955 replies to this topic

[Mr Malcolm]

[quote name='Alessandra' date='29 November 2005 - 15:03'][quote name='Scrambled Eggs' date='29 November 2005 - 15:46']

[Dalton's Wendy]

"hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Oh wait, my cookies are burning". Is this the Bond girl's dialogue??

If she happens to be built like me, and dressed as I am, and scented as I am, while I am baking . . . you bet your sweet cookie-dough it is!

As long as the female isn't built like the Pilsbury Dough girl!

See CBn Members' Map.

[Dalton's Wendy]

Very funny.. but I would never cook Carbonara for Bond.. too unrefined.

You sure as heck would if he asked for it!

A wise woman knows never to argue with a hungry man!

[Alessandra]

[quote name='Mr Malcolm' date='29 November 2005 - 17:04'][quote name='Alessandra' date='29 November 2005 - 15:03'][quote name='Scrambled Eggs' date='29 November 2005 - 15:46']

[Alessandra]

Very funny.. but I would never cook Carbonara for Bond.. too unrefined.

You sure as heck would if he asked for it!

A wise woman knows never to argue with a hungry man!

Well we weren't talking about requests (and I highly doubt Bond would ever ask for a carbonara, I mean, seriously!! Dom Perignon gets on ZERO with Carbonara! And Bond isn't a coal miner.. he's Bond! lol )
We were talking about what out of my own initiative I would cook for Bond.
And carbonara is not included, just as amatriciana is not included. And not even lasagne. Too unrefined, too basic.
Refined Italian cuisine is onto far more delicate tastes. Savoury, but with more delicate and "recherch

[Loomis]

Hmmm.... carbonara is one of my favourite dishes. I have a great recipe, which is something along the lines of:

Cook a finely-chopped onion, add some streaky bacon, then leave aside. Prepare sauce by mixing four eggs with half a pint of double cream, a very generous amount of parmesan cheese (make sure it's real and good parmesan, obviously, and grate it yourself), and four cloves of garlic (crushed). Cook spaghetti for a few minutes or however long the packet tells ya, then drain and put it in a bowl that you've warmed in the oven till it's pretty darn hot. Add the onion and bacon. Pour sauce over the onion, bacon and spaghetti, and mix well, then serve (ideally with plenty of garlic bread).

Something like that, anyway.

But, yes, if you're not Italian, then your take on Italian cooking will indeed be very, uh, non-Italian. Was discussing this with an Italian friend recently, and we agreed that, in Italy, pizzas (for instance) tend to be very basic (just two or three ingredients, all told), whereas in Britain we tend to throw on everything but the kitchen sink. I have a pizza recipe that I happen to think absolutely superb, although I wouldn't use it if I were having someone like Monica Bellucci round to dinner.

[Scrambled Eggs]

[quote name='Alessandra' date='29 November 2005 - 16:39'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='29 November 2005 - 17:29'][quote name='Alessandra' date='29 November 2005 - 09:32']Very funny.. but I would never cook Carbonara for Bond.. too unrefined.[/quote]
You sure as heck would if he asked for it!

A wise woman knows never to argue with a hungry man!

[/quote]

Well we weren't talking about requests (and I highly doubt Bond would ever ask for a carbonara, I mean, seriously!! Dom Perignon gets on ZERO with Carbonara! And Bond isn't a coal miner.. he's Bond! lol )
We were talking about what out of my own initiative I would cook for Bond.
And carbonara is not included, just as amatriciana is not included. And not even lasagne. Too unrefined, too basic.
Refined Italian cuisine is onto far more delicate tastes. Savoury, but with more delicate and "recherch

[Alessandra]

Bond isn't Italian. To him, Pancetta is quite an exclusive ingredient (you realise how expensive it is in this country? Same with real parmesan).
He's on record as liking a bit of eggs and cream.
I reckon a carbonara would be right up his alley.

I don't think so.
Bond is a connaisseur of refined foods, it's one of his characteristics..and one of the things which makes him so appealing! he always knows his stuff, he's been to Italy lots of times, and knows about the food!
so he for sure would know that pancetta is FAR from being a refined food!
If Bond were merely like any other English tourist here, he wouldn't be Bond. He knows better. No Carbonara, sorry..!!

[Dalton's Wendy]

[quote name='Alessandra' date='29 November 2005 - 11:39'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='29 November 2005 - 17:29'][quote name='Alessandra' date='29 November 2005 - 09:32']Very funny.. but I would never cook Carbonara for Bond.. too unrefined.[/quote]
You sure as heck would if he asked for it!

A wise woman knows never to argue with a hungry man!

