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[DamnCoffee]

I'm gonna see this one next thursday. I cannot wait.

[Matt_13]

Going midnight tonight . Can't wait!

[Johnboy007]

I will probably see this on Sunday. Hopefully it will live up to all this hype.

Has anyone listened to Zimmer's score all the way through? Is it any good or is it as bland as Batman Begins?

[Harmsway]

I'm seeing THE DARK KNIGHT tonight at midnight. Can't wait.

But I'm also excited to see the new trailer for WATCHMEN (aka "The Greatest Graphic Novel Ever Written") with it as well. I got to see it on youtube here, but the youtube quality doesn't come close to doing its visuals justice.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Ditto. 9 hrs...

off subject for a sec; This is hilarious:

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[Harmsway]

Has anyone listened to Zimmer's score all the way through? Is it any good or is it as bland as Batman Begins?

I've given it a lot of listening time. 80% of the score is thematic material from BEGINS that's just been redone with more impressive orchestrations (even Harvey Dent's theme isn't new material, just tweaked material from BEGINS). The other 15% is new, but forgettable, mush. Then there's the 5% that's the new Joker theme, "Why So Serious," which is a pretty great.

[freemo]

I loved it. I'll probably go see it again.

Heath Ledger was amazing. I'd say he was the best thing about it.

There's a lot of material in the film, but it never feels like too much. And it's not too long by any means. If anything, I think it could have gone for 3 hours. An extra half about just to maybe flesh out a couple of the subplots more and draw the tension out a little more.

My one concern of sorts going into it was that I thought the story of Two Face needed to be it's own movie, as opposed to say part (albeit an integral part) of a larger narrative, for one to really "feel" the tragedy of it. Although I'm still not sure I don't think that (I wish Dent had been in it a little more, both before and after you-know-what), it all comes together very nicely.

Overall, terrific.

[The Dove]

Oh boy loads of positive reviews!! Man I can't wait!! I will definitely be seeing it this weekend!!! Meanwhile, when I get home tonight, I'm putting on Batman Begins to whet my appitite even more!!

[sharpshooter]

Has anyone listened to Zimmer's score all the way through? Is it any good or is it as bland as Batman Begins?

I've given it a lot of listening time. 80% of the score is thematic material from BEGINS that's just been redone with more impressive orchestrations (even Harvey Dent's theme isn't new material, just tweaked material from BEGINS). The other 15% is new, but forgettable, mush. Then there's the 5% that's the new Joker theme, "Why So Serious," which is a pretty great.

Having listened heavily to TDK soundtrack, I can say it is satisfactory. I only like Why So Serious, A Little Push and Like A Dog Chasing Cars in their entirety.

Why So Serious is a great way to start the soundtrack and is a very good track for The Joker. Like A Dog Chasing Cars is the only real heroic theme in the soundtrack. It ends with some segments of the two note Joker theme that I think is a good touch. This is my favourite of all the tracks. I like A Little Push as well; it begins with hissing that builds anticipation, then flat lines into a crackling, thunderderish and unstable sound. It then moves into a deep dread filled echo, and ends the track in a quiet sinister motif.

The rest of the soundtrack I like segments of. For example, there are elements of the Why So Serious arrangement spliced here and there throughout the score. Other sinister sounds not associated with it, but obviously belonging to the Joker also feature. For example, the long wailing siren that builds suspense heard in Agent of Chaos for instance, the siren with clanging over the top of it in the Always A Catch opening.

The soundtrack works for the film and creates the atmosphere. This soundtrack is about implication and menace. It just isn't really made to be listened to on its own. In the film is when it comes to life.

[killkenny kid]

Going midnight tonight . Can't wait!

On my way out the door right now!

[Mr. Blofeld]

Going midnight tonight . Can't wait!

On my way out the door right now!

You lucky buggers; I'm stuck with not going 'til Saturday...

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Those IMBD reviews are clearly informed by bitterness and a desire to shock, but come on guys, dissenting opinions are allowed.

Hard to respect an opinion when it’s sooo transparent that it is motivated by bitterness and a desire to shock (to satisfy a childish need for attention and a sense of power in creating disturbance, no doubt).

