumour anyway, to put it bluntly...is just not going to happen. If that were the case, then Broccoli would probably be spinning in his grave. It is just a sarcastic joke at the expence of the lack of originality for film titles these days. Certainly a joke I find to be amusing, but not to be taken seriously.
I must admit it is rather ridiculous bordering on pathetic to read the optimism on these threads of such a title.....even though it is funny.

#612 HH007

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:36 PM

I still like Property of a Lady.

#613 Harmsway

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:41 PM

The idea of calling the film 007, and I don't know who came up with this rumour anyway, to put it bluntly...is just not going to happen.

The rumor came from an interview with Craig that pointed in the direction of this title. Craig may have been joking, but he indicated in another interview that the title would be something we wouldn't expect. The possibility that the title could be "OO7" seems like something we should at least consider.

I must admit it is rather ridiculous bordering on pathetic to read the optimism on these threads of such a title.....even though it is funny.

Because no-one can genuinely like the title? Let's not be so condescending.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:46 PM

Has anyone considered that maybe what Craig was talking about is the fact that it's still only called Bond 22 (that's a number)?

According to Haggis, he never gave it a name (link).

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:50 PM

Has anyone considered that maybe what Craig was talking about is the fact that it's still only called Bond 22 (that's a number)?

In the context of the interview (as it has been recounted to me) that explanation doesn't make sense.

#616 Red Barchetta

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:18 PM

I think Daniel is taking us for a ride. :D

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:34 PM

No, no no no, nooooo.

Look, if they call the movie "007" or "James Bond 007" they have reached the bottom of the barrel for originality. If it was a kids cartoon they were making... maybe. But for a Daniel Craig film? Come on.

I'm not really trying to push Ellipsis as a title. It's just that even that idea would be better than calling the 22nd 007 film.... "007." :D


It's still a better title than Risico. Or the title mooted for DAD on this forum by one member: 'The Wizard of Ice'. (*Shudder*)

#618 blueman

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:42 PM

Craig was specific: the number refers to Bond's 00 status. "007" makes the most sense from what he said, obviously, AND would indeed be totally unexpected.

Was Craig joking? Doesn't read that way to me, but he has history so who knows.

Taking this at face-value (and until a press release says something else I see no reason not to, various opinions on it aside), Craig talked around the title then backed up from his comments cuz he'd gone too far. Sometimes, the simplest explanation is the correct one. :P Guess we'll see. But other explanations being given for Craig's comments sound far less likely IMO, even straw-graspy to buttress a specific POV IMHO (caveat: I like the idea of "007" as a Bond title for the next film, so I'll cop to bias, yeah :D ).

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:45 PM

I do love the ring of DEVIL MAY CARE


Me too. I had a dream a couple of months back that Judi Dench let slip that it was the title for Bond 22!

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:47 PM

I do love the ring of DEVIL MAY CARE


Me too. I had a dream a couple of months back that Judi Dench let slip that it was the title for Bond 22!


I like that title as well. I doubt that it would be the title for Bond 22, though, because the book has not even been released, and having the book and movie named the same thing might create some confusion in the general public. Plus, and this is probably very unlikely, the novel could end up being so good that EON decides to adapt it for a future Bond film.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 10:53 PM

When I was ten years old, I argued adamantly that there existed a James Bond film with the title Shaken, Not Stirred. I was sure of it. When I was even younger than that, I believed that James Bond had been a 1980's TV show, not a series of films.

Ellipsis would definitely work as a title. I don't think it will be used, but there's really no reason they couldn't use it. Any "cool" word would work as a Bond title.

I still say Property of a Lady will never be used, because whatever we Fleming fans may think, it doesn't bespeak action and espionage. Quantum of Solace, which I personally dislike, stands a much better chance of being used.

Maybe Death to Spies! I have a special fondness for titles with exclamation marks and question marks. I'd love a title in the form of a hypothetical line spoken by the villain. For example, But Not Clever Enough or We Terrorists Do Not Negotiate or simply The Last We'll See of Mr Bond. A bit self-conscious, perhaps, but surely not as self-conscious as the last half of DAD.

I think the best titles have been the silly one-word ones like Goldfinger and Thunderball (the best James Bond title by a mile). I think they should come up with another one of those, ideally one with three syllables and two morphemes: Motherbomb, Atomburn, Bugzapper, etc. Obviously, I'm no good at those, but I'm not a high-paid producer.

Personally, I've always wanted a Bond title with the word "bull" in it. I don't know why.

The last several original titles have been phrases, so it's probably going to be another one of those. It may incorporate the revenge theme, but I hope not in an obvious way, like Return of the Spy or Death Past Due or something. I also hope it isn't a punnish twist on some idiom, like so many of the continuation novels and the action genre in general.

There's always the off chance that they'll be really adventurous and blow our minds. Or they could just go with Casino Royale Part II: Double or Nothing.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 11:33 PM

Maybe the title will be .....


ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S
EON PRODUCTIONS
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as
IAN FLEMING'S
JAMES BOND 007
in

"I AM NOT A NUMBER"



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Posted 13 December 2007 - 11:40 PM

With Haggis recently stating the film is still just known as Bond 22, I think Craig may have been playing coy with the number reference, knowing all too well it's still just called Bond 22.

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Posted 13 December 2007 - 11:49 PM

With Haggis recently stating the film is still just known as Bond 22, I think Craig may have been playing coy with the number reference, knowing all too well it's still just called Bond 22.

Maybe. But the blurb about the interview doesn't make it sound that way IMO.

#625 Binyamin

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 12:06 AM

How is it that this interview is nowhere on the Internet?

Seriously. Nobody has TiVo? I will personally PayPal $7.00 USD to anybody who can show us the actual video clip. Anybody want to chip in? :D

Edited by Binyamin, 14 December 2007 - 12:09 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2007 - 12:10 AM

I think Daniel is taking us for a ride. :D


Could be (and hopefully so in this case).

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 12:38 AM

Well we can all tell hopefully that the title is NOT bond 22. Wait let me try again,

The title is NOT bond 22

The title is bond 22 NOT

The title is bond 22 pause not.

thats it, the title is borat 007 :D

#628 kneelbeforezod

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 12:47 AM

Craig was specific: the number refers to Bond's 00 status. "007" makes the most sense from what he said

Maybe the title just has the number 7 or "Seven" in it?

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 01:11 AM

Agreed, Dave. I do really believe that, given the parameters we have already got, a title such as AGENT 007 is preferable, and more likely, than simply 007.

#630 Colossus

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 01:15 AM

When and what time did This Morning air anyone know?