[/quote]

Well we weren't talking about requests (and I highly doubt Bond would ever ask for a carbonara, I mean, seriously!! Dom Perignon gets on ZERO with Carbonara! And Bond isn't a coal miner.. he's Bond! lol )
We were talking about what out of my own initiative I would cook for Bond.
And carbonara is not included, just as amatriciana is not included. And not even lasagne. Too unrefined, too basic.
Refined Italian cuisine is onto far more delicate tastes. Savoury, but with more delicate and "recherch

[Scrambled Eggs]

This particular conversaion originated with Scrambled Eggs' very valid suggestion that Bond might prefer, as a change of pace, a somewhat more domestic woman.

Not at all, not neccesarily domesticated, but perhaps older and dignified. I'm not sure how we ended up on Carbonara and smelling of cookies.

[Alessandra]

Hmmm.... carbonara is one of my favourite dishes. I have a great recipe, which is something along the lines of:

Cook a finely-chopped onion, add some streaky bacon, then leave aside. Prepare sauce by mixing four eggs with half a pint of double cream, a very generous amount of parmesan cheese (make sure it's real and good parmesan, obviously, and grate it yourself), and four cloves of garlic (crushed). Cook spaghetti for a few minutes or however long the packet tells ya, then drain and put it in a bowl that you've warmed in the oven till it's pretty darn hot. Add the onion and bacon. Pour sauce over the onion, bacon and spaghetti, and mix well, then serve (ideally with plenty of garlic bread).

Something like that, anyway.

But, yes, if you're not Italian, then your take on Italian cooking will indeed be very, uh, non-Italian. Was discussing this with an Italian friend recently, and we agreed that, in Italy, pizzas (for instance) tend to be very basic (just two or three ingredients, all told), whereas in Britain we tend to throw on everything but the kitchen sink. I have a pizza recipe that I happen to think absolutely superb, although I wouldn't use it if I were having someone like Monica Bellucci round to dinner.

A very, very good point your last. And yes on pizzas..I've been horrified by what I've seen abroad and was defined pizza!! lol
The basic rule of Italian cooking is: DON'T OVERDO IT. Don't put lots of ingredients.. in Italian we say "non pasticciare"!
Keep it simple and with a CLEAN taste. That's the basic rule of Italian cooking.
Which brings me to telling you: there's no onion in carbonara.. you don't use bacon, you use pancetta (bacon is smoked pancetta) which has a far less aggressive taste, and (eew) no garlic at all.
it's supposed to have (for four/five people) three reds and one white of eggs, two tablespoons of fresh cream, pancetta (not bacon) which you "sautee" in olive oil (and which has to be cut in little cubes) until it turns golden, parmesan cheese and roman pecorino for those who like it. A little bit of black pepper if liked.
That's it. See?? less ingredients.. as per what you and your friend were rightly saying!

[Dalton's Wendy]

Buona Sera Alessandra,

All I can say to you today is that the delectable, nae vivacious, Dalton's Wendy is 100% correct about the 2 things an Uomo requires!!!

Braveheart Uomo here doesn't mind if the food gets cold 


Ciao

See?

No one knows what a man wants . . . except a real man! (and Dalton's Delectable Wendy, of course! )

Adesso: andiamo al prossimo suggetto, Ale, Carissima! Baci-baci!

P.S. Thank you, Dr. Blockbuster! Are you certain you aren't a gynaecologist?

[Dalton's Wendy]

P.S.  Thank you, Dr. Blockbuster!  Are you certain you aren't a gynaecologist?

is that something athletic then?

In certain cultures, yes . . .

[Loomis]

The basic rule of Italian cooking is: DON'T OVERDO IT. Don't put lots of ingredients.. in Italian we say "non pasticciare"!
Keep it simple and with a CLEAN taste. That's the basic rule of Italian cooking.
Which brings me to telling you: there's no onion in carbonara.. you don't use bacon, you use pancetta (bacon is smoked pancetta) which has a far less aggressive taste, and (eew) no garlic at all.

No garlic at all?

"Non pasticciare" - the very words I live by. From now on, at least.

[WC]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

[Dalton's Wendy]

The basic rule of Italian cooking is: DON'T OVERDO IT. Don't put lots of ingredients.. in Italian we say "non pasticciare"!
Keep it simple and with a CLEAN taste. That's the basic rule of Italian cooking.
Which brings me to telling you: there's no onion in carbonara.. you don't use bacon, you use pancetta (bacon is smoked pancetta) which has a far less aggressive taste, and (eew) no garlic at all.

No garlic at all?

"Non pasticciare" - the very words I live by. From now on, at least.

Loomis, my dear: I use shallots; they are far less intense in taste than is garlic, much closer to an onion.

That's the wonderful thing about cooking: there are no rules etched in stone; just add whatever captures your fancy! After all, you are the one who is eating it.

[Dalton's Wendy]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

Agree wholeheartedly, Comrade Welshcat!

Let us move to another room in the house . . . (and I do not make reference to the room wherein is located the TV!)

