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[jaguar007]

I became a James Bond fan through my mother (I was born in the 60s). She was a big fan of the Sean Connery movies. She lost interest in Bond during the Moore era. She will go see the some of the Bond movies as they come out, but usually wait until video. She saw Munich(she didn't think it was accurate enough) and while she really didn't care that much for the movie, she really liked Daniel Craig. Casino Royale is the first time she has been interested in a Bond movie since the early 70s.

My wife tolerates my Bond obsessivness, but she will never choose to watch a Bond movie. She does really like Connery, OHMSS & TND however. For the first time since I have known her (we have been married for 9 years), she is actually looking forward to seeing the new BOnd movie( she thinks Craig is hot!)

[DaveBond21]

There are definitely more women on here, compared to when I started this thread, which is good to see.

[elvis-the-burgerking]

All my family are fans (well my dad more so)i was raised watching them and as a kid you wanted to be just like that even if you was a girl.

[Sunny_on_SM]

Do you think women like the Bond films or not? Are they just for men, or can a woman be a Bond-fan too?????

I am a woman and I definitely like James Bond films, and also enjoy many other action movies. Yet at the same time I hate many "chick flicks".

[holothane]

Can I second that I loathe chick flicks give me Die Hard, anyday.

[bond_girl_double07]

Can I second that I loathe chick flicks give me Die Hard, anyday.

I third! Lifetime and Oxygen are like some kind of spooky hormonal propaganda, and I have no desire to sit there for hours while my brain slowly melts

[holothane]

I've not heard of these and by the sound haven't missed much, can't wait for CR though, the next six weeks are going to be great with all the merchandise starting to appear now.

[Mamadou]

Can I second that I loathe chick flicks give me Die Hard, anyday.

I third! Lifetime and Oxygen are like some kind of spooky hormonal propaganda, and I have no desire to sit there for hours while my brain slowly melts

Hear, hear! I'll watch all the classic "guy" films: Magnificent Seven, Great Escape, Bullitt (anything with Steve McQueen, in other words, ), anything with Humphrey Bogart, Spartacus, and Bond.

Why do guys get good stuff and we're stuck with saccharine tripe?

[DaveBond21]

I am a guy, and I like some chick flicks. It depends on your definition.


I like these romantic comedies. Basically for just cuddling up on the sofa with some wine:-



The Notebook
Dirty Dancing
Four Weddings & a Funeral
Bridget Jones' Diary
Muriel's Wedding
Notting Hill
Love Actually
My Big Fat Greek Wedding

[Sunny_on_SM]

I am a guy, and I like some chick flicks. It depends on your definition.


I like these romantic comedies. Basically for just cuddling up on the sofa with some wine:-



The Notebook
Dirty Dancing
Four Weddings & a Funeral
Bridget Jones' Diary
Muriel's Wedding
Notting Hill
Love Actually
My Big Fat Greek Wedding

I don't mind some romantic comedies. "Bridget Jones Diary" is one of my favourites, though I could have done away with all the bad language. I hated Love Actually partially because of the bad language which wasn't necessary in a Christmas movie (and I don't find listening to F-word every other word romantic!), and thought that Four Weddings And A Funeral was very boring (to me it was anyway, but I hear many people liked it). I prefer Hugh Grant (you mentioned several movies with him) in movies like "About A Boy" or "Mickey Blue Eyes", and "Bridget Jones Diary". On the whole, I prefer Colin Firth to Hugh Grant any day. When I think of "chick flicks", I think more along the lines of dramas like "Steel Magnolias" or "Fried Green Tomatoes", or some movies they show on Lifetime (as mentioned above). I find some of these chick flick dramas very depressing and sappy. Same goes for those romantic comedies that have no substance to them. What makes James Bond movies special is that you get a great combination of everything in one movie, they are never depressing, have elements of drama, action, comedy, romance and some even have elements of science-fiction.

Edited by Sunny_on_SM, 26 September 2006 - 04:05 PM.

[SecretAgentFan]

From my ABSOLUTELY SUBJECTIVE experience men are more open to Bond films than women. Brosnan was the first Bond that really scored with young women whereas older women preferred Connery to Moore. Unfortunately, Dalton never was a hit with the women I knew. And Lazenby never even was considered.

Of course, Bond is a male fantasy - no wonder why men like him more than women. Especially women today who don

[Santa]

[quote name='SecretAgentFan' post='614905' date='26 September 2006 - 20:09'] From my ABSOLUTELY SUBJECTIVE experience men are more open to Bond films than women. Brosnan was the first Bond that really scored with young women whereas older women preferred Connery to Moore. Unfortunately, Dalton never was a hit with the women I knew. And Lazenby never even was considered.

