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[hcmv007]

What I mean by naive is someone who does not see the evil in her father/lover/whatever organization she loves/works until Bond is able to allow her to connect the dots. Loneliness is the way she carries herself, Bond can see that she is missing something, and that he is the only man who can fill that void in her life. Maybe a close friend or relative of hers died and Bond could then offer her comfort.

Thanks for passing on that memo, Welshcat!

To Scrambled Eggs-very good point, I always see Bond in his thirties, maybe he would go for a woman in her 40's, but on film, it might not fly. Maybe a single mother in her 20's-30's. I am working on a fan fic similar to that right now btw.

[Hitch]

Scramblers, not only have you opened Pandora's Box, you've turned it upside down and given it a good shake.

[Lady Rose]

[quote name='Alessandra' date='28 November 2005 - 16:48'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='28 November 2005 - 17:28'][quote]Nah, Bond wouldn't be too difficult to live with, Mr M, sweetie.

It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.

[Dalton's Wendy]

Here's something that occured to me today.

Bond's parents died when he was very young, if you were going to psychoanalyse him you'd suggest that his serial monogamy is the embodiment of his constant search for the female affection he missed out on as a child.

So, mightn't Bond be partial to a mothering type? A woman who could comfort the poor lost boy inside him?

A glamourous, sophisticated, experienced yet caring older woman might be the ideal Bond girl for the 21st century?

Your theory happens to be an extremely sound and valid one, SCRAMBLED EGGS, my dear friend!

Unfortunately, I happen to be unavailable at the moment . . . (well, did you think I could ever be allowed to run around loose for any length of time? )

[WC]

It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.  Show up naked.

2.  Fix him something to eat.

Hey, if Judi Dench turns up at Bond's apartment in the middle of the night (a la Live And Let Die) in nothing but a chef's hat and a cooking apron and says "Bangers and mash, or do you prefer your sausage raw?" I somehow doubt that Bond will reply "M, a feast for my eyes!"

[Mr Malcolm]

It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.  Show up naked.

2.  Fix him something to eat.

Hey, if Judi Dench turns up at Bond's apartment in the middle of the night (a la Live And Let Die) in nothing but a chef's hat and a cooking apron and says "Bangers and mash, or do you prefer your sausage raw?" I somehow doubt that Bond will reply "M, a feast for my eyes!"

Does it work the other way, Wendy m'dear? Just curious.

[Dalton's Wendy]

[quote name='Welshcat' date='28 November 2005 - 14:02'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='28 November 2005 - 16:28']It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.

[Lady Rose]

[quote name='Mr Malcolm' date='28 November 2005 - 19:07'][quote name='Welshcat' date='28 November 2005 - 19:02'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='28 November 2005 - 16:28']It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.

[Dalton's Wendy]

[quote name='Mr Malcolm' date='28 November 2005 - 14:07'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='28 November 2005 - 16:28']It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.

[Mr Malcolm]

It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.  Show up naked.

2.  Fix him something to eat.

Does it work the other way, Wendy m'dear? Just curious.

You bet your life it does, Mr M., Baby!

In the case of myself, he would not even have to bother cooking -- just bring a magnum of Dom!

I'll have to try that sometime then...with bolognaise sauce!

[Dalton's Wendy]

I'll have to try that sometime then...with bolognaise sauce!

Excellent choice, Mr M., Sweetie!

Somehow, I just know that the chef will receive lots of compliments!

[Scrambled Eggs]

To Scrambled Eggs-very good point, I always see Bond in his thirties, maybe he would go for a woman in her 40's, but on film, it might not fly.  Maybe a single mother in her 20's-30's.  I am working on a fan fic similar to that right now btw.

You know what? I wasn't being 100% serious when I posted that, but now I've ruminated on it a little bit more I think it could really fly on screen.

It would be an interesting twist to the formula and would work well with this idea of Craig being a new Bond establishing his persona.

Also, EON would have their pick of actresses. Every Hollywodd actress over 40 would want the role of the older woman who seduces James Bond.

Rene Russo springs to mind.

So does Emmanuelle Beart.

Uma Thurman would be absolutely perfect for such a role in 3-5 years or so.

Look forward to the fanfic hcmv007.

[Scrambled Eggs]

Scramblers, not only have you opened Pandora's Box, you've turned it upside down and given it a good shake.

