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[Johnboy007]

Actually, SW:RotS could get the PG-13 rating just because of Anakin's and Obi Wan's little dissagreement. While on the subject of that, I heard it will be the best scene in the entire series.

I imagine the overall dark and brooding tone of this movie may also push the rating censors to bump this up to the PG-13 rating too.

Funny, how the acryonym is ROTS.

[Qwerty]

Actually, SW:RotS could get the PG-13 rating just because of Anakin's and Obi Wan's little dissagreement. While on the subject of that, I heard it will be the best scene in the entire series.

Funny, how the acryonym is ROTS.

Err, perhaps a sign of things to come?

ROTS: It better describes Star Wars: The Phantom Menace.

[zencat]

It's a shame Lucas hasn't better explained exactly what the Sith are in parts I & II. I think the Sith are mentioned once in TPM ("This could be the key to unlocking the mystery of the Sith"), I don't think they're mentioned at all in AOTC. But maybe he's saving it all for ROTS (ah, my first time typing that). Of course, Star Wars nuts know all about the backstory of the Sith (there's a whole "Sith Era" graphic novel from Dark Horse, I believe), but in the world of the films alone, "Sith" is just a word.

Athena and I are heading out to the last day at the Con. I'm going to wear my new Revenge of the Sith t-shirt like a fanboy nerd.

BTW, there is a bit of Bond stuff to report from the Con. Athena will be posting up a main page report sometime next week.

[Brix Bond]

I can't imagine Episode III will redeem the series as we've seen a pattern of style over substance in the last two and I think it's set to continue. I watched Episode IV yesterday and the one thing that sets it apart from the modern entries is that it's fun.

What George has tried to do is make it 'spectacular' through CGI and fights and so on but what really made the original Star Wars was the cast and the characters. The recent film are devoid of both and so the films feel rather flat.

That combined with the stellar expections from the fans and this has the potential to be a huge, miserable flop.

[Janus Assassin]

It has to be over 2 hours, because the fight alone with Obi-Wan and Anakin I heard will be the longest fight scene in movie history. The Clone Wars are still going on, we probably will see the construction of the Death Star. There is alot of thing to connect and it has to be over 2 hours. And back to the Box office. It will be a high grossing movie. Just because the first 2 didn't have grand results doesn't mean people haven't seen it and I know people will see Ep 3 to see how it will connect the old films with the new ones. Revenge of the Sith is an OK title. But Rise of the Empire will fit the movie better because we probably will see the rise of the Imperial empire.

[Qwerty]

It has to be over 2 hours, because the fight alone with Obi-Wan and Anakin I heard will be the longest fight scene in movie history. The Clone Wars are still going on, we probably will see the construction of the Death Star. There is alot of thing to connect and it has to be over 2 hours.

I'm hoping and this sounds like it will esily be the best of the three prequels. That long of a fight scene?! Didn't hear that before, but that sounds pretty cool if they do it right. The things I'm looking forward to most are Anakin's change from good to evil, and the devlopment of the Empire. Not looking forward to Hayden again.

[Janus Assassin]

I heard the lighsaber fight scene between Anakin and Obi Wan is about 15 minutes long.

[Qwerty]

Hmm, well that's really not too long when you take into account other fights just in this series. The battle finales in Return of the Jedi and The Phantom Menace for example.

[Johnboy007]

I'm wondering if it's the longest continous fight scene in movie history. True, there are many long scenes in Star Wars, but they're always broken up, and mixed with eachother.

Really, there isn't a whole lot they can do to develop the Galactic Empire. The army was formed in AOTC, and the Republic isn't officially dissolved until ANH.

[Qwerty]

Really, there isn't a whole lot they can do to develop the Galactic Empire. The army was formed in AOTC, and the Republic isn't officially dissolved until ANH.

True, but I like how they leave it off at the end of AOTC with Dooku and the others. That's what I want to see, exactly how they pick it up from there.

[Johnboy007]

Really, there isn't a whole lot they can do to develop the Galactic Empire.  The army was formed in AOTC, and the Republic isn't officially dissolved until ANH.