I am certainly not fearful to read an intelligent criticism, if one should ever be leveled at the film. Looking forward to it, in fact.

I'll give it a shot

Spoiler

There was one point where the audience burst into laughter where they weren't supposed to: when Bruce Wayne digitally restored the bullet AND the finger print on it. Then there's the imagining of a whole city by mobile phones equipped with SONAR.

Sure, this is to merely get to the next point in the film in a timely manner, but surely Nolan could've thought of something better (ie less groan worthy) to lead Batman to the next plot point.

On a different topic but still spoiler heavey: One thing I really enjoyed about The Dark Knight is how well Havery Dent's decent to Two Face was handled, but it seems wasteful to kill him off after about 30 minutes of screen time, especially with Ledger gone. I guess no one can answer this, but is Two Face really gone for good? It just seems like a missed opportunity to establish a character so well and end it scenes later.

[sharpshooter]

Spoiler

I’m not willing to write off Two Face just yet. It is sort of left up in the air and open to interpretation. The last we see of him he is laying arms wide open on the ground. Batman fell roughly the same height and survived. Sure, he was wearing his new batsuit. We don’t see what happens in between the City wake, not funeral, and when Batman drives off in the batpod away from the police.

It could well be another twist. In Dark Victory, Joker shoots Dent and he falls off a cliff in the Batcave, only later to reveal he survived. The caption reads " Alfred called it once "A world without Harvey Dent." "It is a better world for that."

A novel called Batman Inferno set after TDK says Dent is alive and well, getting treatment at Arkham Asylum. It just depends if that is considered canon. Even if he is dead, I'm very satisfied with Eckhart's Two Face. He thrashes Tommy Lee Jones by a mile. His scarred side of his face is graphic and confronting, how it should be.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I'm gonna pass on the midnight showing...but I'll see it tommorow at 2ish instead.

[Harmsway]

Wow. Just wow. THE DARK KNIGHT really is all that they say. My expectations were through the roof, and they were exceeded. Wonderful film.

[Single-O-Seven]

Enjoyed it very much. Well done. Ledger was certainly a joy to watch, but I can't help but wonder how they'll tie up the loose ends of his character in future films.

[sharpshooter]

Wow. Just wow. THE DARK KNIGHT really is all that they say. My expectations were through the roof, and they were exceeded. Wonderful film.

Just like me. It is impossible to resist this outstanding film.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Lucky, lucky. lucky...

[killkenny kid]

Wow. Just wow. THE DARK KNIGHT really is all that they say. My expectations were through the roof, and they were exceeded. Wonderful film.

Indeed, at the end of this film, I look at my brother and said "That was the Batman, I have been waiting 52 years for".

[DR76]

Enjoyed it very much. Well done. Ledger was certainly a joy to watch, but I can't help but wonder how they'll tie up the loose ends of his character in future films.

Get another actor. Besides, I hear that Nolan is only willing to do three BATMAN films.

[Andrew]

Get another actor.

Good luck finding an actor who wants to follow THAT.

[Harmsway]

Get another actor.

Good luck finding an actor who wants to follow THAT.

Yeah.

I was toying with the idea of recasting the part before seeing the film. Now that I've seen it... well, Nolan can't recast. It wouldn't work.

[Andrew]

It really is tragic too because

Spoiler

The Joker's final speech to Batman about how they could do this forever was the PERFECT Joker moment of the film for me. That speech defined the Joker/Batman relationship and you can clearly see that Nolan wanted that relationship to continue.

[Loomis]

Oh, now this is just getting ridiculous. THE DARK KNIGHT is already at number four on the IMDb's 250 top movies list!!!!!!!!

http://www.imdb.com/...t/top?tt0468569

Here's the top ten:

1. 9.1 The Godfather (1972)
2. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
3. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974)
4. 9.0 The Dark Knight (2008)
5. 8.9 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966)
6. 8.9 Pulp Fiction (1994)
7. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993)
8. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
9. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
10. 8.8 Casablanca (1942)

Right then, I may be ignorant but I'm not stupid, so.... what's the catch? Should we all just surrender to THE DARK KNIGHT right away? I mean, is it the greatest thing since sliced bread? Is resistance futile?

