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#91 spynovelfan

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:23 AM

I know, I am gonna get kicked in the nuts for this, but this continues to sound bad for Craig and Casino Royale.  Craig is starting to be the equivalent of that one lady Bush wants for the Supreme Court.  Right down the middle, people like her or they really hate her, and the press is just chomping to take her down.  The same with Craig.  I understand he's a very private guy, but these stories are getting out into left field, and he hasn't even started filming yet.

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What sounds bad? He doesn't like guns. Neither did Roger Moore. He likes martinis. Good!

I think he got a *lot* of flack just after the press conference. But now? If this is as chomping to take him down and left-field as it gets, I can't really see a problem. I don't think that a year from now anybody's going to be discussing the Scotsman's little piece about Craig not liking handguns much. Do you?

#92 hrabb04

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 09:25 AM

Well, I hope you are right, spynovelfan. I just have a feeling the press is going to be all over Craig and Casino for quite some time, and I feel it's going to really make things tough.

#93 Mister Asterix

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 01:49 PM

FLEMING: No, I'm not keen on killing things,..

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[mra]Oh my God, Fleming doesn

#94 Trident

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 01:55 PM

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='26 October 2005 - 13:49'][quote name='spynovelfan' date='26 October 2005 - 03:54']FLEMING: No, I'm not keen on killing things,..

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[mra]Oh my God, Fleming doesn

#95 spynovelfan

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 02:08 PM

Ian Fleming? What a complete Gaylord holster!

#96 Stephenson

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 03:03 PM

I've always been fond of the Eddie Izzard comment about guns:

They say, "Guns don't kill people; people kill people." Well, surely the gun helps. You can't really just point your finger at someone and say "BANG!".

Aside from their use in hunting for food (not sport), I really fail to see how guns are any different from landmines or grenades. As for the technological advances in handguns, is it really such a great thing that people are spending large amounts of money and time in order to create something that will make the target more dead than the previous model could?

At the end of the day, I think I will move into the, "I couldn't possibly care less about this story" camp.

#97 sidney reilly

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 05:34 PM

=zencat,25 October 2005 - 19:30]
No, I'm implying this is a story planted by Pierce's press agent to continue to :) with Eon. Revenge. It is odd that Pierce's name is featured in all these stories. Craig is not just the "new Bond", he is the "replacement" or "successor to Pierce Brosnan."



They may sunning themselves by basking in Schadenfreude, but Brosnan's camp would hardly need to lift a finger to prod the tabloid press in that direction. The "Brosnan's successor" language is fairly common parlance, and not neccessarily suggestive of their hand behind the scenes. As the gun story gets picked up and recycled, other press outlets, out of laziness, will simply use that same wording, which is where the multiplier effect of the terminology comes in.

As was pointed out earlier in this thread, Craig was already a marked man in the tabloids due to his proximity to Kate Moss and Sienna Miller. The Bond angle is a gift from the gods from their perspective and they will lose no sleep over how these perceptions infect the wider media, having already been fanned by public reaction over a controversial casting choice. Many traditional news organs don't bother to devote much in the way of primary resources to entertainment news and will recycle / take dictation from elsewhere, even if it is of doubtful provenance.

Back on point, Brosnan's liberalism is well enough known to make him hardly the poster child for the NRA; I would imagine his views on handguns would be quite similar to Craig's and that he would find those sentiments not to have much relevance to how the Bond role is played in either his own case or in another actor's. If Brosnan or his surrogates were to shop around a "damaging" story on a successor, I don't believe it would be this one.

#98 hcmv007

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 06:10 PM

I I think he is doing it out of two parts: 1) Knowing he is going to be imitated by children now that he is James Bond and 2) I think handguns are not allowed in Great Britain (although I could be wrong). I for one do not own a gun, I am a terrible shot and if in a situation where I had ot use it, would probably hurt someone else.

#99 Taro Todoroki

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 06:30 PM

[quote name='Leon' date='25 October 2005 - 15:27'][quote name='spynovelfan' date='25 October 2005 - 19:21']
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EON have ordered some PPK's for Casino Royale :)

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Ooh. That's a scoop, surely?

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I have a source with the company and I am saying no more, but the story is correct. Good old PPK is back.

By the way, for todoroki-san (love the name btw, one of my favourite Fleming books), you'll recognise this poster, the PPK Brosnan was holding there was a rubber replica. They are amazingly detailed things for a chunk of rubber.

http://www.progressi...e/goldeneye.jpg

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Thanks Leon! I wondered about that poster. It almost looks like a P5 if my firearms memory is correct.

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 07:33 PM

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In the 1980s the NRA campaigned to prevent the banning of cop-killer bullets.

Obviously the NRA believed that the animal activists out there had managed to persuade the deer population to don kevlar vests.

I think that's rather telling about where their interests lie.

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Also telling is the fact that no police officer in the U.S. has ever been killed or wounded by an armor-piercing round that penetrated a vest.

#101 Mona Lovesit

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 07:46 AM

If the internet was around in 1972-3 I guess this is what Roger would have had to put up with as well. :)

#102 medrecess

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 08:08 AM

What kind of james bond would hate guns.He is supposed to be an expert assasin.
But Daniel Craig hates guns.What else does he hate - Going after Le Chiffre.
If that is the case then we will see Daniel Craig hugging Chiffre and giving him money to save his soul from SMERSH.

