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[hcmv007]

Personally, I do not think Brees is worth the 60 mill the Saints are paying him over 6 years. I am very concerned about his shoulder, but this leads me to believd the Saints will not take Leinert, something I have thought them to do for a while now. My guess is Paul Pinnegar in the 3rd or 4th rd. Trade? Maybe not, here's why. Mario Williams is the BEST defensive player in the draft. IF he is Saints guy, they want to trade w/ Tennessee or the Jets ONLY. Since neither team would want to give up a pick (2nd or 3rd), since those teams need all the help they can get. If the Saints choice is D'Brickashaw Ferguson, then I would just stay pat. Trade options are limited, but if they get an offer ala what they did to draft Ricky Williams (not likely gonna happen), then they would not care.

I do think Brees is a good QB and this is a good move by the Saints, don't get me wrong.

[Tarl_Cabot]

"Personally, I do not think Brees is worth the 60 mill the Saints are paying him over 6 years"

I think that's a fair sum for him; he's still not quite the highest paid guy but teams always have to over pay a little to attract players from other teams and it is New Orleans.

[hcmv007]

"Personally, I do not think Brees is worth the 60 mill the Saints are paying him over 6 years"

I think that's a fair sum for him; he's still not quite the highest paid guy but teams always have to over pay a little to attract players from other teams and it is New Orleans.

Which means he'll never play a game!


Even a not quite healthy Brees is a LOT better than a healthy Aaron Brooks.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I have to get used to a new Bond and a new Quarterback? Sheesh...

[The Dove]

lol... I'll have to get used to a new Bond (which I've pretty much already have), a new offensive coordinator, and a very real chance of having a problematic receiver, T.O. joining the Broncos!! (that is NOT as easy to swallow!!)

[Tarl_Cabot]

lol... I'll have to get used to a new Bond (which I've pretty much already have), a new offensive coordinator, and a very real chance of having a problematic receiver, T.O. joining the Broncos!! (that is NOT as easy to swallow!!)

Yeah, T.O. is a pain but in 2004 he did score 14 TDS in a shortened season...there is upside to be had with him as well.


Hey Dove, it looks like Vince Young could end up in Oakland.

[The Dove]

Hmmm interesting.. I guess Vince Young would be a good choice for Oakland (although the Raiders have a lot more problems than just the QB position!!)

And I won't start panicking yet as far as T.O. goes.. The Chiefs, Cowboys, and Dolphins are also interested in Terrell Owens. If he ends up going to the Cowboys, maybe Denver should go after Keyshawn Johnson (whom was just cut by Dallas).

[hcmv007]

I think TO will end up in Dallas-knowing Nick Saban like I do, he does not want another trouble player in that locker room. I'm not ruling Denver out for him, either.

Young could end up in Oakland, IF the Saints choose not to take Leinert, but the Titans-well Jeff Fisher-may take Young OVER Leinert, leaving Leinert available for the Raiders, if the Jets don't take him first.

Edited by hcmv007, 15 March 2006 - 08:56 PM.

[Johnboy007]

T.O. ...

See ya!

[Tarl_Cabot]

The Name is Rivers...Philip Rivers!

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[hcmv007]

Prospect time!

Quarterback

1. Matt Leinart, USC
2. Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
3. Vince Young, Texas
4. Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson
5. Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green
Sleeper: Barrick Neely, Texas State
Player to watch: Paul Pinnegar, Fresno State


Running Back

1. Reggie Bush, USC
2. DeAngelo Williams, Memphis
3. LenDale White-USC
4. Laurence Maroney, Minnesota
5. Maurice Drew, UCLA
Sleeper: Jerious Norwood, Miss St
Player to watch: Joseph Addai, LSU

Wide Recievers:

1. Chad Jackson, Florida
2. Santonio Holmes, Ohio State
3. Demetrius Williams, Oregon
4. Sinorice Moss, Miami
5. Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame
Sleeper: Martin Nance, Miami Ohio
Player to watch: Derek Hagan

Tight End:

1. Vernon Davis, Maryland
2. Marcedes Lewis, UCLA
3. Leonard Pope, Georgia
4. Joel Klopfenstein, Colorado
5. Anthony Fasano, Notre Dame
Sleeper: Tony Shefler
Player to watch: Dominique Byrd, USC

Tackle:

1. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
2. Winston Justice, USC
3. Marcus McNeill, Auburn
4. Andrew Whitworth, LSU
5. Eric Winston, Miami
Sleeper: Paul McQuistan, Weber State
Player to watch: Jonathan Scott, Texas