[Scrambled Eggs]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

I blame myself. It started with Carbonara and moved on to Bond not liking the smell of cookies and preferring Porcini, or something.

Personally I think the idea of someone turning their nose up at Carbonara because it's a peasant dish sounds a bit effette and very unBondlike.

[Moore Not Less]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

C'mon, Welshcat. You should know by now that a Babes place is in the kitchen.

And the basic rule of Italian cooking is DON'T DO IT.

[Alessandra]

The basic rule of Italian cooking is: DON'T OVERDO IT. Don't put lots of ingredients.. in Italian we say "non pasticciare"!
Keep it simple and with a CLEAN taste. That's the basic rule of Italian cooking.
Which brings me to telling you: there's no onion in carbonara.. you don't use bacon, you use pancetta (bacon is smoked pancetta) which has a far less aggressive taste, and (eew) no garlic at all.

No garlic at all?

"Non pasticciare" - the very words I live by. From now on, at least.

lol
no, no garlic at all.
ok let's make a deal. next time I am over to England (I travel to our London office quite often) I will cook you a carbonara.. so you'll taste for yourself! how's that?
Ah, I knew you would like the phrase.. very Italian-style.
and yes let's move on to the next subject Wendy dear... (which would be PASSIAMO al prossimo argomento actually
I didn't want to spend so much time discussing food.. sorry!! It's that when I start.. I get carried away with the subject, being member of a family of chefs, food connaisseurs and restaurant owners!!

[Dalton's Wendy]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

C'mon, Welshcat. You should know by now that a Babes place is in the kitchen.

Oh! I knew some man would say that!!!

[Dalton's Wendy makes mental note to scratch MOORE, NOT LESS from her invitation list . . .]

Then again -- at least he didn't say barefoot! Okay, he's back on the list!

[Alessandra]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

C'mon, Welshcat. You should know by now that a Babes place is in the kitchen.

And the basic rule of Italian cooking is DON'T DO IT.

LOL Moore
I love being in the kitchen and I love cooking.. the whole thing started because I said it's not enough to just give something to eat to a man like Bond, but we must cook him something refined and special.
And yes, the basic rule is DON'T DO IT.. wanna add stuff to the recipe? DON'T DO IT! wanna add spices?? DON'T DO IT. that is not what Italian cuisine is. Simple, no extra flavour, and little spices.
Back to subject... I think a Bond girl had better direct the kitchen with authority, rather than make the cookies herself..or if she cooks herself, must be an outstanding cook.. and be able to get back to James after cooking smelling Chanel no.5 and not smelling kitchen flavours!!
Anyway.. back to my question a few posts ago.. Wendy dear you didn't reply on whether you think it is ok if Bond is DUMPED by a woman for a change.
I said no, and wouldn't like to see it..
uuh wait a minute... wasn't it you dumping Timothy Wendy??
that's why you're happily married with another man now!!

[Loomis]

Loomis, my dear: I use shallots; they are far less intense in taste than is garlic, much closer to an onion.

Shallots? In carbonara? No garlic? What's the world coming to?

Thanks for the advice, Alessandra and Wendy, but I think I'll keep on cooking carbonara the good old-fashioned British way. Never had any complaints, but then I've never inflicted it on any Italian ladies who'd know better. Like I say, if someone like Monica Bellucci ever comes round, I'll leave it to the professionals - Pizza Express!

And, Alessandra, I'd tell you how I do spaghetti bolognaise, but you've probably had enough for one day of "An Englishman Murders Italian Cooking", LOL.

[Moore Not Less]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

C'mon, Welshcat. You should know by now that a Babes place is in the kitchen.

And the basic rule of Italian cooking is DON'T DO IT.

LOL Moore
I love being in the kitchen and I love cooking.. the whole thing started because I said it's not enough to just give something to eat to a man like Bond, but we must cook him something refined and special.
And yes, the basic rule is DON'T DO IT.. wanna add stuff to the recipe? DON'T DO IT! wanna add spices?? DON'T DO IT. that is not what Italian cuisine is. Simple, no extra flavour, and little spices.
Back to subject... I think a Bond girl had better direct the kitchen with authority, rather than make the cookies herself..or if she cooks herself, must be an outstanding cook.. and be able to get back to James after cooking smelling Chanel no.5 and not smelling kitchen flavours!!
Anyway.. back to my question a few posts ago.. Wendy dear you didn't reply on whether you think it is ok if Bond is DUMPED by a woman for a change.
I said no, and wouldn't like to see it..
uuh wait a minute... wasn't it you dumping Timothy Wendy??
that's why you're happily married with another man now!!

So, you love being in the kitchen and you love cooking. Do you do it barefoot? I don't think Wendy dear does it barefoot?
Does that mean that I am off your invitation list as well?
I think I had better quit now, suddenly I feel like Bond in DAF when he is about to face Bambi & Thumper.
On the subject of the Bond girl directing the kitchen with authority. Hello, Stacey Sutton.