#103 Shrublands

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 08:19 AM

What kind of james bond would hate guns.He is supposed to be an expert assasin.
But Daniel Craig hates guns.What else does he hate - Going after Le Chiffre.
If that is the case then we will see Daniel Craig hugging Chiffre and giving him money to save his soul from SMERSH.

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:)

You seem to have a problem distinguishing fiction from reality.

You are joking, I assume?

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#104 medrecess

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 09:16 AM

I sure am

#105 lorna99

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 02:18 PM

The interview came from Ok! Magazine, it just a stupid celebrity magazine.

Mind the person who works for the Hollywood gossip in Ok! Magazine she disliked Daniel Craig and she works for the programme this morning as well.

How do we know what he said exactly said in the interview

#106 Alessandra

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 04:05 PM

I  I think he is doing it out of two parts:  1)  Knowing he is going to be imitated by children now that he is James Bond and 2)  I think handguns are not allowed in Great Britain (although I could be wrong).  I for one do not own a gun, I am a terrible shot and if in a situation where I had ot use it, would probably hurt someone else.

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just a quick line to those of you who are from the United States: basically everywhere in Europe guns are absolutely not allowed. People cannot go out and buy guns, and cannot keep one at home unless they have a specific license in most states. And most Europeans see it as very peculiar (to put it in mild terms) that people can go out and buy guns in the U.S.
bear it in mind when talking about the subject...
So. what Craig said seems perfectly natural to any "average" European.. (I say average because I can't speak for everyone, there may be people who are in favour of guns, even though they are a tiny minority).
Brosnan, being a European himself, just has the feelings that the majority has here, I'm sure. And so does Craig.

#107 hcmv007

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Posted 31 October 2005 - 01:43 PM

[quote name='Alessandra' date='28 October 2005 - 11:05'][quote name='hcmv007' date='26 October 2005 - 19:10']I

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Posted 31 October 2005 - 02:08 PM

[quote name='hcmv007' date='31 October 2005 - 14:43'][quote name='Alessandra' date='28 October 2005 - 11:05'][quote name='hcmv007' date='26 October 2005 - 19:10']I

#109 Niwram

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Posted 27 November 2005 - 12:16 PM

I think we can be pretty sure none of the other Bond actors liked guns either.
Only americans likes guns.
And i think that article is more Craig-praising than Craig-bashing.

Edited by Niwram, 27 November 2005 - 12:17 PM.


#110 Qwerty

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Posted 27 November 2005 - 11:12 PM

Only americans likes guns.

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#111 Tired And Emotional

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Posted 27 November 2005 - 11:59 PM

Well some Americans like guns; given the hoo-hah in Britain when the latest legislation on handguns came into force so do some British.

I personally can think of no good reason why any private citizen should want or need to own a handgun which is designed purely to kill, you know, people.

#112 Andrew

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 12:16 AM

I personally can think of no good reason why any private citizen should want or need to own a handgun which is designed purely to kill, you  know, people.

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Well depending on where you live, protection. Handguns can also be used for target shooting which is quite fun.

I think that all firearms should be legalized but I have other forums to discuss that.

#113 hcmv007

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 01:37 PM

I just really don't think it's a big deal. So he dislikes guns. That's his opinion. Big deal.

Tired and Emotional-I am not bashing you or anything, but guns do not kill people. People who use guns irresponsibly kill people.

#114 Tired And Emotional

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 03:05 PM

guns do not kill people. People who use guns irresponsibly kill people.


Has someone already quoted Eddie Izzard?

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 03:31 PM

guns do not kill people. People who use guns irresponsibly kill people.


Has someone already quoted Eddie Izzard?

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Not to my knowledge. Sure the gun helps but as I said right off the bat, lots of things could 'help'. If I threw a steak knife into someone's chest, nobody would be bitching about how the evil steak knife lobby just wants to keep them on the market so we can kill everyone.

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 03:53 PM

guns do not kill people. People who use guns irresponsibly kill people.


Has someone already quoted Eddie Izzard?

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Not to my knowledge. Sure the gun helps but as I said right off the bat, lots of things could 'help'. If I threw a steak knife into someone's chest, nobody would be bitching about how the evil steak knife lobby just wants to keep them on the market so we can kill everyone.

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But knifes are not created to kill people. Guns have only that purpose.
And do you really think school shooters would get any far with just knifes?

#117 hcmv007

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 03:58 PM

I just think if DC doesn't like guns, that's his right. I do not think he should be villified for it, nor should he be a hero for it either, that is the point I am trying to make. I think Craig is right in his beliefs, and do not wish to sound like I am saying he is 100% wrong. Personally, I do not have a problem w/ him being anti gun. However, if he came to the US and lobbied for gun control, I would be against it. So, no ill will to anyone who hates guns, I do undestand your point. Peace out!

Edited by hcmv007, 28 November 2005 - 04:11 PM.


#118 Lounge Lizard

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 04:37 PM

Craig doesn't like guns. He prefers to kill deer with his bare hands.

Edited by Lounge Lizard, 28 November 2005 - 04:38 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2005 - 04:41 PM

Craig doesn't like guns. He prefers to kill deer with his bare hands.

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People don't use handguns for hunting.

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 04:44 PM

Craig doesn't like guns. He prefers to kill deer with his bare hands.

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People don't use handguns for hunting.

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Large caliber handguns are used for hunting quite a bit.

And considering that planes have been hijacked with box cutters, yes I think if someone wants to cause violence they are going to find a way to do it reagrdless of the means available to them.