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#211 spynovelfan

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 03:21 PM

Wasn't me who made the poster. :)

Looks are less important for men, though, that's the thing.

It's all about the size of our feet. :)

I take your point, but would hate to see Knightley cast as Vesper. I thought she was awful in KING ARTHUR, and every review I've read of DOMINO says she's just as bad in that. I liked her in BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM, but I thought her Guinevere was the kind of 'She's Arthur's equal' rubbish I can't stand in the Bond films. :) And I just found her totally unconvincing in the part.

But that's neither here nor there. I agree with you that the actress playing Vesper (or any other Bond girl part) has to be drop-dead gorgeous or it doesn't work. But Roger looked 128 in A VIEW TO A KILL and it didn't matter *that* much. :)

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 03:25 PM

Wasn't me who made the poster. :)

Looks are less important for men, though, that's the thing.

It's all about the size of our feet. :)

I take your point, but would hate to see Knightley cast as Vesper. I thought she was awful in KING ARTHUR, and every review I've read of DOMINO says she's just as bad in that. I liked her in BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM, but I thought her Guinevere was the kind of 'She's Arthur's equal' rubbish I can't stand in the Bond films. :) And I just found her totally unconvincing in the part.

But that's neither here nor there. I agree with you that the actress playing Vesper (or any other Bond girl part) has to be drop-dead gorgeous or it doesn't work. But Roger looked 128 in A VIEW TO A KILL and it didn't matter *that* much. :)

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LOL :) it DID matter, in fact I didn't like the movie (Except for the Duran Duran soundtrack of course!) :)
Ok, Keira out then. I take your word for it!
how about my lovely Ashley Judd?? :)

PS: looks are just as much important in an ACTOR who portrays Bond. And in a man. It's just that men think they are not! lol :)
As far as I'm concerned, only hunks for me. LMAO :)

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#213 Kara Milovy

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 08:12 PM

I've said this before - but doesn't Patrick Stewart look a hell of a lot like a bald Timothy Dalton?


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And is it just me who sings the title of this thread to the the tune of Duran Duran's 'Girls on Film'?

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Oh my GOD YOU'RE RIGHT. No wonder I love Stewart so.

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 08:20 PM

I've said this before - but doesn't Patrick Stewart look a hell of a lot like a bald Timothy Dalton?


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And is it just me who sings the title of this thread to the the tune of Duran Duran's 'Girls on Film'?

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Oh my GOD YOU'RE RIGHT. No wonder I love Stewart so.

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Yeah, I've always thought that too. Imagine if Stewart ever played Blofeld opposite Dalton's Bond?

But sometimes what I've thought - as much as I highly appreciated Dalton's portrayal of Bond and realise he is his own person, if he had played the part even a bit more like how Patrick Stewart acts, he might've won audiences over a bit more. Stewart has a lighter touch overall than Dalton and certainly a more commanding and richer speaker speaking voice. Now if Dalton did something similar, no-one would ever be able to fault him for being too serious, and he could've easily silenced any critics who wanted Brosnan instead. Women certainly seem to like Stewart, sometimes it seems, more so than Dalton. Is it because of his voice and personality/ acting?

Alternatively, if Stewart had Dalton's hair back in TLD, Stewart could've made an excellent Bond himself.

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 08:25 PM

James Bonds' sexiness comes from his personality,three inch scar and his comma of black hair.

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 08:29 PM

Alternatively, if Stewart had Dalton's hair back in TLD, Stewart could've made an excellent Bond himself.

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Ok, well maybe that didn't work so well:

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#217 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 10:29 PM

[quote name='Kara Milovy' date='24 October 2005 - 10:30'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='23 October 2005 - 11:02'][quote name='Kara Milovy' date='23 October 2005 - 01:08'] That said, my toes could curl for Daniel Dae Kim or Laurence Fishburne or Antonio Banderas

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 11:19 PM

What hair colour do women prefer on a man ?