I tried to, unfortunately D'sW was too much of a lady to take the bait.

[Dalton's Wendy]

Scramblers, not only have you opened Pandora's Box, you've turned it upside down and given it a good shake.

I tried to, unfortunately D'sW was too much of a lady to take the bait.

Thank you, S.E., Darling! You have made my day!

(Now, I just hope you do not change your opinion of me after you read my next post . . . )

[Dalton's Wendy]

Here's something that occured to me today.

Bond's parents died when he was very young, if you were going to psychoanalyse him you'd suggest that his serial monogamy is the embodiment of his constant search for the female affection he missed out on as a child.

This is truly an excellent posit, SCRAMBLED EGGS, and it really deserves much more of a considered response than that flip one which I gave it earlier (but you know me -- Dalton's Naughty Wendy can never resist an opening! )

Yes; I concur with your theory. It is further possible that Bond resents the fact that he missed many formative years of maternal affection; he may even subconsciously resent his mother for having deserted him -- although the desertion was hardly of her own volition. And, because of this latent resentment, Bond often finds it necessary to lash out at as many females as he can, by seducing and thus, conquering them.

So, mightn't Bond be partial to a mothering type? A woman who could comfort the poor lost boy inside him?

Again, yes: I believe he would respond quite favourably to this sort of attention. After all, he has been on his own, for so many years now, he might well find that he enjoys the kind of pampering which an experienced beauty would lavish on him.

A glamourous, sophisticated, experienced yet caring older woman might be the ideal Bond girl for the 21st century?

Y'know, S.E., the more I think about it . . . maybe I could arrange to be available for a few months!

[Scrambled Eggs]

Scramblers, not only have you opened Pandora's Box, you've turned it upside down and given it a good shake.

I tried to, unfortunately D'sW was too much of a lady to take the bait.

Thank you, S.E., Darling! You have made my day!

(Now, I just hope you do not change your opinion of me after you read my next post . . . )

Not at all, I'm quite happy to stand by that particular remark.

[Dalton's Wendy]

What I mean by naive is someone who does not see the evil in her father/lover/whatever organization she loves/works until Bond is able to allow her to connect the dots.  Loneliness is the way she carries herself, Bond can see that she is missing something, and that he is the only man who can fill that void in her life.  Maybe a close friend or relative of hers died and Bond could then offer her comfort.

I understood your intent with regard to the characteristic of the ideal female for Bond being naive, hcmv007. I believe you were thinking along the lines of the woman's being credulous and trusting, not naive in the sense of being inexperienced and grren.

As to her loneliness, she is solitary by choice, yes? That is a quality which is often very attractive to a man, particularly to an intelligent one, such as is Bond. It can be very irritating to be attached to someone who constantly requires the company of other people (and insists on dragging her guy to a black-tie gala after he's hard a tough day at MI6!)

[Alessandra]

[quote name='Lady Rose' date='28 November 2005 - 19:17']1. Show up in La Perla ready to get properly naked. (and with a perfectly toned and fit body)

If I turned up in La Perla and got properly naked I would be in a whole heap of trouble seeing as its the name of the coffee shop I go to most mornings !

Edited by Alessandra, 28 November 2005 - 09:29 PM.

[Lady Rose]

[quote name='Alessandra' date='28 November 2005 - 21:25'][quote name='Lady Rose' date='28 November 2005 - 19:17']1. Show up in La Perla ready to get properly naked. (and with a perfectly toned and fit body)

If I turned up in La Perla and got properly naked I would be in a whole heap of trouble seeing as its the name of the coffee shop I go to most mornings !

[Alessandra]

[quote name='Mr Malcolm' date='28 November 2005 - 20:07'][quote name='Welshcat' date='28 November 2005 - 19:02'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='28 November 2005 - 16:28']It's very easy to keep a man such as James Bond happy, since there are only two things required for a female to achieve this felicitous state of affairs:

1.

[Dalton's Wendy]

"hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Oh wait, my cookies are burning". Is this the Bond girl's dialogue??

If she happens to be built like me, and dressed as I am, and scented as I am, while I am baking . . . you bet your sweet cookie-dough it is!

Always remember . . . it's not what you say -- it's how you say it!

Also how cute and fetching your bottom looks, as you are scampering toward the kitchen!