True, but I like how they leave it off at the end of AOTC with Dooku and the others. That's what I want to see, exactly how they pick it up from there.

I think there is supposed to be a three year time lapse, which leaves me to wonder if Luke and Leia were conceived in that time period, and will just kind of show up in ROTS.

[Harmsway]

It has to be over 2 hours, because the fight alone with Obi-Wan and Anakin I heard will be the longest fight scene in movie history.

First off, it's not the longest fight scene in movie history, just the longest duel, and no, it really doesn't have to be over 2 hrs (heavy spoilers ahead):

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Dooku dies within the first ten minutes during a big space battle of the Clone Wars. The whole Clone Wars thing doesn't take long to resolve. And the dispersement of the children takes place in the last 10 minutes. So that leaves 1hr 40 minutes for the following: 1) General Grievous / Obi-Wan duel and the battle on Kashhyyk (wookie homeworld) 2) The Anakin turns scene (he's forced to make a choice instead of a slow rogression) 3) The Jedi slaughter with Windu's death by Anakins hand and Sidious/Yoda confrontation 4) The duel 5) Various dialogue scenes

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Seems like plenty of time to me as long as there's no dead weight and the character progressions are woven into the major plot occurances.

[Qwerty]

[quote name='Johnboy007' date='25 July 2004 - 16:55'] [quote name='Qwerty' date='25 July 2004 - 16:53'] [quote name='Johnboy007' date='25 July 2004 - 16:51'] Really, there isn't a whole lot they can do to develop the Galactic Empire.

[Janus Assassin]

I cant wait for Ep III to come out. I am not a big Star Wars person, but I do wanna see how it sets everything up.

[Gabe Vieira]

I cant wait for Ep III to come out. I am not a big Star Wars person, but I do wanna see how it sets everything up.

Well, the thing is that everybody knows what HAS to happen, it's just a matter of HOW it will happen.

[Qwerty]

I'm wondering if it's the longest continous fight scene in movie history.  True, there are many long scenes in Star Wars, but they're always broken up, and mixed with eachother.

I think their very effective that way. Not sure if the audience might easily get bored with just seeing one long fight sequence with no breathes into something else, or no breaks. It worked very well when Luke fought Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi and when Obi-Wan fought Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace.

[Johnboy007]

I think their very effective that way. Not sure if the audience might easily get bored with just seeing one long fight sequence with no breathes into something else, or no breaks. It worked very well when Luke fought Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi and when Obi-Wan fought Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace.

They're also helped by dialog. The banter about betraying Leia. "Striking me down will make me more possible than you can imagine". "Join the dark side" And other various lines made those scenes a little more effective, and would certainly aide in a lightsaber battle of the magnitude (Had to get that in there ) that is rumored.

[Qwerty]

I think their very effective that way. Not sure if the audience might easily get bored with just seeing one long fight sequence with no breathes into something else, or no breaks. It worked very well when Luke fought Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi and when Obi-Wan fought Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace.

They're also helped by dialog. The banter about betraying Leia. "Striking me down will make me more possible than you can imagine". "Join the dark side" And other various lines made those scenes a little more effective, and would certainly aide in a lightsaber battle of the magnitude (Had to get that in there ) that is rumored.

Oh yes! That in turn seperates the battles I mentioned in ROTJ and TPM. ROTJ had all of those great lines sprinkled in there that helped the fight. TPM was a tad too "quiet" for my tastes.

(Had to get that in there )

[Johnboy007]

TPM was a tad too "quiet" for my tastes.

I thought it made that sequence more effective. Darth Maul was already pretty intimidating, and didn't need lines to make more diabolical and evil. And it made the death of Qui Gon a little more poignant with the absence of a "Ha, I killed your master!"

[Qwerty]

TPM was a tad too "quiet" for my tastes.

I thought it made that sequence more effective. Darth Maul was already pretty intimidating, and didn't need lines to make more diabolical and evil. And it made the death of Qui Gon a little more poignant with the absence of a "Ha, I killed your master!"

The best scene about that scene was the opening of it, with the music cues. I never got into Darth Maul as a villain though. No emotion or character at all to him, just didn't seem to make the fight spectacular.