Of course, Bond is a male fantasy - no wonder why men like him more than women. Especially women today who don

[Sunny_on_SM]

[quote name='santajosep' post='614909' date='26 September 2006 - 16:13']
[quote name='SecretAgentFan' post='614905' date='26 September 2006 - 20:09'] From my ABSOLUTELY SUBJECTIVE experience men are more open to Bond films than women. Brosnan was the first Bond that really scored with young women whereas older women preferred Connery to Moore. Unfortunately, Dalton never was a hit with the women I knew. And Lazenby never even was considered.

Of course, Bond is a male fantasy - no wonder why men like him more than women. Especially women today who don

[erniecureo]

Interesting thread!

I think a point worth making is that while Bond has a rep for misogyny and objectification of women, the ones he's deeply attracted to are the ones with a life--the ones who are competent, passionate, and interesting.

Obviously, he's not above hopping into bed with a bimbo for some exercise, but who is?

Look at the one woman he married--hardly a bimbo.

It's also worth mentioning that the literary Bond and the screen Bond are different in a lot of ways--most of which, I think, has to do with the format--in films, a lot of things are dealt with in a shorthand kind of way, and it's impossible to do interior monologues on the nature of attraction.

[DaveBond21]

What makes James Bond movies special is that you get a great combination of everything in one movie, they are never depressing, have elements of drama, action, comedy, romance and some even have elements of science-fiction.

That is true, Sunny!!! Well said.


And ernie, there is nothing wrong with hopping into bed with a bimbo, whether its a male or female bimbo....

[Xenia_bondfan]

I think you ll find that there are more female bond fans on this forum than you think...

But I do agree that probably we are still largely outnumbered by men... Maybe it is just because men more easily hook on to one or several subjects and start collecting things... I think as a whole, you ll find that men are more "obsessed" ( i mean that in a good way and count myself among them) fans than woman, take any big fandom. star wars. star trek, and so on... probably pretty hard to find serious female fans there. Maybe it s just a natural tendency. Take even harry potter for instance, which i presume most woman would find easier to be a fan of than james bond. They might like it, but they probably wont put up posters all over their house, buy the collectibles etc...
Although there do tend to be more woman into fanfic, i believe...
Hmm...


As for the fact that James Bond needs to be good looking, i for one believe there is a difference between being good looking and being attractive.
Leonardo di caprio would be considered to be good looking
i hate him...
But James Bond needs to be attractive, sexy... I think that is way more important, and as far as i m concerned, absolutely necessary for any actor to play james bond. You want to look at him (as a woman) and like what you re seeing, enough to take a second look...

Just one more thing, I absolutely applaud whoever decided to make Bond walk out of the ocean himself now... About time they considered the ladies viewing pleasure... And with a body like that, dear old daniel can come and knock on my door anyday... heehee

[Mamadou]

Take even harry potter for instance, which i presume most woman would find easier to be a fan of than james bond. They might like it, but they probably wont put up posters all over their house, buy the collectibles etc...
Although there do tend to be more woman into fanfic, i believe...
Hmm...

I'm going to quibble with this and say I know far more girls who collect HP stuff, get in costume to go to the films (or where costumes normally), etc. That said, I think this phenomenon is confined to 12-14-year-old girls. I can't see too many adults of either gender really doing that with HP. With Star Trek or Star Wars or Lord of the Rings, however...

Besides that, good points.

[Sunny_on_SM]

As for the fact that James Bond needs to be good looking, i for one believe there is a difference between being good looking and being attractive.
Leonardo di caprio would be considered to be good looking
i hate him...
But James Bond needs to be attractive, sexy... I think that is way more important, and as far as i m concerned, absolutely necessary for any actor to play james bond. You want to look at him (as a woman) and like what you re seeing, enough to take a second look...

LOL...I remember when my Mother said when watching some movie or series: "I love seeing good-looking people on screen." I agree with what you said about Bond looks. He has to be attractive and charming enough to where most women would be able to say that this guy looks great, even if he is not exactly their type. That makes him believable in the role, since in all Bond movies women are supposed to fall for his charm, even if they are his enemy at the beginning. I think that being charming in a devilish way, having an interesting personality, is more important for Bond than just good looks. Like you said, Leonardo Di Caprio is considered good looking, so is Brad Pitt, but neither of them would make a good Bond.

[wide of the mark]

As for the fact that James Bond needs to be good looking, i for one believe there is a difference between being good looking and being attractive.
Leonardo di caprio would be considered to be good looking
i hate him...
But James Bond needs to be attractive, sexy... I think that is way more important, and as far as i m concerned, absolutely necessary for any actor to play james bond. You want to look at him (as a woman) and like what you re seeing, enough to take a second look...

