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[License To Kill]

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Not very interesting, but it is interesting that it says blatantly in the article that Craig will be using Walther PPK in Casino Royale. I just assumed that P99 was happening from now on, no matter when the movie was taking place.

[marktmurphy]

I wouldn't take much notice of the PPK thing- it doesn't really prove anything either way. Indeed, the shot of him holding the P99 probably means more.

As for not liking guns; seems a sensible man.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Yeah I wouldn't put too much stock in the PPK bit...they probably just didn't know what the P99 was called.


"I hate handguns. Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other. That's a simple fact."



Uh huh...just like as long as glass is around you could break it and stab someone to death with it....

[Loomis]

How very not-living-and-breathing-Bond of him. Sack him at once!

[Leon]

Erm, excuse me but this is an outrageous excuse to have another go at Daniel Craig. Anyone who LIKES guns is sick, Craig isn't talking about pretending in films or paintballing and messing about, he is talking about real firearms which are designed and built to kill human beings.

I have also seen someone shot on a night out and it is highly unpleasant and worrying. I've even heard an ex-sas soldier say how he hates/hated guns and having to use them, and how that is not the main purpose of what his job was about, but was a necessary defence every now and then.

When I was younger I loves paintballing and airsoft, I still love the odd shoot em up game when I get the chance. But that doesn't mean I like guns, they are awful things and I hope I never come any closer to one than I already have been.

As for the PPK news, that's superb, it's 007's pistol and is so much more spy and stylish and sleek than the P99 which I always thought was ridiculously big to be carrying around in his clothes every day.

EDIT: I have had it on a very good source that EON ordered 3 PPK's for Casino Royale. It is true, but I can't give a lot of detail on it because the supplier is nuts about leaking film info. They are the same supplier who auctioned some of the MP5's used in the Iranian Embassy seige when the MOD had given them off to be strictly used for film only. They got a hell of a rowlocking for that one I heard.

Edited by Leon, 25 October 2005 - 02:50 PM.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

How very not-living-and-breathing-Bond of him. Sack him at once!

Don't give the media any ideas...they will be all over this.

No guns in new bond movie???


Roger hated guns too and his films turned out having some great action, I'd say. So this shouldn't be a worry.

[marktmurphy]

Uh huh...just like as long as glass is around you could break it and stab someone to death with it....

Yeah... you know that glass isn't designed and manufactured for the express purpose of killing people, though?

[spynovelfan]

Yeah I wouldn't put too much stock in the PPK bit...they probably just didn't know what the P99 was called.


"I hate handguns. Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other. That's a simple fact."



Uh huh...just like as long as glass is around you could break it and stab someone to death with it....

I agree that Craig's quote is a bit simplistic. But glass? Glass isn't *made* to harm people. He does have *something* of a point, surely?

[tbp82]

Wow! Daniel Craig hates gun. He is such an idiot why would anyone hate guns. Sure, some people use guns for hunting but a lot of them use them for Robberies, Assault, Battery, and Murder. What is wrong with guns?................I know that was stupid but anyone who uses his disdain for guns is crazy. Guns should be for hunting, law enforcement. Guns should be used for hunting, law enforcement, and the movies. Daniel Craig seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

[DLibrasnow]

Uh huh...just like as long as glass is around you could break it and stab someone to death with it....

Are you suggesting that the manufacturer of the glass produced it for the express purposes of it being used to stab somebody.

[Alessandra]

Yeah I wouldn't put too much stock in the PPK bit...they probably just didn't know what the P99 was called.


"I hate handguns. Handguns are used to shoot people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other. That's a simple fact."



Uh huh...just like as long as glass is around you could break it and stab someone to death with it....

I agree that Craig's quote is a bit simplistic. But glass? Glass isn't *made* to harm people. He does have *something* of a point, surely?

ok now.. for once Craig says something right and the right way??! let it go! lol
I'm serious! had he been so firm and decided in giving sensible answers at the press conference I would've given him an applause.
He's right on guns. Period.

[Leon]

He has it as part of his script in layer Cake, a great scene where he's given a gun to protect himself from the Serbs:

"Are you joking?? I ing hate guns!....although that one is reeeally pretty, what is that World War 2?"

[spynovelfan]

I think we just need two more people to make the 'glass' comment to drive CoS totally mad.

[Trident]

Many actors seem not to be exactly fond of guns though their roles call for the use of them. Some are very vocal about the matter, some keep their personal views to themselves.

I remember Richard Dean Anderson arguing against guns back in the days when he was still playing "MacGiver". Since his Stargate series (and the considerable amount of shooting therein) I heard nothing about the possible use or misuse of firearms any more (though I may have missed it; I'm not such a great fan).
Another example is Patrick McGoohan, I believe (but please, all Number Six fans may correct me if I'm wrong). He too wasn't a fan of guns and in many of his roles didn't use them even when the setting and theme of those roles sometimes were almost screaming for a gun. I think of "Danger Man", "Number Six" or "Ice Station Zebra". He didn't completely avoid shooting but did it far less then was the custom at that times (and compared to nowadays, his shooters merits seem to disappear althogheter). Roger Moore was already mentioned in the article. I remember reading somewhere he tended to close his eyes in anticipation of the bang every time he had to shoot. A habit he had to get rid of when he starred as Bond. His colleague Patrick Macnee also was against firearms if my Avengers guide is correct. Having seen such vast destruction in WWII he wouldn't have liked to entertain audiences by use of guns. In contradiction to this, early episodes of the Avengers saw Steed readily using guns and generally as a far more violent character. Only his growing influence on the production made Steed the kind of Gentleman one remembers today when thinking of "The Avengers" (at least that's what I gather from the Avengers guide; I didn't see the first seasons myself).