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I think I'm coming very late - hoping not too - on this thread which Dalton's Wendy kindly informed me about :)

I do like blond-haired and chesnut-haired men with blue eyes - like Roger Moore :)

#219 Bryce (003)

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 11:30 PM

Hope I fit the bill.

I couldn't resist some shameless self promotion.

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 11:35 PM

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tsk tsk tsk....smoking in a picture.

Come on...

You're a role model...

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#221 Bryce (003)

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 11:41 PM

Hey, it is a "filthy habit", but I try to do it with style. One of my vices that's soon to be laid to rest....But not too soon.

Thankfully, it'll be by choice and not Doctor's orders.

Never thought of myself as a role model.

Thanks Sharky. :)

#222 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:09 AM

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And a wise person never does, Bryce, Baby!

P. S. You do fit it! :)

#223 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:12 AM

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I think I'm coming very late - hoping not too - on this thread which Dalton's Wendy kindly informed me about :)

I do like blond-haired and chesnut-haired men with blue eyes - like Roger Moore :)

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You are never too late, ma ch

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:15 AM

Yay, a girl thread!

Luckily I'm too lazy to read the whole thing, so I've no idea how the epic battle between Jim and the anti-Craig brigade ever did turn out. Was there bloodshed? Does anyone have a tape?

At the risk of treading on familiar ground, my first Bond film was OHMSS. This probably spoiled things for me; I've seen it as the black sheep of the franchise ever since (excepting DAD, which is the murderous crackhead cousin of the franchise). I am sure it (OHMSS, not DAD, for God's sake) is a fine film, but it's simply not Bond. Anyway, it was not OHMSS that got me hooked: it was the idea of Bond.

I was hooked on Bond years before I saw a film or read a book. I can't possibly explain it without sounding far too SavageGarden-y, but there is something about the concept and the persona of the man that captivates you if you're completely insane, as I am. (Hey, it happened to Tania, right? And she wasn't...TOO crazy.)

After I'd seen all the films I finally turned to the source material - FYEO was my first book, and remains my favorite, solely because of the explanation of how Bond lost his virginity and his note-case in Paris. There is something terribly, terribly funny about that. At the moment I prefer the novels to the films, and am largely dissatisfied with almost all the film portrayals. For one thing, they are all quite iconic of the eras in which they lived, where Bond is - if you ask me - fairly timeless. (Side note: one reason why Austin Powers quickly lost his sheen is that Bond is totally NOT sixties, baby. Never was. You want to do a spot-on parody, make him fifties if you must, except don't, because the fifties aren't funny. The man himself is funny, apart from the decade he's in - and he knows it, too.)

I think each film Bond got an aspect right. He's a hard character to translate to screen, as he was meant to be somewhat of an everyman. Connery caught on to the playfulness and the zest for life that hides under a cruel shell when he's got to kill; Lazenby was the kinder, gentler side of Bond - the side that was "easily tipped over into sentiment," as we learn in Fleming's CR. Moore was the smooth, witty Etonian that Bond is sometimes forced to be. Dalton was the savage, desperately sexy yet anonymous-looking killer with a heart of gold. Brosnan is - was! - the desperately sexy killer who never grew up after age twelve - an important element from Fleming that was mostly lost in the cinematic Bond. Each one, sayeth the Psychology-obsessed girl, got just a tad bit right. None of them were close to perfect.

In reality, Bond is all of that and more. He is incredibly complex, incredibly real, despite his superhuman luck and the bizarre situations he lands in. I love every bit of him, up to and including his cruel, ruthless ways. I think a lot of women still wish they could find a man like that, who won't sit for hours and talk about how you're feeling, but will tug your hair and order you around just a little bit - take care of you, protect you, if it comes to that. Few women will admit it. Lots of them would snatch one up if he came along. In this day and age, when it's okay for boys to cry, there's something very refresing and very alluring about a man who still hides his tears.