[Johnboy007]

I would give it time. Return of the King was in the top ten for ages, but has mercifully dropped down in rank.

A pity that hasn't caught on with Pulp Fiction yet.

[Andrew]

Oh, now this is just getting ridiculous. THE DARK KNIGHT is already at number four on the IMDb's 250 top movies list!!!!!!!!

http://www.imdb.com/...t/top?tt0468569

Here's the top ten:

1. 9.1 The Godfather (1972)
2. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
3. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974)
4. 9.0 The Dark Knight (2008)
5. 8.9 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966)
6. 8.9 Pulp Fiction (1994)
7. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993)
8. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
9. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
10. 8.8 Casablanca (1942)

Right then, I may be ignorant but I'm not stupid, so.... what's the catch? Should we all just surrender to THE DARK KNIGHT right away? I mean, is it the greatest thing since sliced bread? Is resistance futile?

Hey Loomis. perhaps I missed it but what are your thoughts on TDK? If I remember correctly, you weren't impressed with BEGINS. Are you planning on seeing TDK?

[Harmsway]

THE DARK KNIGHT's IMDB rating is clearly ridiculous. But that whole IMDB top 10 is ridiculous.

[Loomis]

Hey Loomis. perhaps I missed it but what are your thoughts on TDK? If I remember correctly, you weren't impressed with BEGINS. Are you planning on seeing TDK?

Yes. I expect I'll see it next week when it opens in Britain.

No, I'm not a BEGINS fan (although it certainly has its moments), or a Batman fan. I detest superhero movies. But I'm looking forward to THE DARK KNIGHT because I'm led to believe that - to geekishly quote some dialogue from BEGINS - it's Something Else Entirely™. I gather that it's an incredibly amazing piece of dark, involving drama that just happens to be a superhero movie, in much the same way as CASINO ROYALE surprised many people by being far more than they'd ever expected of a Bond film. Only much more so. Given all the rave reviews, I'm anticipating a mindblowing work of art that will end up changing the course of civilisation.

However, I'm sure that, once I've seen THE DARK KNIGHT, I'll be overflowing with gripes. "Too long", "Nolan can't direct action", "Not as good as x, y and z", etc., etc.

Really, I'm not the target viewer for this flick. For one thing, like I say, I loathe the superhero genre. But I'm curious to see whether THE DARK KNIGHT is good enough to bend me to its will anyway. It's more than possible that I'll leave the cinema wondering what all the fuss was about, just as I did with BEGINS (which was also praised to the skies by critics, as I recall).

On the other hand, enough people are saying that THE DARK KNIGHT is enough of a vast improvement on BEGINS (which is a film I do quite like - "quite" being the operative word) for me to hold out hope that it'll seduce me after all. Anyhoo, we'll soon see.

[Andrew]

I think it would probably be best to ignore the reviews going into it. If you're not a huge Batman fan and you're expecting a masterpiece, you may walk out a bit disappointed. BEGINS was praised by critics but no where to the level that this film was.

[[dark]]

Oh, now this is just getting ridiculous. THE DARK KNIGHT is already at number four on the IMDb's 250 top movies list!!!!!!!!

http://www.imdb.com/...t/top?tt0468569

Here's the top ten:

1. 9.1 The Godfather (1972)
2. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
3. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974)
4. 9.0 The Dark Knight (2008)
5. 8.9 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966)
6. 8.9 Pulp Fiction (1994)
7. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993)
8. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
9. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
10. 8.8 Casablanca (1942)

Right then, I may be ignorant but I'm not stupid, so.... what's the catch? Should we all just surrender to THE DARK KNIGHT right away? I mean, is it the greatest thing since sliced bread? Is resistance futile?

I imagine that'll drop once the dust settles, but it really is a cracking film - and almost certainly the film of the year. It'll drop, but I think it'll safely remain in the top 100, if not higher.

Put your superhero movie prejudices aside, Loomis, as The Dark Knight is a movie about ordinary people. This isn't a world with radioactive spiders or hi-tech iron suits or whatever caused the Hulk to get all green 'n' angry - it may well be the real world.