So, a certain kind of reservations against firearms is not uncommon amongst actors it seems.

[Mister Asterix]

Anyone who LIKES guns is sick...

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[marktmurphy]

Fair point, Mr *- I love clay shooting. But then Craig was talking about handguns and they're pretty much only made for one purpose.

[crheath]

So what?

[The Dove]

Who the hell cares if Daniel Craig doesn't like guns??! I'm sure even the character of James Bond himself is not all that keen on being shot at or taking someone's life.. He's Bond, not Ted Nugent!!

[SecretAgent007]

I shoot handguns competitively, carry concealed (have a CCW) and own a company that deals in handgun accessories. And, believe it or not, I'm not sick, twisted, or a psychopath. Don't go name calling because a few people have misused handguns. Most handgun owners are very responsible citizens.

[morganhavoc]

Last time I checked it wasn't the gun killing people it was the person holding the gun. Not an NRA member or anything but guns are only as bad as the person using them. People kill people if they have guns or not. Just easier with a gun and don't we all want to make things easier for everyone?
As long as Bond still uses the tools of his trade, I don't care what the actor feels about when using the props.

[Leon]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='25 October 2005 - 15:42'][quote name='Leon' date='25 October 2005 - 09:47']Anyone who LIKES guns is sick...

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[inSPECTRE]

that irks me a tad, but wont prevent me from watching the movie

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I think we just need two more people to make the 'glass' comment to drive CoS totally mad.

Well what I am saying is that if I stabbed someone to death with a piece of glass (or anything else for that matter) no one would blame the glass itself - they'd blame the lunatic who is killing people. So why should it be generalized that guns kill people? I have access to several guns and I've never shot anyone, I have them for target shooting and yes - defense should it be necessary, not to go out and hunt down the neighbors.

If a person kills someone with a gun, it isn't the guns fault just like it wouldn't be the fault of a piece of glass (I have no idea why I used that example honestly) or a chainsaw or a steak knife.

[SecretAgent007]

Or a car

[trumanlodge89]

clint eastwood hates violence. and hes mades some of the most violent movies on hollywood. but he plays characters that like to shoot people. (i just watched High Plains Drifter yesterday.)


i have been in plays where my character has cheated on his wife and abused women. these are two things that i wouldnt do in a million years. its playing a character though. that is what acting is. daniel craig is not daniel craig in casino royale, he is james bond. who cares if he likes guns or not?

[doublenoughtspy]

CoS has a valid point.

I remember when martial arts accessories like throwing stars and butterfly knives became very popular in the 80s.

Then 20/20 did one of their famous exposes on them, showing how far they could penetrate a watermelon. Gasp! Image if that was your child!

So it caused an upswell and those things started to be banned.

Meanwhile a martial arts magazine showed how household implements, that are in EVERYONES house, like scissors, kitchen knives, etc. etc. could do the exact same damage to the watermelon.

What CoS is trying to say is that there are so many things that can be turned into weapons and kill people.

Would banning hand guns suddenly stop people from killing people? Of course not.

Yes, hand guns make it easier to kill people. But they have been around for centuries and will continue to do so, whether Daniel Craig likes them or not.

And I am confused as to how people that are so anti-gun would love Bond. Do you fast forward through the gun barrel sequence

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

And I am confused as to how people that are so anti-gun would love Bond.  Do you fast forward through the gun barrel sequence 

I was thinking that myself!

[Taro Todoroki]

Erm, excuse me but this is an outrageous excuse to have another go at Daniel Craig. Anyone who LIKES guns is sick, Craig isn't talking about pretending in films or paintballing and messing about, he is talking about real firearms which are designed and built to kill human beings.

I have also seen someone shot on a night out and it is highly unpleasant and worrying. I've even heard an ex-sas soldier say how he hates/hated guns and having to use them, and how that is not the main purpose of what his job was about, but was a necessary defence every now and then.

When I was younger I loves paintballing and airsoft, I still love the odd shoot em up game when I get the chance. But that doesn't mean I like guns, they are awful things and I hope I never come any closer to one than I already have been.

As for the PPK news, that's superb, it's 007's pistol and is so much more spy and stylish and sleek than the P99 which I always thought was ridiculously big to be carrying around in his clothes every day.

EDIT: I have had it on a very good source that EON ordered 3 PPK's for Casino Royale. It is true, but I can't give a lot of detail on it because the supplier is nuts about leaking film info. They are the same supplier who auctioned some of the MP5's used in the Iranian Embassy seige when the MOD had given them off to be strictly used for film only. They got a hell of a rowlocking for that one I heard.

Don't they use special blank firing props and not actual guns? Do they convert them from actual guns? Excuse my ignorance.

[DLibrasnow]

[quote name='doublenoughtspy' date='25 October 2005 - 11:59']
I remember when martial arts accessories like throwing stars and butterfly knives became very popular in the 80s.

Then 20/20 did one of their famous exposes on them, showing how far they could penetrate a watermelon.

[tdalton]

This just another insignificant detail that the media is blowing out of proportion in order to further their anti-Craig agenda. So what if Craig doesn't like guns? To me, that's a very sensible stance to take, as such items generally do much more harm to the overall population than they do good.

Really, the only thing I have left to say about the media is that I'm tired of all this Craig bashing done by "respectable" publications, and I will discontinue my readership of any publication that continues to push this garbage. Criticism with merit is perfectly fine, but the media has yet to find any criticism of merit against Daniel Craig. It seems to me that they only dislike him because he's not Pierce Brosnan.