#225 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:30 AM

Yay, a girl thread!

I think each film Bond got an aspect right.  He's a hard character to translate to screen, as he was meant to be somewhat of an everyman.  Connery caught on to the playfulness and the zest for life that hides under a cruel shell when he's got to kill; Lazenby was the kinder, gentler side of Bond - the side that was "easily tipped over into sentiment," as we learn in Fleming's CR.  Moore was the smooth, witty Etonian that Bond is sometimes forced to be.  Dalton was the savage, desperately sexy yet anonymous-looking killer with a heart of gold.  Brosnan is - was! - the desperately sexy killer who never grew up after age twelve - an important element from Fleming that was mostly lost in the cinematic Bond.  Each one, sayeth the Psychology-obsessed girl, got just a tad bit right.  None of them were close to perfect.

In reality, Bond is all of that and more.  He is incredibly complex, incredibly real, despite his superhuman luck and the bizarre situations he lands in.  I love every bit of him, up to and including his cruel, ruthless ways.  I think a lot of women still wish they could find a man like that, who won't sit for hours and talk about how you're feeling, but will tug your hair and order you around just a little bit - take care of you, protect you, if it comes to that.  Few women will admit it.  Lots of them would snatch one up if he came along.  In this day and age, when it's okay for boys to cry, there's something very refresing and very alluring about a man who still hides his tears.

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Tortilla Factory - I am sitting here in awe! Words fail me -- and that is something which they seldom do.

In my opinion, your final two paragraphs have summarized 42 years of the appeal of James Bond to every female alive during that span of time. You have illustrated how each of us has managed to find, in each of the Fabulous Five, something which appeals to us -- and keeps us coming back for more.

I thank you so much for providing this insight for us, and, to everyone who reads this thread: if they can read one post only, read that of Tortilla Factory's!

When is your first book coming out, T. F.?

#226 TortillaFactory

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:33 AM

You flatter me far, far too much.

When is your first book coming out, T. F.?


God willing, after I get through with this tedious college admissions process that's eating my life. In the meantime, read my fanfictions (links in signature). </shameless plug> :)

#227 Bryce (003)

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:43 AM

P. S.  You do fit it!  :)

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*bows and raises glass of '93 Dom*

and TF - You are wise beyond your years in the world of Bond.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 01:07 AM

Yay, a girl thread!

At the risk of treading on familiar ground, my first Bond film was OHMSS.  This probably spoiled things for me; I've seen it as the black sheep of the franchise ever since (excepting DAD, which is the murderous crackhead cousin of the franchise).  I am sure it (OHMSS, not DAD, for God's sake) is a fine film, but it's simply not Bond.  Anyway, it was not OHMSS that got me hooked: it was the idea of Bond.

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Totally fabulous essay, TF, very insightful and well-written and interesting. Thanks.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:11 AM

[quote name='Bryce (003)' date='24 October 2005 - 20:43'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='24 October 2005 - 17:09']P. S.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:15 AM

[quote name='spynovelfan' date='24 October 2005 - 11:21']
Wasn't me who made the poster. :)

No, I believe it was marktmurphy -- a phenomenal poster, by the way.

[quote name='spynovelfan' date='24 October 2005 - 11:21']
Looks are less important for men, though, that's the thing.

That's for sure!

[quote name='spynovelfan' date='24 October 2005 - 11:21']
It's all about the size of our feet. :)

That is also for sure! :)

[quote name='spynovelfan' date='24 October 2005 - 11:21']
Babes on Bond...
Babes on Bond...
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They're playing our song!

#231 Bryce (003)

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 03:34 AM

Re:  '93 Dom:  what am I, Bryce -- an orphan?  don't you think I'd like some Dom,  just about now?

