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The Dark Knight (2008)


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#1111 Vauxhall

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:00 PM

:tup: Another bad review on IMDb.

I wouldn't worry about these one iota. These people obviously just have significantly large chips on their shoulders about something or other. It's clear from all the professional reviews that THE DARK KNIGHT is a fantastic piece of cinema.

I'm very excited by Icephoenix's review! Only 8 days left...

#1112 The Dove

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:01 PM

:tup: Another bad review on IMDb.



Dumb film with a forgettable actor, namely Heath ledger


One of the most over-hyped over-rated rehashed remade Batman film in years. Even the great actors couldn't lift this mediocre and predictable film. Heath Ledger puts in a forgettable performance in a highly forgettable film. No doubt Australia's simple minds will rejoice in his silly, easy and hammy role. Its good business for the Motion Picture to give him an Oscar fro his dumb performance as Ledger put in a great publicity campaign for the film. Batman fans are similar to fifty year old Abba fans both embarrassingly one dimensional and possessed of a simplistic over-adulation of superficial and artificial no-talent icons.

This film is what the BUSINESS side of the International film business is all about a formulated and contrived marketing formula involving action heroes simple plots and great CGI for a captive market and its need to indulge in escapism for mental gratification. I am so glad I do not have to pay to see most films because of Industry contacts. two and half stars for its production values and nothing else.



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Hmm might I suggest that the cretin who wrote this crap review, go and see the latest Eddie Murphy bomb, Meet Dave, and then come back and tell us again that The Dark Knight sucks!! LOL :tup:

#1113 Andrew

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:03 PM

I think there's a lot of people that just want to be different so they go into the film with a negative mindset and there's nothing that can change that. It's unfortunate but it happens. Trust me, I've done it before unfortunately.

It also seems that the few official reviews that are negative come from reviewers that seem to have awful taste. I believe one guy who bashed TDK referred to I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry as a modern classic and slammed Daniel Day Lewis' performance in There Will Be Blood. I also think there's a lot of people that just don't "get" Batman and expect something similar to Adam West or they're so blinded by their love for Tim Burton's Batman that they cannot accept anything different.

Still though, a great majority of the reviews have been extremely positive, especially the respected reviewers like Roeper, Ebert, Levy, and Travers.

#1114 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 08:32 PM

Alot of people hate Titanic because it was such a huge success, which is of course un-cool-hip-cutting edge-goth...etc.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 09:31 PM

I do think it's questionable that these folks even saw THE DARK KNIGHT.

But given the hype, a DARK KNIGHT backlash is inevitable. There's going to be a lot of venom spewed at that film after its release.

#1116 DaveBond21

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 10:41 PM

This morning's Sydney Daily Telegraph gives it 4 out of 5, and says that Heath Ledger's Joker steals the show, making Christian Bale's Batman look a little bland.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 10:45 PM

This morning's Sydney Daily Telegraph gives it 4 out of 5, and says that Heath Ledger's Joker steals the show, making Christian Bale's Batman look a little bland.

Well that's nothing new. He's the Joker. He makes everyone look a little bland.

#1118 DaveBond21

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:05 PM

How come Australia is getting to see it early?


And why can't that happen with Bond movies!!!???

#1119 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:10 PM

http://rogerebert.su...EVIEWS/55996637

Ebert: ****

Not a shock. He loves Batman, is a chicago guy and is usually soft on summer movies.

#1120 gkgyver

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:26 PM

I wanted to see this today, as I checked my local Cinestar website and saw they had a showing on Wednesday ... today I wanted to book my ticket, an to my great shock I didn't read the small print: it's Wednesday, but AUGUST the 20th!

WTF? How can they afford it to release this thing a MONTH later internationally?

#1121 Blofeld's Cat

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:20 AM

How come Australia is getting to see it early?


And why can't that happen with Bond movies!!!???


Was thinking the same thing.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:17 AM

These IMDb reviews are total trash. Having seen the film yesterday, it is impossible to score it an insane 1/10.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 02:12 AM

Agreed, I really don't think those 'reviewers' on IMDB have actually seen the film and just seem to be trying to wind people up. Needless to say, there is nothing to be concerned about.

I still can't believe how good it was! I went in with high-expectations and even then The Dark Knight completely blew them away!