[freemo]

Great title.

Looking forward to it. Maybe it's because I'm not that big a fan and my expectations aren't as high as others, but I've quite liked the prequels so far.

[Tarl_Cabot]

It's a shame Lucas hasn't better explained exactly what the Sith are in parts I & II. I think the Sith are mentioned once in TPM ("This could be the key to unlocking the mystery of the Sith"), I don't think they're mentioned at all in AOTC. But maybe he's saving it all for ROTS (ah, my first time typing that). Of course, Star Wars nuts know all about the backstory of the Sith (there's a whole "Sith Era" graphic novel from Dark Horse, I believe), but in the world of the films alone, "Sith" is just a word.

Athena and I are heading out to the last day at the Con. I'm going to wear my new Revenge of the Sith t-shirt like a fanboy nerd.

BTW, there is a bit of Bond stuff to report from the Con. Athena will be posting up a main page report sometime next week.

Here's a simple answer:The Sith are basically the opposite of The Jedi. They channel the dark side of the force, hence they are evil. based on available information from the films(I don't read SW books) I suppose the Jedi at one time conquered the Sith and so The Revenge of the Sith will be the killing the of the Jedi order and taking of control of the galaxy by way of creating the Empire.

I'm not a fan of the first two prequels but this one excites me...I just love The Emperor scenes in 'Jedi' so this may be the one prequel that can stand aside the classic trilogy.

[Qwerty]

I'm not a fan of the first two prequels but this one excites me...I just love The Emperor scenes in 'Jedi' so this may be the one prequel that can stand aside the classic trilogy.

You too Tarl? Some of the coolest parts of the movie. I'm really looking forward to see how good a job the connection is made from these prequels to the original trilogy, especially regarding the emperor scenes.

[Tarl_Cabot]

One interesting thing I read from a George Lucas interview was his description of the flawed and dysfunctional nature of the Sith. They are "cancerous by nature". You'll recall Vader offered Luke a deal:"Join me and we can rule the galaxy as father and son". He also meant "But first we need to kill the emperor". When Luke beats Vader the Emperor tells him to kill his father and take his place at my side. So much for loyalty!

Dooku also conspired to kill the Palpatine with Obi-wan's help...

Hey,when you're tired and you can't sleep CBN is a great place to be to geek out!

[Tarl_Cabot]

I'm not a fan of the first two prequels but this one excites me...I just love The Emperor scenes in 'Jedi' so this may be the one prequel that can stand aside the classic trilogy.

You too Tarl? Some of the coolest parts of the movie. I'm really looking forward to see how good a job the connection is made from these prequels to the original trilogy, especially regarding the emperor scenes.

He's basically an intergalactic Blofeld so of course I like his character!

[Qwerty]

Dooku also conspired to kill the Palpatine with Obi-wan's help...

Hey,when you're tired and you can't sleep CBN is a great place to be to geek out!

Too much to find out before the movie!

And I am not a Star Wars geek!

[Tarl_Cabot]

I'm not a big SW geek either but I'm of the generation that grew up with this saga. I was 7 years old when SW came out...I never owned any toys or merchandise from SW. I must have been the only kid who didn't have an action figure or model ship. All my friends had them so I borrowed them and saved pops a lot of money!

[Tarl_Cabot]

hey Zen, check this out:

http://cgi.theforce....he_darkside.jpg

[Qwerty]

I'm not a big SW geek either but I'm of the generation that grew up with this saga. I was 7 years old when SW came out...I never owned any toys or merchandise from SW. I must have been the only kid who didn't have an action figure or model ship. All my friends had them so I borrowed them and saved pops a lot of money!

I think it was 1996 or so when Star Wars merchandise just exploded around here. It seemed you had to have one of the tiny model ships of action figures to be cool.

[Johnboy007]

I think it was 1996 or so when Star Wars merchandise just exploded around here. It seemed you had to have one of the tiny model ships of action figures to be cool.

I remember owning a lot of the action figures and Micro-Machines they released then.

I guess the worst (as in geekiest) Star Wars merchandise my family owns is a plastic Darth Vader, and Stormtrooper mask we got at some store in SF years ago.