Or Bolly?  :)

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The '93 is quite good right now, but the Magnums of '95 are incredible. Ask Athena or Zencat. As for the Bollinger, the Brut, Grand Anni '96 are on par. Clensing one's palate' they are great with some beluga.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 04:00 AM

[quote name='Bryce (003)' date='24 October 2005 - 23:34'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='24 October 2005 - 19:11']Re:

#233 spynovelfan

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:27 AM

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Bryce, that is especially shameless, seeing as you posted the precise same photo on page one of this thread! :)

Dalton's Wendy, you should check out some of TF's writing in the fan fiction section of this site. Then, like the rest of us, you can feel physically sick that someone still in their teens can write so well. :)

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#234 Alessandra

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:39 AM

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Bryce.. you are definitely shameless!! which is one of the qualities I like most in a man! lol :) :) :)
of course you fit the bill, why do you think we actually initiated this thread? to actually have some men show up and give us their photos, so we can choose our own real Bond! :) :)

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:48 AM

Yay, a girl thread!

Luckily I'm too lazy to read the whole thing, so I've no idea how the epic battle between Jim and the anti-Craig brigade ever did turn out.  Was there bloodshed?  Does anyone have a tape?

At the risk of treading on familiar ground, my first Bond film was OHMSS.  This probably spoiled things for me; I've seen it as the black sheep of the franchise ever since (excepting DAD, which is the murderous crackhead cousin of the franchise).  I am sure it (OHMSS, not DAD, for God's sake) is a fine film, but it's simply not Bond.  Anyway, it was not OHMSS that got me hooked: it was the idea of Bond.

I was hooked on Bond years before I saw a film or read a book.  I can't possibly explain it without sounding far too SavageGarden-y, but there is something about the concept and the persona of the man that captivates you if you're completely insane, as I am.  (Hey, it happened to Tania, right?  And she wasn't...TOO crazy.) 

After I'd seen all the films I finally turned to the source material - FYEO was my first book, and remains my favorite, solely because of the explanation of how Bond lost his virginity and his note-case in Paris.  There is something terribly, terribly funny about that.  At the moment I prefer the novels to the films, and am largely dissatisfied with almost all the film portrayals.  For one thing, they are all quite iconic of the eras in which they lived, where Bond is - if you ask me - fairly timeless.  (Side note: one reason why Austin Powers quickly lost his sheen is that Bond is totally NOT sixties, baby.  Never was.  You want to do a spot-on parody, make him fifties if you must, except don't, because the fifties aren't funny.  The man himself is funny, apart from the decade he's in - and he knows it, too.)

I think each film Bond got an aspect right.  He's a hard character to translate to screen, as he was meant to be somewhat of an everyman.  Connery caught on to the playfulness and the zest for life that hides under a cruel shell when he's got to kill; Lazenby was the kinder, gentler side of Bond - the side that was "easily tipped over into sentiment," as we learn in Fleming's CR.  Moore was the smooth, witty Etonian that Bond is sometimes forced to be.  Dalton was the savage, desperately sexy yet anonymous-looking killer with a heart of gold.  Brosnan is - was! - the desperately sexy killer who never grew up after age twelve - an important element from Fleming that was mostly lost in the cinematic Bond.  Each one, sayeth the Psychology-obsessed girl, got just a tad bit right.  None of them were close to perfect.

In reality, Bond is all of that and more.  He is incredibly complex, incredibly real, despite his superhuman luck and the bizarre situations he lands in.  I love every bit of him, up to and including his cruel, ruthless ways.  I think a lot of women still wish they could find a man like that, who won't sit for hours and talk about how you're feeling, but will tug your hair and order you around just a little bit - take care of you, protect you, if it comes to that.  Few women will admit it.  Lots of them would snatch one up if he came along.  In this day and age, when it's okay for boys to cry, there's something very refresing and very alluring about a man who still hides his tears.