I'm seeing it again tomorrow and probably once more next week.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 02:15 AM

I still can't believe how good it was! I went in with high-expectations and even then The Dark Knight completely blew them away!

Yep. The Dark Knight didn't just live up to my high expectations, it broke through them like a bat out of hell!

#1125 Professor Dent

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 02:30 AM

I saw a Dark Knight banner outside the local IMAX theater today. :tup: I don't care what the reviewers say, I'm going to enjoy this one.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:25 AM

Given the fact that Batman Begins is partly responsible for the level of quality we got in Casino Royale. And many Bond fans are also Batman fans, I hope it's okay to start a thread about the latest Batman film 'The Dark Knight'. I was lucky enough to see a preview of this film this evening. And to be frank I was very disapointed. Batman/Bruce Wayne is hardly in the film at all, and when he was the character wasn't as fleshed out.

Just as a word of advice, I wouldn't exactly kill myself to see this film. I am far more looking forwards to seeing 'A Quantum of Solace'.

Edited by Emma, 17 July 2008 - 04:25 AM.


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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:31 AM

There's a thread going on about it in General Discussion...though Batman keeps popping up in just about every other thread round here too, for some reason!

#1128 Jim

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:09 AM

I hope it's okay to start a thread about the latest Batman film 'The Dark Knight'.


Merged with the 38 page thread that's been on the front page since the dawn of time.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:54 PM

Given the fact that Batman Begins is partly responsible for the level of quality we got in Casino Royale. And many Bond fans are also Batman fans, I hope it's okay to start a thread about the latest Batman film 'The Dark Knight'. I was lucky enough to see a preview of this film this evening. And to be frank I was very disapointed. Batman/Bruce Wayne is hardly in the film at all, and when he was the character wasn't as fleshed out.

Just as a word of advice, I wouldn't exactly kill myself to see this film. I am far more looking forwards to seeing 'A Quantum of Solace'.


Considering your opinion on Craig and that ridiculous thread comparing Hitman to CR, I now know I'll love this film due to your comments.

Sometimes it's so hard to believe someone could be on such a different page to you but it seems your opinion is that to me.

I'm sorry but the other guys gushing over this and your very brief synopsis!

Guess who I'm gonna believe?

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:18 PM

I have seen The Dark Knight and hereby declare it to be possibly the greatest superhero movie ever.

That said, I'm reluctant to even use that tag as, like Casino Royale often never felt like the Bond films we knew, The Dark Knight seldom feels like a Batman film - and never like a so-called superhero picture.

We're a million miles from the worlds of Iron Man or Spider-man - and arguably even further from that of the 80s and 90s-era Batman films.

Gotham could be any city; its residents could be anyone. Everyone (bar the Joker, who is portrayed here as someone who revels in chaos and fears nothing - he's fully-formed with an ambiguous past that is not at all explained) is cast in shades of grey, from Harvey Dent (an excellent Aaron Eckhart, whose alter ego needs to be seen to be believed) to Batman himself (facing numerous dilemmas, all of which are convincingly conceived and executed).

Without the origin story that divided Batman Begins in two, The Dark Knight hits the ground running with a thrilling bank robbery and doesn't let up for its beefy (but not bloated) two-and-a-half-hour runtime.

Few criticisms can be levelled at such a cerebral yet thrilling summer blockbuster - it's demanding, thought-provoking, exciting and memorable. Extra points are deserved for a brave Empire Strikes Back-esque ending that begs for a third film to be made.

The only sadness is knowing Ledger's Joker (every bit as brilliant as the hype makes out) won't be a part of it.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:44 PM

Without the origin story that divided Batman Begins in two, The Dark Knight hits the ground running with a thrilling bank robbery and doesn't let up for its beefy (but not bloated) two-and-a-half-hour runtime.


I agree. One of the thing's I was worried about coming into the film was it's massive runtime - concerned that toward the end I would be squirming in my seat and swearing at myself for drinking too much coke. But the hours just flew by and I found myself thinking 'please never end!'.

A thoroughly good cinema-going experience. :tup:

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:50 PM

Given the fact that Batman Begins is partly responsible for the level of quality we got in Casino Royale. And many Bond fans are also Batman fans, I hope it's okay to start a thread about the latest Batman film 'The Dark Knight'. I was lucky enough to see a preview of this film this evening. And to be frank I was very disapointed. Batman/Bruce Wayne is hardly in the film at all, and when he was the character wasn't as fleshed out.