Guard: Note true guards here, not OT playing or projected to be guards

1. Fred Matua, USC
2. Kevin Booth, Cornell
3. Rob Sims, Ohio State
4. Troy Redick, Auburn
5. Mark Setterstrom, Minnesota
Other prospects: Max Jean Giles, Georgia; Davin Joseph Oklahoma; and Duece Lutui, USC are projected as the top 3 guards, but played OT in college

Center:

1. Nick Mangold, Ohio State
2. Mike Degorey, Florida
3. Pat Ross, Boston College
4. Marvin Phillip, California
5. Will Montgomery, Virginia Tech
Sleeper: Pascal Matla, Eastern Illinois
Player to watch: Donovan Raiola, Wisconson


Those are my top offensive players, based on 40 times, personal workouts, etc. It is a guide until I do my fiinal list in the next 3 weeks. Stay tuned for my defense on FRI. Note, my final list will include ht, wt, 40 times as well.

[The Dove]

How ironic is this... A day after TO is cut loose from the Eagles, his former QB in San Francisco, Jeff Garcia is close to signing a deal to be McNabb's backup in Philly?!!

[Seannery]

There are some reports now that T.O. is all but signed up to Dallas for 3 years--though not totally verified yet. It almost certainly seems it will be Dallas now--Parcells is going all out to win one more Super Bowl before he retires. He could have a shot with T.O.--if the obnoxious one doesn't implode.

[hcmv007]

Defense

Defensive End

1. Mario Williams, NC State
2. Tamba Hali, Penn State
3. Darryl Tapp, Virginia Tech
4. Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College
5. Elvis Dumerville, Louisville
Sleeper: Jason Hatcher, Grambling
Player to watch: Frostee Rucker, USC

Defensive Tackle

1. Haloti Ngata, Oregon
2. Jonathan Lewis, Virginia Tech
3. Gabe Watson, Michigan
4. Claude Wroten, LSU
5. Broderick Buntly, Florida State
Sleeper: Jeff Littlejohn, Mid Tenn St
Player to watch: Kyle Williams, LSU

Outside Line Backer

1. AJ Hawk, Ohio State
2. Chad Greenway, Iowa
3. DeMeco Ryans, Alabama
4. Ernie Sims, Florida State
5. Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State
Sleeper: Terna Nande, Miami Ohio
Player to watch: Omar Gaither, Tennessee

Middle Line Backer

1. Abdul Hodge, Iowa
2. Gerris Wilkinson, Georgia Tech
3. Tim Dobbins, Iowa St
4. Dale Robinson, Arizona State
5. D'Owell Jackson, Maryland
Sleeper: Mike Mohoric, New Mexico
Player to watch: Fred Roach, Alabama

Cornerbacks

1. Ashton Youboty, Ohio State
2. Tye Hill, Clemson
3. Antonio Cromartie, Florida St
4. Jimmy Williams, Virginia Tech
5. Johnathan Joseph, South Carolina
Sleeper: Danieal Manning, Abilene Christian
Player to watch: Allen Zemaitis, Penn State


Free Safety

1. Ko Simpson, South Carolina
2. Greg Blue, Georgia
3. Pat Watkins, Florida St
4. Jason Allan, Tennessee
5. Nate Salley, Ohio State
Sleeper: Antoine Bethea, Howard
Player to watch: Dwayne Slay, Texas Tech

Strong Safety

1. Michael Huff, Texas
2. Darnell Bung, USC
3. Daniel Bullocks, Nebraska
4. Donte Whitner, Ohio State
5. Bernard Pollard, Purdue
Sleeper: Josh Powell, San Jose State
Player to watch: Kelvin Robinson, Ole Miss

There's my defense. Final draft list in less than 3 wks!

[hcmv007]

Wild weekend!

TO is a Cowboy; Ramsey is a Jet, for a late round pick; Packers are courting Vinateri, and signed Ryan Pickett over the weekend.

Very interesting, don't ya'll think?

[Tarl_Cabot]

http://www.sportslin...story/9318377/1

I think T.O. will help the Cowboys. They have a decent RB, a veteren QB and a defense in progress...and Bill Parcels.

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Everybody heard the latest? Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to step down.

[The Dove]

Yeah I'm not totaly surprised by his announcement of resignation.. After being in a veritable hell for two weeks, trying to get that deal done with NFL owners and the Players union on the new CBA, that would be considered the crowning achievement of his tenure as NFL Commissioner...No wonder he needs a break!!

[hcmv007]

Everybody heard the latest? Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to step down.

Yeah I'm not totaly surprised by his announcement of resignation.. After being in a veritable hell for two weeks, trying to get that deal done with NFL owners and the Players union on the new CBA, that would be considered the crowning achievement of his tenure as NFL Commissioner...No wonder he needs a break!!