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TF.. this is an awesome summary of everything Bond is, means, and why he appeals us girls so much.
the last paragraph in particular, has such a refreshing view onto the whole "bond vs real men" matter that I can barely believe you are so young! :)
Well let me tell you, the future is shining very bright for you! It's great to see there are girls around with such a clear view of what they want :)
And you do write in an excellent style. :)
I bow, and clap my hands in utter admiration :)
Thanks for visiting us, hopefully we'll get to talk more often! :)

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 08:53 AM

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I think I'm coming very late - hoping not too - on this thread which Dalton's Wendy kindly informed me about :)

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Lady Templar, it's never too late to come illuminate us with your deep knowledge of Sir Roger, and give us your girl thoughts about Bond!
We were awaiting you.. and I must say I was awaiting your arrival in particular, since I've been unfairly accused of disliking Moore, when instead he's simply not my favourite Bond. But I loved him as "the saint". :)
So.. welcome! :)

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 09:01 AM

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Bryce, that is especially shameless, seeing as you posted the precise same photo on page one of this thread! :)

Dalton's Wendy, you should check out some of TF's writing in the fan fiction section of this site. Then, like the rest of us, you can feel physically sick that someone still in their teens can write so well. :)

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now Spy, just how much do I like the song... I keep singing it!!!
I've been singing all of Duran Duran's hits from my teens since yesterday (NOT a good element to prove I'm sane, I agree lol :) )
But just bear in mind. I've been a piano player since I was 5 years old, and it's dangerous to provoke a musician with some musical thought.. because then we can't get rid of it for days!! lol :)
Bryce really is shameless.. is that the reason why we like him so much? :)
As for TF, ah the joys of talent. You either get that when you're very young, or you're doomed to try and make up for it for the rest of your adult life! :) :)
And guys.. what is all this concentration on champagne only on DOM and Bolly??
You should come over to southern Europe more frequently.... champagne is a very complicated subject, which requires studying.. AND TASTING! :)

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 10:24 AM

In reality, Bond is all of that and more. He is incredibly complex, incredibly real, despite his superhuman luck and the bizarre situations he lands in. I love every bit of him, up to and including his cruel, ruthless ways. I think a lot of women still wish they could find a man like that, who won't sit for hours and talk about how you're feeling, but will tug your hair and order you around just a little bit - take care of you, protect you, if it comes to that. Few women will admit it. Lots of them would snatch one up if he came along. In this day and age, when it's okay for boys to cry, there's something very refresing and very alluring about a man who still hides his tears.

Women! Setting impossible bars for us common mortal men to reach. When a man is macho they say he should be more in touch with his feminine side, and when he is sensitive they say he should boss them around more! You just can't please them! (Just joking!).
But enough of the men and women relationships.
Excellent essay TF! It summarizes perfectly the personality of Bond and the qualities that each actor brought to the character.
And here I was, thinking that the things that I like in Bond were the girls, the guns, the girls, the cars, the girls, the gadgets, the girls, the action, the girls, the exotic locales, the girls, the lifestyle, the girls..... (You get my point!).

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 01:00 PM

we DO get the point AnGer! :)
speaking of which, let's turn the question on you guys.. I'm curious to know. Who would you want as Vesper Lynd and why? We'll compare women's and men's views on this.
Vesper must be beautiful, but very self-confident and mysterious at the same time. To me she also has that sort of "timeless" charm and grace that very little women manage to have. I think Elizabeth Taylor, or Vivien Leigh would've portrayed her wonderfully!
but we have to pick someone from nowadays...
Spy has already ruled out Keira Knightley whom I thought could've been nice as Vesper, so I take his word for it and settle on another one.
Can't help thinking about Ashley (Judd), whom I just LOVE.
And what about Winona Ryder?? too popular huh?? darn. lol :)
Diane Kruger?
just please, I beg you: NO Angelina Jolie!! :)

#240 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 04:35 PM

Women! Setting impossible bars for us common mortal men to reach. When a man is macho they say he should be more in touch with his feminine side, and when he is sensitive they say he should boss them around more! You just can't please them!


Yes, you can!

You can please this writer!

Just give her TIMOTHY DALTON!!!!! :)