[Dalton's Wendy]

Ale, Cara -- one more thought:

Which type does Brad Pitt prefer at the moment? It appears to be the one who has two toddlers crawling around the house.

[Alessandra]

[quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='29 November 2005 - 09:23']Ale, Cara -- one more thought:

Which type does Brad Pitt prefer at the moment?

Edited by Alessandra, 29 November 2005 - 01:11 PM.

[Alessandra]

I know exactly what you are talking about Alessandra and my girlfriends and I always say we are going to 'The Knicker Shop' when we are going for coffee.

It has occurred to me that Italians like to have a little joke ... There is a very nice restaurant that I have gone to for years that I have always thought was quite smart. It is called Signor Baffi. Well, I thought it was smart until my Italian friend pointed out to me it was actually called 'Mr Moustache'. Needless to say, it was never quite the same after that. 

ROTFL
Wonderful story Lady Rose!!
I always laugh when I'm in the U.S. or abroad when I see the names of Italian restaurants or anything which supposedly should be Italian because it ends with a vowel and the name "looks" Italian. (Same applies to English names over here in Italy of course, I just laugh at how ridiculous they are over here, they think if they use anything vaguely English sounding people will just go!)
I can guarantee you that nobody would ever even DREAM to call a restaurant "signor Baffi" here! lol. It just sounds weird and inappropriate for a restaurant. They could just call it "Baffi" if that was the last name. not a very common one, though. and it INDEED means moustache, so people wouldn't really be very encouraged to go there! lol
Tbere again, I went to a restaurant in Barcelona which was absolutely fantastic and uber chic... and the name was "Taxidermista", which means the taxidermist, or "embalmer".. EEWW!! lol and still, it was fantastic!
but it's called like that because there used to be a very famous, ancient shop of people who embalmed animals there.. and Salvador Dali was a huge client of the shop, took a picture of himself in the Placa Reial over a stuffed rhinoceros from the shop
So.. maybe the moustache of Signor Baffi have a special story??? (afraid not, but hey, just trying'!!)

[Scrambled Eggs]

"hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Oh wait, my cookies are burning". Is this the Bond girl's dialogue??

No, it'd be more "hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Now, can i tempt you with some of my delicious creamy Carbonara mio cara James?"

Some other candidates.

Kristin Scott Thomas

Monica Bellucci (she's 41 already! Who'd have thought)

[WC]

"hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Oh wait, my cookies are burning". Is this the Bond girl's dialogue??

If she happens to be built like me, and dressed as I am, and scented as I am, while I am baking . . . you bet your sweet cookie-dough it is!

As long as the female isn't built like the Pilsbury Dough girl!

[Alessandra]

"hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Oh wait, my cookies are burning". Is this the Bond girl's dialogue??

No, it'd be more "hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Now, can i tempt you with some of my delicious creamy Carbonara mio cara James?"

Some other candidates.

Kristin Scott Thomas

Monica Bellucci (she's 41 already! Who'd have thought)

LOL
Very funny.. but I would never cook Carbonara for Bond.. too unrefined.
I'd go for homemade tagliatelle with fresh porcini (the best variety of fresh mushrooms, directly gathered in our woods by my dad!)

[Streetworker]

Here's something that occured to me today.

Bond's parents died when he was very young, if you were going to psychoanalyse him you'd suggest that his serial monogamy is the embodiment of his constant search for the female affection he missed out on as a child.

So, mightn't Bond be partial to a mothering type? A woman who could comfort the poor lost boy inside him?

Well, he did wonder if he appealed to Pussy's maternal instincts...

[Scrambled Eggs]

"hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Oh wait, my cookies are burning". Is this the Bond girl's dialogue??

No, it'd be more "hey! hands off from my gun! there! (pow! kick!). Now, can i tempt you with some of my delicious creamy Carbonara mio cara James?"

Some other candidates.

Kristin Scott Thomas

Monica Bellucci (she's 41 already! Who'd have thought)

LOL
Very funny.. but I would never cook Carbonara for Bond.. too unrefined.
I'd go for homemade tagliatelle with fresh porcini (the best variety of fresh mushrooms, directly gathered in our woods by my dad!)

I am shocked. What's unrefined about Carbonara? Fresh porcini does sound good though.

[Alessandra]

[quote name='Scrambled Eggs' date='29 November 2005 - 15:46']

Edited by Alessandra, 29 November 2005 - 03:47 PM.