Just as a word of advice, I wouldn't exactly kill myself to see this film. I am far more looking forwards to seeing 'A Quantum of Solace'.


Just one tiny question.. when did they change the title of Bond 22 from "Quantum of Solace" to "A Quantum of Solace"? :tup:

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:50 PM

The only sadness is knowing Ledger's Joker (every bit as brilliant as the hype makes out) won't be a part of it.

True. It is a massive tragedy he will never reprise this role. Nobody will beat him, and they’d be a fool to try. It is the benchmark - the definitive portrayal on screen and will be the thing of legends.

After watching the film I felt the enormity of Ledger’s loss even more. His career would have exploded after this. I didn’t cry or feel sad when he was on screen, he made me smile. I turned to the person next to me and they were as well. He had electricity running through his body, he was bubbling with insanity and dark wit. He was dangerous, I truly felt this man could bring the City to its knees. It was a magnificent celebration of his work. Heath, wherever you are, you did a bloody fantastic piece of work here. It's a crying shame you are not here to reap the praise you deserve.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:07 PM

Thanks for the reviews and the positive posts, all. Let those who are trashing the film and Ledger have their slimy moment. Even Time, in Time-like style, ran a glowing piece on the making of the film...then half-damned the movie for its--lack of humor!

Unlike Loomis, who merely hopes the film will change his life, I expect the film to save my soul.

And, not to be indelicate, there were certainly slobs who throw boogers at the Sistine Chapel before the paint had dried. Bleep them. And groove on pure genius at work.

#1135 Judo chop

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:18 PM

And, not to be indelicate, there were certainly slobs who throw boogers at the Sistine Chapel before the paint had dried. Bleep them. And groove on pure genius at work.

When you toss your boogers at targets set so high, they're bound to fall short of their mark and land back on your face.

I cannot wait to see this film. Tomorrow, hopefully.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 06:44 PM

Those IMBD reviews are clearly informed by bitterness and a desire to shock, but come on guys, dissenting opinions are allowed.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 06:56 PM

Those IMBD reviews are clearly informed by bitterness and a desire to shock, but come on guys, dissenting opinions are allowed.

Hard to respect an opinion when it’s sooo transparent that it is motivated by bitterness and a desire to shock (to satisfy a childish need for attention and a sense of power in creating disturbance, no doubt).

I am certainly not fearful to read an intelligent criticism, if one should ever be leveled at the film. Looking forward to it, in fact.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 07:04 PM

I am not saying that anyone should show any respect to those ghastly reviews, but I sensed an undercurrent in some comments suggesting that there is an objection to any negative review. If that is not the case, fine.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 07:40 PM

When the reviews are as complimentary as they are and for someone to say the film is garbage and that Heath Ledgers performance is terrible, it really is a little childish.

Right you didn't like the film and Burton's vastly overrated vision is your ideal of Batman but rubbish, please grow up.

It's like the bitter Brosnan fan boys that called CR rubbish when their hero had appeared in the stain of the series previously.

I see it all the time, on MI6 a certain member makes jibes at Craig's era yet holds up the Moore era as some Golden age.

Yes it is an opinion but when someone see's a particular film series they enjoyed changed because it was outdated and need a rethink and that series is critically acclaiamed in it's new guise. They get sick of all the praise and have to bite back, some people it's little snipes and its subtle, some people it's full blown like our friends on IMBD.

Some people loved the Burton films for some reason or other and think Nicholson's horribly lazy and hammy effort is the definitive Joker and can't bear to see another actor be universally accliamed and be touted for an Oscar the same way that Craig's plaudits would eventually wind up some Moore / Brosnan fans who got sick of hearing how good he was.

CR made Bond credible again after Brozzer had reduced it to a joke but Moore and more than done the damage with his Carry On style version.

Fans of his film get very irked that no one looks at MR or VTAK in the same light as CR.

Batman 89 was acclaimed when it came out but many people saw it for what it was years later, it has no structure and it's title character seems unremarkable in the presence of the colourful villain.

BB & Dk are films about characters and consequences not collections of action sequences strung together with no sense of structure, the accliam heaped on DK like CR is bound to nark fans of the earlier incarnations.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 07:42 PM

I'm beginning to like the idea of this film. It sounds rather good.