LOL...I remember when my Mother said when watching some movie or series: "I love seeing good-looking people on screen." I agree with what you said about Bond looks. He has to be attractive and charming enough to where most women would be able to say that this guy looks great, even if he is not exactly their type. That makes him believable in the role, since in all Bond movies women are supposed to fall for his charm, even if they are his enemy at the beginning. I think that being charming in a devilish way, having an interesting personality, is more important for Bond than just good looks. Like you said, Leonardo Di Caprio is considered good looking, so is Brad Pitt, but neither of them would make a good Bond.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Though female fans rather depreciated in the 70's. Now a days it's up to the level in the 60's. Bond isn't a mans fantasy, its an adventure in both roles.

[Santa]

Something that's always annoyed me is the idea that Bond shouldn't appeal to women because he treats them badly . What, so no woman has ever used a man for sex and then tossed him aside, or manipulated, lied and cheated to get what she wants? I think Bond's supposed misogyny has been highly overstated, and feminists themselves have done more to hurt the cause of feminism than any man ever has. Most of the women in Bond films are perfectly capable of looking after themselves, in fact I believe that if I'd been growing up in the sixties I'd have found some of them quite inspirational.

[Xenia_bondfan]

Take even harry potter for instance, which i presume most woman would find easier to be a fan of than james bond. They might like it, but they probably wont put up posters all over their house, buy the collectibles etc...
Although there do tend to be more woman into fanfic, i believe...
Hmm...

I'm going to quibble with this and say I know far more girls who collect HP stuff, get in costume to go to the films (or where costumes normally), etc. That said, I think this phenomenon is confined to 12-14-year-old girls. I can't see too many adults of either gender really doing that with HP. With Star Trek or Star Wars or Lord of the Rings, however...

Besides that, good points.

I see what you are saying, and I do agree, in my opinion I only consider women. Of course you will always have your teenage girls screaming after the backstreet boys or robbie williams, but i don t really count those...

But even with Star Trek, Star Wars and Lord of the rings, how may woman are really into this stuff, dressing up, spending loads of money on collectibles, standing in line for hours to see a premiere, etc??

Something that's always annoyed me is the idea that Bond shouldn't appeal to women because he treats them badly . What, so no woman has ever used a man for sex and then tossed him aside, or manipulated, lied and cheated to get what she wants? I think Bond's supposed misogyny has been highly overstated, and feminists themselves have done more to hurt the cause of feminism than any man ever has. Most of the women in Bond films are perfectly capable of looking after themselves, in fact I believe that if I'd been growing up in the sixties I'd have found some of them quite inspirational.

I completely agree, take Pussy Galore for example... Hey, if this guy is good looking, readily available and more than willing, why not??
That doesn t make them any less strong personalities...

[Santa]

But even with Star Wars, how may woman are really into this stuff, dressing up, spending loads of money on collectibles, standing in line for hours to see a premiere, etc??

[Xenia_bondfan]

But even with Star Wars, how may woman are really into this stuff, dressing up, spending loads of money on collectibles, standing in line for hours to see a premiere, etc??

Hey, I am one of them as well you know, just trying to see the general idea here.... I think we are just the exceptions that confirm the rule...

[Skudor]

Female Bondfans are an interesting bunch.

[DaveBond21]

I am scared of people who dress up as their favourite Star Wars and Star Trek characters......


I once saw a fantastic photograph of a wedding in England, where everyone had to dress up as Star Wars people. The groom was Luke, the bride was Leia. And to my delight, one of the guests had drawn the short straw and had gotten R2D2 - although I like to think it was maybe a little bridesmaid, a page boy, or maybe a short best man, and one of R2's little arm thingies came out with the ring on the end of it.....


.....unfortunately the article to go with the photo didn't confirm this.

[Santa]

I am scared of people who dress up as their favourite Star Wars and Star Trek characters......

Even the Princess Leia in gold bikini thing? I didn't actually do that in public though, strictly for private fun .

[Skudor]

I've never understood that particular fetish. Must have been too young when StarWars came out.

[Santa]

Wow, unusual. It's generally a pretty easy way to get out of grovelling after doing something wrong. Works every time.

[Skudor]

Wow, unusual. It's generally a pretty easy way to get out of grovelling after doing something wrong. Works every time.

I'm more likely to fall for a Honey Ryder bikini and a little "oh James, you will look after my clam, won't you?"

[DaveBond21]

Even the Princess Leia in gold bikini thing? I didn't actually do that in public though, strictly for private fun .

No, you've got me there....

I love Princess Leia in the gold bikini, although why Han Solo didn't ask her to keep it on for the remainder of the movie I will never know.....