I would be more than happy to step in . I'm just waiting for them to call...

[The Dove]

Well some more interesting free agent moves reported today:

Adam Vinatieri ( the long time Patriot's kicker) has signed with the Colts and its quite possible that former Colts kicker, Mike Vanderjact (the liquored up, idiot kicker!!) could very well become a Patriot, although they are looking at Paul Edinger at the moment.

Also, former Broncos, Dolphins, and Buccaneers QB Brian Griese signed a five year deal with the Chicago Bears to back up Rex Grossman. With how easily Grossman gets injured, Griese is a good back up plan for them. Kyle Orton, still isn't quite there yet.

[hcmv007]

John Abraham is a Falcon after a 3 way trade, involving Denver. Atlanta and Denver swap picks, the Falcons give the Jets the 29th pick in the Draft for Abraham. Atlanta also gets mid round picks both this year and next year. Looks like the Flacons will have the best pair of book ends in the NFL as Abraham teams up w/ Patrick Kearney. Bad news for the NFC South.

[The Dove]

So its now official: Aaron Brooks is now an Oakland Raider and Kerry Collins is now out on the market.

Lots of interesting changes so far in free agency, especially in the AFC West eh Tarl?!

Lets see:

Kansas City: New coach in Herm Edwards.. might actually work out okay for them.


Denver: Lost Gary Kubiak to the Houston Texans, replaced with a former Bronco coach, Mike Himerdinger.. Lost Trevor Price and Mike Anderson to Baltimore, and Jeb Putzier to the Texans.. We are currently vying for Eric Moulds' services as another veteran wide receiver( as well as 8 other teams!), and he is very interested in the Broncos.

San Diego: Lost Drew Brees to New Orleans.. Could Philip Rivers be the next great Phil at QB, after Phil Simms??

And of course, the Raiders: Art Shell returns to coach, after no one else was attracted to the job offer! Can he recapture his coaching magic after being away for so long? or will he find out just like Joe Gibbs in Washington that its not as easy as it might seem? And after failing to land Daunte Culpepper, they sign Aaron Brooks.. I have my doubts about how good this team will be next year.

[hcmv007]

Vanderjagt is a Cowboy-bad news Boys fans-he likes to scope babes before he kicks potential game winning filed goals-so keep your cheerleaders away from him AT ALL COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oakland is going to the Super Bowl. Why? B/c former Saint Aaron Brooks is their QB. And he was SOOO AWESOME as the Saints QB! He'll do wonders for Oakland!

Keyshawn Johnson is a Panther. Confirms my thoughts already for them in the draft.

Eric Moulds is the hottest player on the market, as the disgriuntled former Bill WR tests the trade market. Bills are idiots if they don't get a 1st rd pick for this guy.

[ThunderhearT]

im a little upset that TO is with the cowboys...but hopefully Parcells will settle him down

and were(cowboys) are getting that one guy fro mthe gets...he is supposed to be good. the new kicker(cant spell his name LOL) will be good for us as well.

sorry...big cowboys fan

my predictions...... Giants and the Redskins will be dominating this upcoming year....i may be off but its waaay to early to tell neway

GO COWBOYS

[Qwerty]

Welcome to CBn, ThunderhearT.

[hcmv007]

Mock draft soon to come. KIper released his list-too many Corners being taken in the first rd.

It looks like Eric Moulds is a Texan. Qwerty, I hate to say it, but I do not have much faith in the Bills for next year. Hopefully they will prove me wrong.

Just 26 days to the draft!

[hcmv007]

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The Bengals picked up a run stopper in free agent Sam Adams, just the area they needed to improve on.

Now we need to pick up some offensive line help in the draft. OSU center Nick Mangold is one possiblity to replace aging and oft-injured center Rich Braham among others. I'm already getting excited about the new season.

[hcmv007]

Eric Moulds now officially a Texan

Charges against Daunte Culpepper dropped in the Love Boat Scandal. Wished I could have been there !


My next Mock Draft will be the week of the Draft. Free Agency has thrown me a few curves. I hope to do a complete SECOND Round as well. I expect a lot of draft day trades, as I doubt anything will happen now until the draft regarding trades.

[BondReader 007]

The Bengals picked up a run stopper in free agent Sam Adams, just the area they needed to improve on.

Now we need to pick up some offensive line help in the draft. OSU center Nick Mangold is one possiblity to replace aging and oft-injured center Rich Braham among others. I'm already getting excited about the new season.

He's a good player. I know the Cardinals have him pretty high on their draft list. Lets face it, they need to assemble an offensive line pronto. It's not something they can allow to slowly "develope."