[WC]

Lol, I like how Alessandra keeps talking about different recipes, even when we're trying to move out of the kitchen!

[WC]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

C'mon, Welshcat. You should know by now that a Babes place is in the kitchen.

And the basic rule of Italian cooking is DON'T DO IT.

LOL Moore
I love being in the kitchen and I love cooking.. the whole thing started because I said it's not enough to just give something to eat to a man like Bond, but we must cook him something refined and special.
And yes, the basic rule is DON'T DO IT.. wanna add stuff to the recipe? DON'T DO IT! wanna add spices?? DON'T DO IT. that is not what Italian cuisine is. Simple, no extra flavour, and little spices.
Back to subject... I think a Bond girl had better direct the kitchen with authority, rather than make the cookies herself..or if she cooks herself, must be an outstanding cook.. and be able to get back to James after cooking smelling Chanel no.5 and not smelling kitchen flavours!!
Anyway.. back to my question a few posts ago.. Wendy dear you didn't reply on whether you think it is ok if Bond is DUMPED by a woman for a change.
I said no, and wouldn't like to see it..
uuh wait a minute... wasn't it you dumping Timothy Wendy??
that's why you're happily married with another man now!!

So, you love being in the kitchen and you love cooking. Do you do it barefoot? I don't think Wendy dear does it barefoot?

Stop conjuring up these sexy images! (Women barefoot, not the kitchen bit)

[WC]

Since when did this discussion turn into Babes in the Kitchen?

Agree wholeheartedly, Comrade Welshcat!

Let us move to another room in the house . . . (and I do not make reference to the room wherein is located the TV!)

Aaahhh, Wendy. You make me feel so Russian!

Yes, we should take this discussion to a room where one can get more comfy.

[Dalton's Wendy]

[quote name='Moore Not Less' date='29 November 2005 - 6:02 p.m.']So, you love being in the kitchen and you love cooking. Do you do it barefoot?

Edited by Dalton's Wendy, 30 November 2005 - 09:58 PM.

[Alessandra]

So, you love being in the kitchen and you love cooking. Do you do it barefoot?  I don't think Wendy dear does it barefoot? 
Does that mean that I am off your invitation list as well? 
I think I had better quit now, suddenly I feel like Bond in DAF when he is about to face Bambi & Thumper.
On the subject of the Bond girl directing the kitchen with authority. Hello, Stacey Sutton. 

ROTFL
Stacey Sutton here.
Is there supposed to be one of those subtle double entendre of yours in this barefoot kitchen question???
Obviously no, I don't cook barefoot, it isn't exactly hygienic to do so!
but I am barefoot while I cook in a beach barbecue! ahh don't even get me started on beach thoughts, I cannot stand winter!! bohoo.. I want summer. and a Caribbean beach with Bond NOW!
LOL so you feel like Bond in DAF?! but of course Wendy and I are no Bambi.. I'd say we are...Pocahontas instead? lol (resourceful women, that is!)
I'm wondering how Bond would like a beach barbecue with grilled seafood and lobster... hmmm... white gazebo.. table and everything set in white and blue.. I seriously should give Eon some advice on this.. LOL
Which prompts a question.. what is the Babes' favourite environment for a Bond scene? and for a Bond scene with a Babe?
Being a lover of the sea, I love exotic locations in general, and in particular when beach scenes are involved (Dr No, Goldeneye contain my favourites so far).
But I also enjoy the beautiful villas a la License to Kill (yes Wendy, I just know you picture yourself as the host, as in Mrs Dalton there! you'd be just perfect, I'm sure!), and boat locations. (Yes, again, sea-related).
If I had to choose a setting not on sea... definitely Casinos!
How about you hunks and Babes? Give us your thoughts!

[WC]

So, you love being in the kitchen and you love cooking. Do you do it barefoot?  I don't think Wendy dear does it barefoot? 
Does that mean that I am off your invitation list as well? 
I think I had better quit now, suddenly I feel like Bond in DAF when he is about to face Bambi & Thumper.
On the subject of the Bond girl directing the kitchen with authority. Hello, Stacey Sutton. 

ROTFL
Stacey Sutton here.
Is there supposed to be one of those subtle double entendre of yours in this barefoot kitchen question???
Obviously no, I don't cook barefoot, it isn't exactly hygienic to do so!
but I am barefoot while I cook in a beach barbecue! ahh don't even get me started on beach thoughts, I cannot stand winter!! bohoo.. I want summer. and a Caribbean beach with Bond NOW!

And I suppose you'd like a scene where you step on a jellyfish then Bond has to suck it out of your foot? "I've never tasted woman before...they're quite good."